This use to be my favorite show, Jon and Kate were always on in my house, but ever since they have grown apart, just doesn't seem right to watch, I'm here to tell you I did see this coming, it's just too bad for those kids!

Did anyone notice the children's faces with Kate and her body guard during their vacation in the Carolina's. They all looked so sad and pitiful except for the one Maddy was holding. I am sure the vacation was very structured like the rest of their lives are. POOR little children they are the ones who are suffering. Someone please step in for the kids. They need a break from their mother who is making everyone miserable all for the sake of fame, she sold her family out. I am so sad.

JUST DON'T WATCH KATE AND JON PLUS 8. They are both living off their children. And now Jon says in the June 2 program....that they will be appearing apart at times.(Yeah, because they are apart.) Kate is a shrew...and Jon a twit. When many Americans are struggling to put food on the table it is a bit of a turn off that they can take a child on a separate vacation....and even get the 8 yr old a pedicure and a manicure. This is not the American dream
family. The parents are vultures.

I think Jon and Kate will eventually work things out. Surely it will take time, but the needs of their children come first and I think they are very much aware of that. They both love their kids and they will do the best thing for the family.

You think Kate will take the offer from Larry Flint?

Yes, I agree with the one writer who said that Kate is materialistinc and only after the $$$$. She is supposedly a Christain and spoke while at our church; She seemed biter and hardened,,,and now combined with the materialism she seeks, she sure doesn't apply Christian principles.

Jon and Kate should start socking away money for all the therapy their children wil be needing.

I used to watch a little, then stopped...but with nothing else on the other night, I did watch it....so when did all this start?

Neither one of them will probably marry again, if they divorce...how many men/women do you know, that would walk into 8 kids?

For me the moral is, don't take fertilization drugs!

Turn off the boob tube and get a life!!

It was very uncomfortable watching this show Monday night. It's obvious these 2 people are going in opposite directions. Sad, with 8 children involved. Found it funny that the kids on more than 1 occasion called Kate by the baby sitters name. Obviously, they see the sitter/live in, that Kate claims "doesn't exist".
Her problem, she needs to stay home more. They don't need the $$, but to fit Kate's lifestyle, they do. She has been seduced by $$ and her new found fame. She really believes she is a movie star. Enough said. My wife and I will no longer watch this train wreck of a show, too painful to see.

It was very uncomfortable watching this show Monday night. It's obvious these 2 people are going in opposite directions. Sad, with 8 children involved. Found it funny that the kids on more than 1 occasion called Kate by the baby sitters name. Obviously, they see the sitter/live in, that Kate claims "doesn't exist".
Her problem, she needs to stay home more. They don't need the $$, but to fit Kate's lifestyle, they do. She has been seduced by $$ and her new found fame. She really believes she is a movie star. Enough said. My wife and I will no longer watch this train wreck of a show, too painful to see.

Kate has changed from a wife and mother to a business woman and the doting aunt. She wants kudos for doing her 'job'. Jon hasn't really changed - she has. And she expects him to suck up to her just like everyone else and resents him when he doesn't.

...They're toast.

Hey tabloid fans, just think about the future photos of Jon openly dating some big busted blonde bimbo, Kate coming down the courthouse steps, Maddy being busted for cocaine during a traffic stop, Hannah comes out, Joel's first bar brawl, the tv movie trailers ..... they can profit from this for years!

ok first of all i think this is bull crap ok!!! people need to STOP talking about there life ... because they only know .... i love this show... and i think that peopple who disagreee are retarted i love this show...yes kate does tell jon to do alot... but thats going to happend with every relationship..... do u think that this wrong/???

Kate has and will always be in it for the fame and money....she was the only one calling attention to the papparazi if you looked closely in the store parking lot it was her talking about them not the kids...she puts it in their heads...it was her telling everyone she could about them at the birthday party...they have the huge yard at the house why did they have to go out in public for the party...they always had it at the house before...kind of looking for more attention Kate?? She always had to had her way or the highway..how many times in public did she yell and scream like a big baby if Jon did not do everything excatly the way she wanted. He is an adult..and father who does love his kids. No Jon is not perfect...but at least he is not staving for attention like Kate...poor Kate she had such a bad life growing up...did you ever listen to how many times she complains about that...wonder why you never see her family around?? Did she really have to have six kids at once...or did Jon say okay to one more and suddenly they have six?? She's the smart one..or at least that is what she implys everytime she corrects him...I am really suprised they lasted this long..well Kate you always said he was going to leave...did you get what you wanted...more drama..more attention...you just have to feel so sorry for the kids...they didn't ask for any of this. Would it have killed them to take one year off just to re-group and get the family on solid ground..no that would mean Kate would have had to stayed home and work..instead of running around saying how famous and smart she is..

Is it true that Kate's "bodyguard/security guy when she travels is one of the Chippendale dancers?

why are you breaking up you better not jon cause you will have alot child support to pay

What is the differnece between a camera crew and paparazi? A camera crew pays you for your picture. Paparazi doesn't.

I must admit I love the show. It's fun to see how multiples interract with each other. I totally think Kate has emasculated Jon but I don't think that's an excuse for him to "cheat." And cheating isn't just sleeping with someone else, there are all kinds of ways. They should have addressed this issue with their marriage before it got this far. As for the show last night, it definitely seems like they're past the point of no return. I hope they can get along for the sake of the kids, but I have a feeling Jon will be able to pull that off better than Kate will!

I have yet to understand why Kate feels she needs security when she travels alone. LOVED the apology though when Kate honestly admits she doesn't even like her fans. Now that was refreshing. Hope all those adoring fans caught that segment.

Things I learned this past weekend- when the greedy Gimme family travels they don't mingle with the common people in places like hotels. They must have secluded accommodations where they can rest and enjoy themselves far away from the crowds. The Gimme family needs to always be in box or floor seats at events. Kate's "job" is to sell the family not care for her children. No matter how TLC wants to show this dysfunctional clan it's definitely no longer a "normal" family even removing the question of marital indiscretion on both sides. This family has gone from reality to revulsion. Crash and burn Gimmes because I have watched my last episode.

this is a publicity stunt! everything you see on tv is not real.

It's pathetic that this show (and others like it) pass for entertainment these days. More proof that you'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Sad ... sad ... and more sad!!!! This whole situation is just plain and simply sad :( I happened upon the show a few months ago and have been recording it ever since. In the beginning, this was a "real" family. Only difference is, they had lots more kids than most. Now the show seems to be all different. Kate is more worried about her appearance ... how her hair and makeup look, what clothes she's wearing. Jon's no different either. They both have the faux tans and teeth whitening going on, taking away the "reality" that was so enticing at the beginning, when they could have very well been any ordinary Joe's next door neighbor.

I can certainly understand why they initially agreed to do the Show. They had 8 kids for goodness sakes and it takes oodles of money to raise those 8 kids!!!! They used to go to Church every week ... do they still do that??? Kate used to have Bible versus hanging all over the house ... is she still doing that??? IMHO, they've let "fame" take over and pushed the Good Lord out the door at the same time. If they don't let Him back in, they won't be able to save their marriage and their kids will have a much different life than they would have ... yes, it all makes me so very sad :(

And what was up with Jon's little sports car????????? He doesn't want the fame that inevitably came w/the show, but I imagine he wouldn't so willingly hand back all of his toys it brought him!!!!

I wish Kate would just let Jon go back to work like before and I wish she would go back to being a full time Mom like she was before ... the kind of Mom whose hair isn't always perfect, whose makeup isn't always just so so, who isn't wearing "heels" during the middle of the day!!!! A regular Mom ... the kind every kid needs and deserves!!!!! If they'd just go back to doing what they were doing, living the way they were living, then I imagine they would both be much happier and they could save their marriage. They'd still have themselves a show too cuz they would be back to being more like "normal reality," just with a few more kids than most folks have, which is what most of the people who watched fell in love with!!!

Jon and Kate ... wisen up my friends and remember why you initially agreed to become "Jon and Kate Plus Eight!!!!" It's never too late, and I pray for healing where the 2 of you are concerned.

The best thing that can happen? We stop watching - and then the networks stop feeding us an endless diet of these increasingly mind-numbing reality shows. Come on..."Toddlers and Tiaras"? Is there no end to the limits we will travel to in order to exploit our children? It's time to just say no to reality TV and make the networks WRITE something decent for us to watch.

Here's a clue - dump A&E and TLC and turn on Discovery and History. At least their reality-type shows have more value than watching as parents parade their makeup-laden five-year-olds across the stage.

Wake up, people...

I wonder which one(s)of the 8 will end up in rehab. I'm sure Jon and Kate will have it filmed.

I noticed a couple of things during last night's episode. 1) their body language is such that they no longer respect one another. they were seated away from each other not toward one another as in previous interviews; 2) Although Jon admitted to "bad judgement", Kate only stated that it made her angry that people were insinuating she had an affair with her bodyguard - she never admitted to any wrong doing; 3) at the party it was pointed out by Kate that the paparazzi were everywhere, but Jon never really acknowledged their presence; and 4) it was good to hear some very pointed questions being asked during the interview but some of their responses lacked sincerity.

Based on last night's episode, they appear to be past the counseling stage and straight to the divorce stage (if they haven't already filed). Neither appear to want to figure out why they are now two very different people or to want to make their relationship work. Not once did either of them say that they were staying because they wanted to work out their differences, they both noted that they are staying because of the children.

Media blitz? Possibly. More like TLC cashing in on something that has been problematic for a long while.

i know this was probably the most anticpated show this past weekend. and yes i did watch last night. and will continue to watch. jon and kate need to know that there are those of us who continue to draw inspiration from them. regardless of their marriage issues, they are a family. they need to remember all these things they have said in the past about being a family and being in this together. do i think they need counseling and church intervention? absolutely. do i think they seriously need a break from TV and us the fans? 100%. it is jon's fault for bringing the pappos into their home like this. and u could see it in Kate's face whenever she observed them in the distance. he knows he has a lot to make up for. i dont believe him when he said he didnt cheat on her. is it for me to judge tho? no, but i do hope they truly remember their vows and get back on track. my own marriage has been far from perfect and at one time i too thought we were headed in the BigD direction. but as long as we know we love each other then its worth fighting for. it seems as if Kate still loves Jon, but him im not sure about anymore, he may have had his last straw.
yes i will continue to watch and root for them.

You wanted the spotlight now you have and dont want it.

You knew what you were getting into before you started.
Kate is a hose B**ch
I would leave her too.

Ain't it always the way, Jon is at fault and Kate is blamesless. Time to turn the channel folks.

the natural order is husband and wife and THEN kids.
god > marriage > children
you focus on the needs of your husband/wife before your children.
do they honestly think the kids would rather have 'things' than have their parents
together and thriving? i heard they are making $75,000 a show. more than most families make in a year.
do they(kate) TRULY NEED any more? money over your marriage? awful.
jon obviously wants to be a normal husband and have a normal job, as ANY man would.
im sure he wants his wife to be home with the children as often as possible as any NORMAL mom would.
and im sure both want to be respected and loved.
i dont believe the kids coming along were the problem. its jon & kate losing sight of whats important... EACH OTHER.

i used to watch....i no longer watch for the simple reason they are imploding and i have no wish to see it...there are allegations of cheating on both sides..don't know if they are true or not...i do know that kate is more drill sergeant than mother and that ain't healthy for anyone....the way jon is treated is disgusting...i can't figure out why he took it this long....and kate comes off to me as a greedy pig....

I keep reading about Jon and his "friend", but what happened to Kate and her "bodyguard?" She has been a witch from the get-go. Always demanding of Jon. I remember one episode where Jon wanted to spend the day playing with the kids in the driveway, taking them on their bikes, etc., and all she did was complain that she wanted him to clean the garage. I have five kids, and it's a handful but I would never put my kids in the public light like she has done to her kids. Nor would I put my private dealings with my husband on national television. The kids have to realize that life isn't all the first class stuff, that they can't always get what they want. They are cute little buggers, but Kate has made it to where they are spoiled little buggers. Jon and Kate are both at fault, her for being such a bossy and uncaring person, and Jon for allowing her to continue doing that and acting that way towards him. I hope for the kids sake things work out one way or another.

What show is Jo watching? Kate is the one gone from the family (although you would never know that from watching the show) for extended periods of time. He was taking care of his mother when the incident happened. He is in his 30's; short of 'mid-life' crisis age. While we watch these people weekly, we don't know them. We see what is feed to us after editing. Kate appears selfish and Jon seems passive. They have said they don't film 24/7 so what is really the truth . . . only they (and the crew). For what it's worth, all the reports, articles, online blogs, etc. is giving TLC and the show the best publicity ever!

What I found sad, as she said over and over for the camera how she has to take care of the birthday party by herself and John just wants the weekend off. Well, when she goes away for a whole month to promote books and has no responbilties with her children except probably a phone call. (what Mom leaves her children that long) then complains she must prepare the party by herself and say's this to the camera.

Who cares??? Jon and Kate were blessed with 8 children. Those of us who are reproductively challenged would give anything to be parents. They took a blessing from God and capitalized on it. Shame on them and anyone who watches!!! The fortune should have been the pure glory of having 8 children. Making money from it is horrible.

The power of television to ruin their lives? I don't think television did that to their relationship. The bottom line is: raising kids is a challenge. Try raising 8 and 6 are the same age. That took it's toll on the relationship and what is not being shown. Kate did her fair share of raising those kids and has done a fabulous job. Is she annoying, a germophobe, an organizing freak? Yes. When you have that many kids, you have to be or you would go nuts. I can recall her having to give 3 or 4 of her kids 3-4 breathing treatments a day in addition to everything else. She's a nurse by profession and all nurses at least the good ones are task oriented. Jon was/ is lucky to have had someone like that in his life. Jon lost himself. He lost his job that first year that the 6 were born, so lucky they had the show to buy the things they needed for those kids and maybe make the mortgage payment. He drives around in that fancy sports car now too. Did anyone see that last night? My husband noticed that. Kate is going to stick with her kids and make sure they have all of their needs met. Jon, I'm not so sure. I'm sure he loves his kids, but he is like a man in his mid-life crisis-who am i? Are my needs being met? I need some attention? Guess what? It is NOT about you, Jon! It's about those kids, all 8 of them that YOU are responsible for. When you have kids, you made a choice to have them and you are responsible for them period! No sympathy for Jon except to tell him Buck up! To Kate, keep up the good work. I could tell that she still loves him and is upset by his behavior and his lack of desire to be involved in raising their family and nurturing their own relationship.

No I will not watch.
This marriage has been over 6 mths ago. Did anyone hear what Kate said last night? She has been dealing with this for the last 6 mths and she is tired. Did you hear Jon say that he "comes over as much as he can to help out". Help out who, these are your children, whether you wanted this life or not, you are now a part of it, so man up (if you can) and take care of your children. I believe an agreement was made between Jon & Kate to try and keep the pending divorce (which I believe is already in the works as it is clear they are not living together) as hush, hush as possible. One might say that this is a private matter between a man and his soon to be ex-wife, but when they chose to make their life so public, privacy went out the window. Sorry you can't have your cake and eat it too. They chose this life for reason of making money, hopefully for the children's education and not their own selfish gain, so they have to deal with the scrunity that comes with putting your life on public display.

Hey Nora:

"dont listen to the idiots that only know how to judge and call names they are ignorants"

if that aint calling the kettle black...

Well most of this mean and heartless comments make me ill who are you guys to judge this family they both are hard working parents just staying home with 8 kids is such a huge job Kate is so organized and good to those kids and they are very happy kids Jon is the type that keeps everything inside and now is releasing it all I hope that they stayed together and continue the show I admire them and they do the best they can for the kids I had 4 so I have an idea of what it is to sacrifice for your kids it was very sad last night and kind of mean of Jon not to help her with the birthday party that was for the kids and the kids alone !!! I wish the best for all of you and dont listen to the idiots that only know how to judge and call names they are ignorants that dont know what they are talking about I am all for you guys good luck and God bless you all

Kate is in it for the money, anyone realize how she was dressed last night compared to other seasons? Wearing a skirt to a 50 degree rainy outside B-Day party? Last season Jon said he did not know if he wanted the series to go on, but Kate wanted to to. And now she goes everywhere to promote HER. she is in it for the money and nothing else.

I THINK THAT THIS SHOW IS A LITTLE OUT OF HAND I THINK WE ALL BELIVE THAT WE WULD LIKE TO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN BUT IF DOING SO PUTS YOU OUT THERE FOR THE HOLE WORL TO WATCH THEN WHY FAMILY LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRIVATE MATTER AND WHEN ITS TELIVISED THEN ITS NOT REALLY A FAMILY ANY LONGER IT IS CIRCUS FOR US ALL TO WATCH. AND I ALSO BELIVE THAT IF YOU HAVE FOUND THE PERSON THAT YOU LOVE AND DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOW IS DESTROYING THAT THEN STOP THE SHOW AND FIX WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE NOT WHAT IS GOIGN TO DISAPEAR ONCE PEOPLE DONT CARE TO WATCH YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND

These two have had problems for a while and failed to address them. I will not say if cheating took place but both need to focus on the children. Listen to one another and seek marital counseling if they want the marriage to be saved. This is the last year for there contract for the show and they need to end it. Jon should have said no to another contract and Kate should have listened to him for a change. For the children's sake I hope they go down the right path.

I used to love watching the show. The kids were so cute and there was a sense of joy and fun in their home. Even though Jon and Kate fought sometimes, you could tell that they really loved their children and were trying to raise them in a loving caring environment. Both parents were involved in the kids day to day lives. They tried to establish family traditions and special days for the children. Kate was into organic cooking and had her kids best interests in mind.
After watching last night's episode you could see that both John and Kate are in their own little worlds and that the children are going to suffer. Kate has changed from being a highly involved mom to a well dressed polished boss who delegates childcare and most other duties to paid employees. Jon seems depressed and in his own little world. Both parents need to snap out of it and stop being so selfish. If they have to get divorced, unfortunately that can happen in life. They can still be wonderful parents, though, if they try. Neither one seems to really be trying. For Kate especially it is all about the money now. They need to get the cameras out of their home for the children's sake. I will not watch this show anymore. It's too sad. I feel so bad for the kids.

Listen up everyone. We live in a culture where the children are coming FIRST.
But think about it...think hard about it. There is NO FAMILY (say it again...F-A-M-I-L-Y) if there is no Jon or Kate together. They'll be a BROKEN family but not one that's conducive for their well being. They need to put EACH other FIRST. Mend the two and all the rest will follow, the marriage, the kids, their lives... it'll all follow suit if they don't put each other,s feelings, needs, wants FIRST.
Throughout the whole show each contnued to say, they'll do this and do that for the kids. You think the kid's will give a rat's behind about this or that birthday party, about this or that event? They'll be HURT if their parents aren't together.
C'mon Jon and Kate...put each other FIRST because after the kid's are gone...it'll still be just the two of you.

This is so fake. I never watched the show, never knew who these people were. Then some "scandalous" photos of John in a car with another woman surface. Then the media blitz. Every newspaper and web search engine had them as breaking news. Puhleeze, where was this before the "affairs". How come I never saw Kate on TV before, but in the 3 weeks leading up to the Season Premire she's on every talk show around. Never saw these folks on US&People in the same week. Time Magazine never cared, now everybody is talking John and Kate. This is all fake and just done for the ratings.

I have watched from the start. These were "christians" and gave talks on the stress of being married and having all these kids. Where's their church leaders? Where are the evangelicals that were suppose to rush in an help them save their marriage before it got to this point.

Shame on the church leaders that haven't been there. As for Dr. Phil....forget about him. He can't do anything but hype himself.

Just too sad. Just goes to show you fame and fortune do not = happiness. I agree with the comments that it was sad to NOT hear Jon or Kate express any love for each other. I mean they just exchanged their vows in that remarriage ceremony in HI. I don't think Kate should have done a 5th season with all the torrid tabloid stuff going around. It's just not fun to watch two bitter people going through a divorce or whatever and the impact that has on 8 defensless children. It's painful. If Kate's still doing it for the $$$, she'll find out how soon the funds and promos and comps will dry up and the show will abruptly be cancelled. Better save the money you're earning now to get through the real REALITY show -- you going back to a nursing job. The fact that there are NO extended family members of either side in the picture is particularly disheartening for them and the children. It's like Jon and Kate Plus 8 has become an adrift island with only them on it. It's time the viewing public vote them all off the island and back to the land of reality. If you think raising 8 kids is expensive on a nursing salary and IT salary, try adding the therapy in addition to regular living expenses that will be needed for 8 kids if you don't end this charade now Kate.

I don't even know who these 2 knuckle heads are supposed to be? Are they famous, oh wait just some more idiot Reality so-called "Stars"!

I watched with sadness last night. The situation with the paraparazzi is the downside of fame and fortune. It has done in more celebrity relationships than anyone can count and I think it is destroying this marriage. Kate views the world in black and white with no grey areas. That is something she brought to the marriage. I'm sure it was appealing in the beginning, for Jon to have someone strong and ready to make the hard decisions. I lived with this type of marriage, as well. But it had its' down side, as the strong personality starts resenting making all those hard decisions but lacks the ability to let some thing go. I only pray that the financial benefit is being put away for the eight children and their college education. As for Jon and Kate, they need a time out. Some one on one and some two on one, sans the 8 would do them the world of good. Hey you two, remember the vacation in Florida and the dates. I know it is hard to do it now because of the cameras 'in your face' but there are private places where you an go for some 'fun' together. I'll come and watch the kids for a week or weekend. You need to get back to the time you enjoyed each other without a crew of witnesses. Shout and get it all out about how you feel. Maybe it is time to end the show, maybe it will not be the solution. Who knows? Seems like everyone else on this page has the answer, including me. You have to search your hearts, not the tabloids or the bank account. I for one, don't think the children will be affected because it is very evident the they are loved by more than Jon and Kate, a whole nation. Time out!

Ok so how much of it is true and how much is a publicity stunt? It looks pretty obvious that their marriage is in trouble...that much I believe to be true. Did they mention if they were separated? It appeared to me that they are. Jon showing up in another car for the party.....Alexis telling him she doesn't want him going away anymore. How about him saying, "well daddy needs to work sometimes". Are they really going to b.s. their children? As painful as it maybe kids needs to know the truth! Especially being that it's better hearing from mom and dad then kids at school or fans of the show. I really feel bad for all involved. They clearly did not know what they were getting themselves into. And now, I feel that even if they end the show it'll never be back to the way it was. Last season, they even renewed their wedding vows?? What was that all about? They went away together a few times and talked about how important it was for them to do that. So, was that a lie or did they know then that things were a mess and were trying to patch it up? I know Kate is quite controlling but Jon knew that when he married her. She also seems like she has to be controlling otherwise he's some what oblivious to what's going on around him (probably only because he can be with her around...he seems to handle things fine when she's not). My opinion....she controlled...he enabled her to do so by not talking to her about it...he'd laugh it off. They should absolutely get counseling and get the kids into it as well if they want any hope for any kind of future as a "together" family. Whatever that means these days.

Kate doesn't care about the children, she cares about Kate. Why would you continue with the show considering where the marriage is. Because Kate wants the fame and fortune that comes with it that's all. Didn't you see her rolling her eyes at the children last night.
I've watches the series from the start, no more. I'm not supporting Kate's vanity any longer. Yes it is time to boycott the show for the kids sake. It's turned in to a soap opera.

I didn't read all the previous comments but I just have a few thoughts.... Jon is just being a normal man at this time. How many husbands are as involved as he has been. He has done everything he was asked, while complaining very little. Now that the children are older, I feel he picked a good time to go out and be Jon w/o the entourage even though some the decisions he made were not the best (which he has admitted). I love to watch this family and I hated to see the tension between them last night. I started watching the show after my son was born a year and a half ago and I've watched it everyday since (I'm wathcing now!). Kate inspires me everyday - if she can do it with 8 I should have no problem with 1. I also wanted my partner to be as envloved and helpful as Jon. Unfortunately, Dads aren't Mom's and they are more than likely not going to as involved. With all that being said, I will continue to watch the show until they decided to stop because I watch mostly for mommy inspiration from Kate. Daddy's don't have to be there but mommy's do and that's the real reality :-(.

I just hope that they really made millions as I read somewhere and can send all their kids to college and have a good life. Even if Kate and Jon should get a divorce (nobody will ever know what's REALLY going on in their marriage) ... as long as they both stay in their kids life ... it can be considered a *happy ending* too.

Joke!!!! This all comes out right before the season premire? Can you say set-up? This was all bogus and done for ratings. You've been duped.

I used to watch the show in the beginning and enjoyed the very first episode of how the Gosslins handled their life as a family of multiples. Unfortunately the one episode turned into a BUSINESS, of exployting childern. I watched last nights episode and was sick to my stomach, seeing one of the little girls say "I wish you would come home" to Jon, while Kate continued to bark about how Jon would not help with the party plans OMG! At the end of the show it was clear to me based on the conversations with Kate present Jon is done. It takes two to make a marriage and two to end one. If Kate is serious about saving their marriage, she should stop her traveling plans to promote her new book deal, fire the "nannies" and TLC, hire a marriage counsler. And Jon grow UP! The 20's are gone. Put the number one focus on what's important here THE FAMILY!!!!

Wow I think many of need to get a life. It is reality tv not your lives,get over it.

The premier episode was awkward. The show has become a slow train wreck for all to see and I can't watch it knowing there are kids on board.

Sympathy, first we need the truth to come out. Right now all we have is rumours and innuendo. Who knows who screwed up first. I believe he wanted to pack it in and she did not listen. She has losted touch with what a family is all about. Poor kids.

ANYONE who says that they would NOT allow someone to come into their home to show the world their lives, and pay them $50,000 per episode is a LIAR! They did this with good intentions, they did this to provide for their kids. Any parent out there would do the same thing! If you have an opportunity to do this, pay off your mortgage, provide college funds for all your kids...where do i sign!! And I agree, I did not believe Jon. Yes, you got married when you were 22, had 8 kids within 6 years after that...SUCK IT UP!! You chose this, you knew who you were marrying, you have a family and responsibilities. There is no going back, that time is gone and look how much better your life is for it!! Regardless of what anyone thinks of Kate, NO ONE deserves this! No one ever deserves to have your spouse be unfaithful to you, in public or not. It is humiliating and just plain wrong. Jon appears to be angry and bitter of the success of the show and the success of Kate. It was easier when he was the good guy, and everyone liked him. Now that people are siding with her, his response is to run around like an idiot at all hours of the night with another woman?? Even if the affair wasn't physical, it is mental and emotional.

I think all of you who are criticizing Kate and yet condoning Jon's behavior are sick! How can you sit there and say that what Jon has done is any way OK? Or even suggest that Kate drove him to that? Jon is 32 years old!! He has free will and he took advantage of that. He has only himself to blame for this whole scandal. His erroneous and selfish behavior caused this media firestorm. I mean I how can you not be disgusted with a man who's excuse for not helping plan his kids' birthday party is "I need the weekend off" Selfish much Jon???

Kate is not about being a celebrity. You guys saying that are such hypocrites. How many of you would NOT have jumped at the chance to have you're own show and book deal if you had 8 children??? I'm thinking none!

I really hope these two can sort it out... at least for the sake of the children. Jon, you need to grow up and know your priority is your family. Nothing else! Kate, you need to understand that you and Jon are a team. You don't have to have control over everything.

Wow, what a show! So sad.......give me a break, they should be ashamed of themselves to continue with the moneymaking machine even though they are destroying the family unit.
We have 5 year old twin girls along with a 9 year old boy and it is hard enough and we are doing all the work that comes with it. Jon stated at the end of the last season that he had enough but Kate did not listen. Well she has now paid the price. Get off your podium Kate and do the right thing for your kids. END JON and KATE PLUS 8!!!

i really feel bad but kate is not the victim. the children really are. she was so mean and even the children seemed kind of sad last night. mady was nice but i think she may be on some kind of medicine because she was too calm. they should call it quits and go back to living a normal life they have enough money to hold them over and people love the kids so much i don't think tha the perks will stop.

I've watched the show for a couple of years and just knew that Jon would get sick of the way Kate talked to him eventually. Kate was just a nasty b#@%$ to him.It was painful to watch.She didn't even like the way he "breathed". He made a reference to that segment last night.Kate was whining last night that she was doing everything by herself but she didn't like the way Jon did things anyway.Kate has alienated all their friends and family and she is getting exactly what she deserves.We "reap what we sow".I just feel so sorry for these kids. It won't be to many years where they will be able to read all about themselves and this big mess.Jon is also acting like a 16 year old. Grow up Jon. I know they both said they are there for the kids.What a crock.They are there for the money.

This makes me sad. I love, love, love Kate. People say that she is tough, that's what I like about her. However, time to stop the show for the sake of your family. That's what Jon wants, and the kids don't need to watch their parents divorce on TV.

"Suddenly found themselves with eight kids?" Wait... were they hijacked in the night, drugged into submission, and forced to undergo fertility treatment? Were they forced to implant six (or however many it originally was) embryos? Why is it perfectly acceptable to manipulate procreation to produce a litter, but it is "against G-d's will" or "playing G-d" to manipulate it in such a way (by implanting fewer embryos, or reducing the number in utero) to better ensure the health and livelihood of whatever progeny result? Isn't that bizarre enough? Once it was done, sure, they could guarantee their brood a more PROSPEROUS life by selling their story. But would it be a happy life? Maybe yes, maybe no. For kids, whatever is the way they live is "normal." They've grown up in the public eye, with lots of money. Had they grown up with a nurse's salary (and whatever money Jon makes at whatever his career was), with less-lavish digs and less-lavish parties, and no fancy vacations (like most of us) they'd think THAT was normal too. It's really inconsequential. Jon doesn't like being batted around by Kate. Kate doesn't like relinquishing control, which renders her "shrewish" and "condescending." Jon is a bit passive-aggressive. Kate can be mean. They're not especially "bad" people, or particularly bad parents. The only way for them to make it work is for both of them to drop the ego and the regret -- Kate needs to treat Jon more gently (all the time), and Jon needs to face the fact that his 20s are over, and enjoy his wealth, monetary and otherwise. He willingly traded his 20s and his "freedom" when he elected to get married and have eight kids, NOT when he elected to raise them on TV.

Children learn what they live. I cannot fathom the selfishness exhibited by Jon and Kate. They have stepped into a bee's nest with bare feet on their own accord. They should feel sorry for themselves...we should not feel sorry for them.We should hope that the kids do not grow up and use the same tatics in the future relationships they will go through, but you know they will because it's what they are living. They created a monster. They can also get themselves out of it. Kate....get off your ego and show some respect to your husband. Jon...you will NEVER just be Jon again no matter what happens...grow a pair, stand up for yourself and EARN some respect.Both have to think that you are not just influencing the direct family...but the millions of viewers as well. The next generation is watching the show, seeing the tabloids. Make the current situation an example of what NOT to do.Get over yourselves and do the right thing.

Tried watching a few times but nothing ever sat right. Phony and glory mongers? Seems to be true! They have more now then most of us will ever have all because of our need to watch? Whatever!!! There are bigger issues in this world we should be concerned about!

One more thought on the kids...anyone else think it is a problem to raise your kids so every event they go to is first class, they meet the Harlem Globetrotters, Elmo after Sesame Street live, etc.? They are teaching the kids that they are more special than all the other kids out there - kids who are just happy to make it to see Sesame Street Live.

What happens when they realize the real world isn't quite so hospitable?

Very sad show last night. My 10 year old daughter has always loved this show. She loves the KIDS (remember them?) I didn't realize the focus would be so much on Jon & Kate last night, I wouldn't have let her watch. After the show, she said..."I'm so confused". Jon & Kate need to realize it isn't only ruining their marriage...it's ruining those children's childhood. You could see the disconnect between the parents and children now. They just seem removed from each other. Stop now, take your millions and go back to a simpler life.

They got married too young. Had kids too young. Jon is having a midlife crisis and wants it all back. Kate is obviously blinded by the fame. They need individual and couples counseling with a trusted pastor, and that is that. It's absolutely disgusting that they are documenting this downward spiral. Showing alexis saying to Jon: "Daddy I don't want you to leave anymore'... is disgusting on the part of TLC. This whole show has become disgusting. I do agree that they should do everything for the 'kids' financially, but what about EACH OTHER. What about your MARRIAGE? THAT is the biggest thing you can do for your children. They both resent each other and need intervention. The show needs cancelled. I for one, refuse to watch it anymore. Shame on you TLC.

Why isn't anyone talking about Kate and her bodygard?

I think Dr Phil should get involved Now that would be must see TV

I totally agree Bodum babe! I have watched a few episodes over the past few years and really was annoyed by the amount of ads for them on TLC. Jon & Kate, Jon & Kate, uggg! However I recently had a another child and would occasionally watch with a new perspective, a new moms. Man, how did these people do it??? As well, my husband and I have a similar dynamic in our own relationship. I think Kate has anger issues that probably were around before Jon, but are exacerbated with having a very hectic lifestyle... I can relate. I think that the suggestion of marriage counseling would be very beneficial as they do really seem to love each other. I also think that there situation could go one of two ways: They seek counseling and it shows people that it's ok to have struggles, both personal and within a marriage and that if they stay together or not, it's ok as long as everyones happier in the end... OR they can end up on all the tabloid/TV, everyone starts to hate them or love them (ala Team Aniston/Jolie) and they become characters for the world to watch fail, like Lohan, Spears, etc. I truly hope that people make the right choice and let this little family, who I believe needs to do this show in order to have a comfortable life financially. Why struggle if you don't have to? Thats enough stress in itself! I really don't want to see these kids on Maury in years to come talking about their "Hay Days"! Please just enjoy/hate them from afar... let them work out their personal problems... well, personally. Haven't you ever had a fight with YOUR significant other just before the guests arrive? It's tense for everyone, but depending upon how big the fight, they do blow-over! I really think this little (young, lol) family needs some time to heal and I hope the public will give them that. For my part, this will be my last search for info on it. I hope you can do the same. : )

Am I the only one who wants this family to get better? I've been watching this show since the kids were born; I love these guys! Yes, jon and kate have their issues, and both have some lessons to learn, but what marriage doesn't?!?! Kate said last night that marriages with multiples have a higher divorce rate. Clearly, raising 8 kids doesn't offer much 'alone time' for the parents. It can't be easy to not be able to relax with each other and bond like most families get to do. My wish for the Gosselin family is to focus on fixing the cracks and come out a stronger, happier family. Jon and Kate got married for a reason, right? And you can see that although Jon may wish for his younger days back, he LOVES those children, and missed them so much. I think that if the couple can work hard, and forget about the limelight, they can have their happy-ever-after right back where it belongs.

Here's a twist.....Jon time to man up boy! You made your bed; time to sleep in it.

You're a husband and a father. You have responsibilities. Accept your role as house dad, get the kids on the bus in the AM and get dinner ready.

Kate is CRAZY. She always was CRAZY. Big surprise she turned into psycho reality TV star. No kidding.

Come on Jon, quit being a puss and MAN UP!

Nope, I am done.

It seems in this world of ours you get better ratings showing a train wreck of someone’s life than you do showing the positive wonderful side of life. People have been sitting on the edge of their seats for years waiting and hoping that this family would fall apart, same way they do with Nadya Suleman. Negative stories make better TV just watch your local news and count how many negative stories are aired before one positive story. I wish them the best but it’s awkward and painful to watch, nothing entertaining about that. Wow, a video history of your parent’s breakup… talk about therapy!

This is why I watch the Duggars.

I got tired real fast of hearing Kate say over and over how she had to put this party together "by myself"..."by myself" blah blah blah. How about all the time she is on the road promoting her shallow self and Jon is home with the kids "by himself". She kept saying, "this is my job now" and it doesn't have to be. I did not feel pity for her. She admits that she was rough the last ten years on Jon, yet last night's episode showed nothing new. She still didn't let up. She nit picks him to death, it's like getting pecked by chickens. It's relentless and sad. I disagree with the fact that people don't push people to do things..everyone is responsible for their own actions, yes, but her hen pecking practically pushed him out the door. I know I would leave...a person can only take so much before they say "I've had enough". I think Jon has realized that he will be a doormat no more!

It's entirely possible Jon didn't cheat but went out and acted like a free, non-obligated 20 year old (which he isn't). It's not that hard to relate. He got busted publicly and now everyone is paying the price. Kate may not have cheated but when you're away all the time doing "what you're supposed to do" (except make your husband feel wanted and useful to the family), you leave the door open for a man to step out. It doesn't make her responsible for his actions but she has a part to play. It also doesn't make her BETTER because her absences were "virtuous"...she was away and left the family.

Likewise...Jon...needing a weekend off in advance of the birthday party preparations...grow up. You can't just show up at the party and have fun after everything else was done (like at a bar). I may not think Kate is the most uplifting wife but she is a capable and strong woman who gets the job done. He should have been backing her up. At the same time...she should let him (I mean...let him break one of the pinata already!).

They need therapy...alone and as a married couple IN PRIVATE. Not part of the show. If God blessed them with this family, He sure didn't expect them to blow it off on account of a TV show or rumours. It's time to save the family.

Either way...between all the travelling and being away from home...how dare either one of them miss a chance to be in the same house at the same time. That...is NOT keeping the kids safe. I'm encouraged by the last scene where they realized that being friends...but around the kids together...is the best thing for the family. Short of dropping the show and all that comes with it (and they should) they at least have to try harder at being together physically and being kind to one another.

It made me cry to watch Jon put his face in his daughter's neck after making sure she didn't hug boys. That was sincere. It broke my heart that Kate saw this as a potential last family picture.

Why give up now? Why not channel that anger and energy to sticking it to the papparazi and critics and make a real effort to be there as a family. You can do everything for the kids...but when you leave nothing for the marriage...there is no family.

Wow, I can't believe how judgmental some of you people are. If you were to find yourself with 8 kids, would you not take any chance given to you to provide them with a wonderful and prosperous life? I know I definitely would. There is NO way to parents could work full-time and make enough money to support them all. They would be lucky if half the money they made would even pay for daycare. By going the reality show route, they made the decision to be there with their children on a regular basis and still be able to support them financially.

Exactly how is Kate getting this celebrity wanna-be label? She wrote a couple of books and promoted them. The same as she would if she had a full-time job AND WAS WORKING REGULARLY, which, some of you seem to be criticizing her for NOT doing. There's no winning with you people.

Last nights episode found them addressing the issues they are currently facing in their lives. That's what the show is about. After all the rumors and news reports, you would all be criticizing them if they HADN'T addressed it. It's a double edged sword when it comes to viewers and their opinions. You can't please everyone all of the time, especially when it comes to matters of media. Being true to themselves is what really counts.

The show was interesting at the beginning and then became increasingly contrived. Now it is trash TV. We don't watch trash TV at our home. Truly it is sad for the kids. Only a fool would believe no harm will come to the children as these two dysfunctional people air their dirty laundry while continuing to exploit the kids. No more extended family and clearly no friends at all. Sad indeed. Would you let your kids go over to that house to play? Or your daughter babysit? Heck No! The Diva and the Wimp-that should be their show and the kids should be left out of it!

Kate is so grabby. She grabs everything from Jon and tells him he is not doing things' right'. She was doing that last night, too..with the pinata..then the lighter.Jon doesn't stand up for himself. Maybe that is what is happening now. He is finally asserting himself and she doesn't like it.

Kate it's over. You have put such focus on your celebrity that you have forgotten to put focus on your marriage. Putting Jon down, belittling and smacking him for all the world to see has put such a dim light on you. Your words last night were to put some positive light back on you but frankly it's too late. The show is going to be cancelled and that's your biggest fear that you'll have to go back being a nurse and a 'normal' person. No more glitz. You might have to stop the compulsive shopping, tanning and cosmetic stuff. That's reality. The marriage is over. Jon could not have looked more uncomfortable last night but his wish to be 20 all over again is selfish. He may not love Kate any longer but he helped bring those 8 kids into the world and to be out in the middle of the night with his girlfriend, sleeping over at her house, having the girlfriend over to his house is just WRONG. Get a divorce then move on with your life. Don't move on while you are still married....cheater. It was only a matter of time before this 'reality' mess came to a screeching halt. I feel bad for the kids but if what Jon & Kate said last night that they are "here for the kids" (very clearly they are not there for each other cuz it's over) then they need to focus on the kids, get off that show and take care of the kids.....really put them first. If you don't, shame on you.

Am I the only one who sees what wonderful kids the Gosselins are? They are adorable and interesting to watch. I suspect if any of us walked a day in Jon and Kate's shoes we would not be so judgmental. As for the show and talk of exploiting their kids, well, try raising 8 kids on a nurse's salary. I would do whatever it took to make sure my kids had everything available to them. They appear to be very loving kids and they get that from somewhere, like their parents...

I will continue to watch the show as I admire Kate (and Jon to a lesser degree) and how she copes with it all. I believe her when she says she is doing it all for the kids.

I think that they did the right thing to market themselves. Otherwise, where should you have gotten the money from to offer your kids a good life. Even if Kate and Jon worked 40+ hours/week, they couldn't have provided much money for the family and there would have been not much time for the children at all.

If they can't live together, they could take turns living with the kiddos. One week, he could live in the house with the kids, and the next week she could. Both should have an apartment or so where they can live if they are not with the kids.

As long as both parents stay in the kids life, the kids will be OK.

Yes I will keep watching.
Isn't that what they both want strangers/public to do.
1st episode of their 5th season was sooo raw and unfortunately Kate behaved as if she is not interested in salvaging her marriage. Jon stated that he did not want to be a stay a home dad, but no one is forcing Jon to cash his TLC paychecks. He too can put a stop to his participating with creating such horrible new footage for his children to watch.
It is really sad that she hides behind her faith when greed is her sole motivation to continue this show.
Yes I will keep watching.

What's real and what's not? Is this for ratings? I sure hope not! Last nights show was sad. All I could think about was the children and how this will impact their lives. My prayers go out to the Gosselin family, that they can find the right path.

Are you kidding me? All this sympathy for Kate when she has shown herself to be an emasculating media hog? She has stopped at nothing to promote herself and now that she has exploited her family to the point of estrangement, she is suddenly regretful?

As a mother, my job is to protect my children, love my husband and cultivate relationships with all of them that is conducive to a safe, happy environment.

She is a horrible mother, wife and she is just not a nice person. She favors some children over the others. She has a nasty temper and she has alienated her parents and sister and they will not have any thing to do with her.

Poor Jon! He is just completele sad and broken man. If Jon had any sense, he would escape, take the kids and leave her to her 'new found' celebrity. Oh, but wait, she can't do that because she is using all of them for that exact reason. Hmm.

It is time to boycott the show for the sake of the children.

it is such a sad situation. This couple has EIGHT chilcren to consider. Kate needs to give up the "stardom" she so seems to crave and get back to her own reality, stay home and raise her children she so desperately wanted and Jon needs to go back to work! Drop the TV show and raise your family. Where is Dr. Phil when you really need him?

I only started to watch because of their extra-curricular activities. I'm watching only for eventual train wreck that is their marriage. How dumb they both are to ignorantly blow off this 7 figure gravy train. Now Kate's spin is she is that one hard done by. Wake up, you put down Jon you put down the Jon and Kate plus 8 franchise. People have tuned in for feel good moments. Rating will increase temporarily during this tabloid stage, but not for long. Then you'll have nothing. Kate will write her Jon and Kate separate and then Jon and Kate dissociate. After that where will be the interest? Money and fame quickly turned Kates simmering ego into a super soccer mom diva. She is paying the price. They can't even agree to remain discreet until that natural show demise. Enjoy that sports car while you can Jon, because its the last one you'll own.

Sad on so many different levels - sad for the kids. Sad for how recklessly their doctor practiced fertility medicine. Sad for their loveless marriage. Sad for wasting my time ever watching them.

I'm sure tons of people watched last night, but will be interested to see where it goes from here.

I was so sad when I watched the show last night. I applaud them for trying to sit down and speak about what's been going on in the media. Its part of reality tv people drift apart with all the craziness that a successful tv show brings but It happens in real life too. I was sad to not even hear a I love my wife or I love my husband. I know they are there for the kids and I hope they can somehow work things out. I also don't believe jon and I think he is trying to relive his youth some men are dumb do stupid things and don't realize that they can do all those things they never got to do with their life partner. I hope they can work things out.

omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was so good, yet i felt sooooooooo bad for jon and kate...especially at the end when kate said that that picture may be their last family picture...i cried!!!!!!