LAS VEGAS - All seems to have simmered down with the White Sox and the story that wasn't a story on Sunday night, in which the Dayton Daily News reported Jermaine Dye to Cincinnati for pitcher Homer Bailey was a done deal.
In talking to scouts and major-league sources this morning, as Sox general manager Ken Williams had been saying the last five hours, the two teams hadn't spoken since just before Thanksgiving, and it wasn't necessarily just talks about Dye.
Williams and Reds GM Walt Jocketty are no strangers to speaking often, as well as dealing, so the fact that they had discussions throughout November isn't a real shock.
What everyone is waiting to see, however, is are the Sox in a youth movement, as they are claiming, or are they in fact also using the youth movement as a cover to hide behind the fact that they are also in salary dump mode? Trading Nick Swisher and Javier Vazquez doesn't answer that, considering neither could be counted on for October baseball.
Sending Dye out would shed more light on the direction of the franchise, though, especially if it was for an underachieving player like a Bailey.
OTHER WINTER MEETINGS WHISPERS
-- Jaime Torres, the agent for Dayan Viciedo, as well as Alexei Ramirez and Jose Contreras, found out on Monday that the paperwork for Viciedo's visa is finished and he should have the 19-year-old Cuban defector in Chicago by the end of this week to sign his contract.
Torres again insisted that if Viciedo does not make the club out of spring training, expect a call-up before the All-Star Game because "this kid is something special.''
-- Torres wasn't alone in anticipating a quick jump by a client, as agent Tom O'Connell - who represents newly acquired catching prospect Tyler Flowers - reiterated what Williams was stating last week on the high ceiling Flowers has.
Like Torres, O'Connell said he would not be surprised to see Flowers on the South Side this season because of his raw power, as well as his ability to not only catch, but also play first base.
-- Manager Ozzie Guillen has arrived into town Monday afternoon, but his meeting with the media has been bumped back to Tuesday. Williams, however, will have his daily session with the media today at 5 p.m. PST.