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below, all from the Giannoulias campaign..... For Kirk campaign react, statements and fact check, click here.

CONGRESSMAN KIRK INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING A YES OR NO QUESTION: WAS HE SHOT AT, OR NOT?
Kirk military fitness reports contain zero mention of Kirk being fired upon

CHICAGO - At tonight's ABC 7 debate, Congressman Mark Kirk continued to refuse to answer yes or no about one of the most egregious lies he has told about his military service. Like a typical politician, the Congressman refuses to admit he wasn't shot at because he knows an honest answer will further damage his credibility with Illinois voters.

Alexi Giannoulias tonight demanded that Congressman Kirk come clean about whether or not he was shot at while flying over Iraq and demanded that he stop hiding behind his military fitness reports as an answer.

TRANSCRIPT OF ALEXI HIT

The truth: Mark Kirk never served in Iraq. On June 2, 2010, in a radio interview Kirk admitted: "I have never served in Iraq as a military man, I have been Iraq as a congressman, and then as part of operation Northern Watch, I deployed to Incirlik Airbase, Turkey, where we supported the no fly zones, so we were flying over Iraq, but we didn't set boots in Iraq." [AP, 6/4/10]

While speaking on the floor of the House in 2003, Kirk claimed "The last time I was in Iraq, I was in uniform flying at 20,000 feet and the Iraqi Air Defense network was shooting at us." But during an appearance before the Chicago Tribune editorial board, Kirk admitted that this claim "may not be correct." [House Session, 10/1/03, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeFf4JNx3tc; Chicago Tribune, 6/3/10]

JUST CAN'T ANSWER A YES OR NO QUESTION

OCTOBER 11, 2010:

Reporter: ... Why didn't you answer the question about were you fired on as a pilot?

Kirk: I also released all 21 years of my military, Officer Fitness Reports, and so, I served, Alexi Giannoulias did not. I corrected the record, I took responsibility for my misstatements, I apologized to the people of Illinois.

- Columbus Day Parade, 10/11/10

OCTOBER 10, 2010:

David Gregory: Well, but, but how do--how does one get careless on that? I mean, if you've served overseas, and you have, anybody who's in combat is very clear on whether they were in combat or not. So, you know, if you're a voter and you're listening to this, should there not be some credibility test for you? Should that have some weight in whether you can be trusted, if you're going to exaggerate your military record, something that sensitive?

Kirk: There certainly should be. And, and the level of scrutiny here is completely appropriate because this is a very high office. For me, what I did is first correct the record, then apologize to the people of Illinois. Then I released all 21 years of my officer fitness reports, these are my confidential personnel files, to everyone so that they could read.

- Meet the Press Debate, 10/10/10


Alexi Giannoulias for U.S. Senate

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JUST THE FACTS: CONGRESSMAN KIRK HAS SPENT MORE, BORROWED MORE, AND LIED MORE ABOUT HIS ECONOMIC RECORD
Kirk continues to use hollow slogan to distract from his support of failed Bush policies

CHICAGO - At tonight's ABC 7 debate, Congressman Mark Kirk continued to claim he will "tax less, borrow less and spend less," but Illinois voters know that the Congressman has actually spent more, borrowed more and lied more about his failed economic record than they can afford.

"Congressman Kirk's favorite campaign slogan is as true as his claim that he was fired upon in Iraq. And it won't distract voters from the truth about Kirk's failed economic record that led to a doubling of the national debt, eight million jobs lost and a trillion dollars of deficit-growing tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans," said campaign spokesman Scott Burnham. "Alexi Giannoulias is the only candidate in this race who has put forward a detailed plan to turn this economy around and create the new jobs of tomorrow right here in Illinois. Alexi has a record of saving jobs that Illinois voters can trust."
 


THE HONEST TRUTH ON MARK KIRK'S FAILED RECORD:

Kirk supported Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cut packages that primarily benefited the wealthy and double the national debt. [HR3, Vote 45, 3/8/01; HR6, Vote 75, 3/29/01; HR8, Vote 84, 4/4/01; HR1836, Vote 118, 5/16/01; HR1836, Vote 149, 5/26/01; HR3090, Vote 404, 10/24/01; HR3529, Vote 509, 12/19/01; HR586, Vote 103, 4/18/02; HR2143, Vote 219, 6/6/02; HR4019, Vote 229, 6/13/2002; HR2, Vote 182, 5/9/03; HR2, Vote 225, 5/23/03]

After providing the wealthiest two percent of Americans with more tax cuts, Kirk opposed one of the largest middle-class tax cut in the nation's history. That's a trillion-dollar cut for the wealthiest, and nothing for working families struggling to pay their mortgage, send a kid to college, and put food on the table. If Kirk had his way 98% of Americans would be paying higher federal taxes. [HR1, Vote 70, 2/13/09; Citizens for Tax Justice]

Kirk voted for every Bush budget that doubled our national debt, [HCR83, Vote 104, 5/9/01; HCR353, Vote 79, 3/20/02; HCR95, Vote 141, 4/11/03; SCR95, Vote 198, 5/19/04; HCR95,Vote 149, 4/28/05; HR4241, Vote 601, 11/18/05; HCR376, Vote 158, 5/18/06; SCR 21, Vote 377, 5/16/07]



As the unemployment rate stands in the double digits, Mark Kirk's plan to solve the problem is to ship more American jobs overseas. That's why he voted six times to protect tax loopholes that reward American companies for shipping jobs overseas. [Bureau of Labor Statistics; HR1586, Vote 518, 8/10/10; HR4213, Vote 324, 5/28/10; HR4520, Vote 258, 6/17/04; HR4931, Vote 247, 6/21/02; HR2871, Vote 120, 5/1/02; HR3529, Vote 509, 12/19/01]

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GIANNOULIAS DOMINATES, KIRK DODGES IN ABC 7 DEBATE
Kirk continues to lie, level false attacks

CHICAGO - Alexi Giannoulias clearly won tonight's ABC7 debate by addressing the real issues that voters care about like fixing our economy and getting Illinoisans back to work.

"The debate revealed the stark contrast between a typical Washington politician like Congressman Mark Kirk, who is beholden to special interests and has consistently supported the failed Bush economic policies, and Alexi, who says no to corporate dollars and has an economic plan to move our country forward," said Alexi for Illinois spokesman Scott Burnham. "Meanwhile, Congressman Kirk continues to duck questions about his military record and whether he was shot at overseas."

"It's easy to see why Illinois voters don't trust Congressman Kirk as he repeatedly refused to answer questions about his military record and refused to take positions on the DREAM Act and the DISCLOSE Act."
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QUESTIONS CONGRESSMAN KIRK NEEDS TO ANSWER SINCE HE DIDN'T ANSWER ANY DURING THE DEBATE

1. Your campaign has continued to criticize Alexi on the bank but you can't answer a simple question "YES or NO" on whether or not you were shot at while flying over Iraq? Will you now answer yes or no? Why is this so difficult for you?

2. Congressman, why have you designed a "voter integrity" program in solely African American areas? What specifically do you mean by saying the other side is going to "jigger the vote"?

3. Why do you continue to refuse to take a position on DADT?

4. Congressman Kirk, you claimed you led the fight to end the Bridge to Nowhere but Factcheck.org said you have exaggerated your role - and that you voted for it twice before you voted it against it?

5. Why did you refuse to answer what you disagree with the Tea Party on? It's a simple question. They support a lot of controversial things - like closing the department of education? Repealing the 14th Amendment?

6. Why do you refuse to support the DREAM Act? This legislation is not new, and has been around for 10 yrs, whether or not you speak Spanish doesn't matter?

7. Congressman you have repeatedly called yourself a fiscal conservative but you supported each and every one of the failed Bush budgets that took us from record surpluses to record debts - isn't this just another mistruth or exaggeration?

8. Congressman you support extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and are so worried about debt - how do you plan to pay for the $700 billion price tag? And why vote against the largest middle class tax cut if as you claim bringing tax relief to Illinois families is so important to you?

9. Despite all the help you are getting out of Karl Rove and third party groups - outspending Alexi by millions- you have yet to pull away in this election? What does that mean?

10. Have you spoken with Karl Rove at all? What did you talk about? Senator John Kerry equated these attack ads as Swiftboat like attacks funded by secret corporate donations - will you disavow these ads or push to have these groups disclose who they are getting their money from?


Alexi Giannoulias for U.S. Senate
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CONGRESSMAN KIRK INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING A YES OR NO QUESTION: WAS HE SHOT AT, OR NOT?
Kirk military fitness reports contain zero mention of Kirk being fired upon


CHICAGO - At tonight's ABC 7 debate, Congressman Mark Kirk continued to refuse to answer yes or no about one of the most egregious lies he has told about his military service. Like a typical politician, the Congressman refuses to admit he wasn't shot at because he knows an honest answer will further damage his credibility with Illinois voters.

Alexi Giannoulias tonight demanded that Congressman Kirk come clean about whether or not he was shot at while flying over Iraq and demanded that he stop hiding behind his military fitness reports as an answer.

TRANSCRIPT OF ALEXI HIT

The truth: Mark Kirk never served in Iraq. On June 2, 2010, in a radio interview Kirk admitted: "I have never served in Iraq as a military man, I have been Iraq as a congressman, and then as part of operation Northern Watch, I deployed to Incirlik Airbase, Turkey, where we supported the no fly zones, so we were flying over Iraq, but we didn't set boots in Iraq." [AP, 6/4/10]

While speaking on the floor of the House in 2003, Kirk claimed "The last time I was in Iraq, I was in uniform flying at 20,000 feet and the Iraqi Air Defense network was shooting at us." But during an appearance before the Chicago Tribune editorial board, Kirk admitted that this claim "may not be correct." [House Session, 10/1/03, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeFf4JNx3tc; Chicago Tribune, 6/3/10]

JUST CAN'T ANSWER A YES OR NO QUESTION

OCTOBER 11, 2010:

Reporter: ... Why didn't you answer the question about were you fired on as a pilot?

Kirk: I also released all 21 years of my military, Officer Fitness Reports, and so, I served, Alexi Giannoulias did not. I corrected the record, I took responsibility for my misstatements, I apologized to the people of Illinois.

- Columbus Day Parade, 10/11/10

OCTOBER 10, 2010:

David Gregory: Well, but, but how do--how does one get careless on that? I mean, if you've served overseas, and you have, anybody who's in combat is very clear on whether they were in combat or not. So, you know, if you're a voter and you're listening to this, should there not be some credibility test for you? Should that have some weight in whether you can be trusted, if you're going to exaggerate your military record, something that sensitive?

Kirk: There certainly should be. And, and the level of scrutiny here is completely appropriate because this is a very high office. For me, what I did is first correct the record, then apologize to the people of Illinois. Then I released all 21 years of my officer fitness reports, these are my confidential personnel files, to everyone so that they could read.

- Meet the Press Debate, 10/10/10

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