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The transcript of Chris Matthews' interview with Roland Burris on "Hardball" follows:
MATTHEWS: We begin with Senator Roland Burris. Senator Burris, thank you very much for joining us. You've been on the show before. You're on the phone from Decatur, Illinois. Let me play for you an audio clip where Governor Blagojevich's brother, Robert, talks to you about building up his war chest -- this is back last October -- and you express interest in getting Obama's Senate seat. Let's listen.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
ROB BLAGOJEVICH, BROTHER OF GOV. ROD BLAGOJEVICH: We've had a number of conversations about, you know, anything you might be able to do, you and Fred might be able to do here before the end of the year for Rod. Again, we're trying to get as much as we can in his war chest so that when he has to, you know, disclose in January... (END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Senator, what was that conversation about?

SEN. ROLAND BURRIS (D), ILLINOIS (via telephone): Well, Chris, definitely, it was a normal fund-raising conversation. I had supported the governor in previous fund-raising events, and his brother was fund-raising. That's what they do in terms of getting prepared for his run for reelection. And I had not only supported him, but during that period, I had supported other candidates. I told the governor's brother when he called earlier to call me back after November because I was supporting other candidates for the November election. And he called me back after the election. And of course, by that time, I had become very concerned about my interest in getting appointed to the Senate seat, as well as, you know, how could I help him with the fund-raising. And I had come to the conclusion, Chris, that that was not really a wise thing to do, that I could not give money to the governor because I was interested in being appointed to the Senate seat. So on the bottom line, there was no money ever given, nor was there any money ever raised.

MATTHEWS: You told me back in October -- rather, January 16th on this program, on the record, Senator, that they'd never sought anything from you with regard to the Senate seat. And here we have on the tape here a long conversation with the governor's brother, asking you to raise money and you talking about it at length. How can you say that they never sought anything from you?

BURRIS: No, Chris, in terms of that situation, that question never did come up in terms of what the governor was looking for from me. I mean, I stated unequivocally to them that it would be a conflict. I even said, without knowing that this was being taped or knowing anything about pay-to-play, that if I gave any money to the governor, it would look like I was trying to buy the seat. So based on that, we had really no type of improprieties, no type of inconsistency.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: And so that -- sure.

MATTHEWS: Let me get the statement. Are you saying that the governor's brother never asked you to raise money?

BURRIS: Oh, sure -- yes, he asked me to raise money.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: Absolutely.

MATTHEWS: Are you saying that the governor's -- that you didn't tell the governor's brother that you wanted to be appointed to the Senate?

BURRIS: I most certainly did. That's where the conflict come in. And so what I did not want to do...

MATTHEWS: OK, here's a conflict. Here's how you explain the conflict. Let's listen to the clip here, where you talk about being in a dilemma, wanting to help the governor, but you have this dilemma. And here's how you explain it on the FBI tape.

BURRIS: Sure.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
BURRIS: I mean, I'm trying to figure out how to deal with this and still be in the consideration for the appointment.

ROB BLAGOJEVICH: I hear you. No, I hear you.

BURRIS: And if I do that, I guarantee you that that will get out and people will say, Oh, Burris is doing a fund-raiser, and then Rod and I are both going to catch hell. And if I do get appointed, that means I bought it. If I don't get appointed, then my people who I'm trying to raise money from are going to look at me and say, yes, what was that all about, Roland? I mean, so Rob, I'm in a -- I'm in a -- a dilemma right now, wanting to help the governor. (END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Why would it be a dilemma for you to raise money for Blagojevich and not get the Senate seat if there's not a quid pro quo, a pay-to-play deal here?

BURRIS: Chris...

MATTHEWS: Why would it be a dilemma for you, Senator, not to get the Senate seat after raising money for Blagojevich?

BURRIS: Chris, it's a very simple process. I was always supportive of the governor. What I was torn from is the fact that I couldn't help the governor, and if I helped him it would create a dilemma for me because if I helped him and then I got appointed -- and by the way, I wasn't even on the governor's radar. I didn't get a -- the governor wasn't even thinking about me. I wasn't number one, number two, number three, number four. And Chris, if the governor had not been arrested, I never would have been appointed to that seat. I did not know that.

MATTHEWS: But why is it a dilemma -- again, Senator, with all respect...

BURRIS: But Chris...

MATTHEWS: ... why is it a dilemma for you if you don't get a Senate seat after you raise money for this guy?

BURRIS: No, no. That doesn't...

MATTHEWS: Why is that a dilemma...

BURRIS: Chris...

MATTHEWS: ... if it's not a quid pro quo?

BURRIS: No, it's not a quid pro quo. The dilemma was the fact that I wanted to try to help the governor and I couldn't because I wanted to get appointed to the seat. That's clear. If I helped him, then I would be involved in some quid pro quo.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: But I wanted to help him and I couldn't.

MATTHEWS: You said that -- no, there's no doubt that you said that earlier. But this is how you conclude your dilemma. "And if I don't get appointed, then my people who are trying to raise money -- I'm trying to raise money from are going to look at me, yes, what's that all about Roland? I mean, Rob, I'm in a dilemma." In other words if you don't get the job that you raised the money for, your people are going to be mad at you because they didn't get the Senate seat you were supposed to get out of this deal. How is that not incriminating?

BURRIS: Chris, let me tell you simply this. The people who I talked to and the only people I ever raised money for with the governor was my partner inside the office. The most we ever gave the governor was $5,000.

MATTHEWS: Right.

BURRIS: So there's no way in the world you're going to buy a seat. And I was promising to send my check to the governor, as I had done always...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... was send him a thousand dollars. Now, if you think I could buy a Senate seat for a thousand dollars, I think that was (INAUDIBLE) mistaken.

MATTHEWS: No, but you went further. Here you are...

BURRIS: But...

MATTHEWS: I'm sorry, Senator. Here you are, going further than the personal money. Here you are, promising personal money...

BURRIS: But that was a -- that was a...

MATTHEWS: ... and also promising a blind fund-raiser using the name of your law partner to avoid being discovered and being involved in this. Here you are, talking about what sounds like a conspiracy to hide the money you're getting for the governor. Here it is, your words.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
BURRIS: I know I could give him a check.

ROB BLAGOJEVICH: Yes.

BURRIS: Myself.

ROB BLAGOJEVICH: Yes.

BURRIS: And -- and my law partner, we were going to try to do something at the law firm. I might be able to do this in the name of Tim Wright, OK, because Tim is not looking for an appointment, OK?

ROB BLAGOJEVICH: OK. (END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: So you're going to do a fund-raiser through the law firm using your partner's name. Isn't that covering up your involvement in buying a Senate seat?

BURRIS: No. What I -- what that word should have said that, you know, Tim Wright would give a fund-raiser, not -- it would be in his name. He would give the fund-raiser, not me. But guess what? Tim Wright had already said that he could not give a fund-raiser.

MATTHEWS: Yes, but you don't understand...

BURRIS: I was -- I was -- Chris, I was only placating -- placating the governor's brother. So that's all I was doing. There was no...

MATTHEWS: Well, your problem here, Senator, is this is on tape, and it says, "I might be able to do this in the name of Tim Wright." In other words, you're doing the fund-raiser. You're raising the money. You're shaking the trees for money for the governor in his reelection. You're coming up with the money, but you're going to use the name of your partner. That sounds like a conspiracy to withhold your identity in this fund-raising scheme.

BURRIS: Chris...

MATTHEWS: That's what it looks like to a person listening to this.

BURRIS: Yes, but guess what, Chris? Number one, I did not raise a dime because I knew I couldn't raise any money. And after I hung up the telephone from the conversation, I said I couldn't even give him a check.

MATTHEWS: OK. OK.

BURRIS: I couldn't even send my own check.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: So based on that, there's no violation of any law, no conspiracy here...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... of anything of any magnitude because my partner had already stated, you know, on the second telephone call with him that we could not give any funds because we were interested in getting appointed to the seat, and if we did that, it would look like we're trying to buy the seat. But that's... (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: Here's the problem where it looks like here -- this is further on in the conversation, which was taped by the FBI. This is last October. And here you are later on in this conversation between yourself...

BURRIS: That was in November, Chris.

MATTHEWS: OK, back in November. Here you are, back talking to the governor's brother, where you sort of sum up the two things that are interesting to you here. Let's listen to what you put this together.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
BURRIS: And God knows, number one, I want to help Rod. Number two, I also want to -- you know, hope I get into consideration to get that appointment. (END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Well, doesn't that sound to the average juror that you're saying you're raising money for the governor and you want the Senate seat as a quid pro quo? Why would you say, number one, I want to help the governor, your brother, number two, I also -- I hope to get this seat in the U.S. Senate? How does that not sound like an offer to raise money to get a job?

BURRIS: Because, Chris, I knew that I had already said before that that I could not raise any money because I was interested in getting the seat. And that's what's clear here. I could not raise money. And that's where my dilemma came in. I wanted to help the governor, but because I wanted the seat, I couldn't do it. That's what that means.

MATTHEWS: No, but... (CROSSTALK)

BURRIS: ... and I did not do it, Chris. I did not do it.

MATTHEWS: I know. I know. I know. I'm only talking about what you said. I'm only -- all I have here is the taped conversation. (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: You said there would be a dilemma if he didn't deliver the job after you raised the money. If you say it's a dilemma for you not to get the job that you raised the money for, that is another strong indication that it was deal. (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: ... quote your words here. If -- let me -- I'm want to play this tape for you one more time, Senator...

BURRIS: Sure. Sure.

MATTHEWS: ... and give you one more shot at this because everybody's going to read this in the paper tomorrow and hear this on TV tonight. Here's you, explaining why you have a problem raising an open fund-raiser for Blagojevich's brother -- so in other words, doing this in the open -- but why you'd also have a problem if they shut you down and didn't give you the job after you raised the money. This is your further wrinkle here. It looks like you're squeezing this guy. Here it is. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

BURRIS: I mean, I'm trying to figure out how to deal with this and still be in the consideration for the appointment.

ROB BLAGOJEVICH: I hear you. No, I hear you.

BURRIS: And if I do that, I guarantee you that that will get out and people will say, Oh, Burris is doing a fund-raiser, and then Rod and I are both going to catch hell. And if I do get appointed, that means I bought it. If I don't get appointed, then my people who I'm trying to raise money from are going to look at me and say, yes, what was that all about, Roland? I mean, so Rob, I'm in a -- I'm in a -- a dilemma right now, wanting to help the governor. (END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: It just seems, Senator, like you're covering yourself in the beginning of that comment, and then you're getting to the point of squeezing the guy, saying, Buddy, if I raise you this money, I better well get the seat, because I don't know how else to read it. I'm in a dilemma if you don't deliver the job. (INAUDIBLE) saying it here.

BURRIS: I had no intentions of raising any money for the governor, I told my partners that, because I could not raise any money for the governor. This is why I had that conversation. I did want to help the governor. Please understand. Because I had raised money for not only the governor but for all other kind of candidates. I've raised money for a whole lot of other candidates. But this here was a situation where there was a seat involved. And I couldn't raise any money because, if I did, it would look like I was trying to buy the seat. So that's what I always said, that I could not raise any funds because it would be a situation where I was, you know, trying to get something type of a quid pro quo, and therefore, I could not do it. And I did not do it. I didn't even make a phone call to raise any money. There were no attempts to raise any money.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: And I didn't even send a check. After I said I would send my normal thousand dollars to them, after I hung up that phone, I said to myself, Oh, I can't even send is a check because that would be mistaken as some type of a way I'm trying to buy the seat. So I didn't even send a check.

MATTHEWS: Why did you promise him to go to your law partner and have him, or rather Tim Wright, hold a fund-raiser in his name so that you could get political credit for it? Why'd you do that? Was that to cover the evidence?

BURRIS: No, see that comment was that -- you know -- and in his name -- it should have been in his name. And that's what -- Tim had said already to me that he couldn't run a fund-raiser, and I was just placating the governor's brother with that type of statement, knowing that we could not do anything. That was just to placate him.

MATTHEWS: Well, I just want to read you back your words.

BURRIS: Sure. A basically.

MATTHEWS: "And my law partner, we're going to try to do something at the law firm. I might be able to do this in the name of Tim Wright" -- in other words, covering up your role. BURRIS: No, no, no, no, no.

MATTHEWS: Why would you use the phrase "in the name of" if this was on the level?

BURRIS: It should have been -- it should have been -- what I was saying is -- and this is what I was telling the other officials when they looked at this -- that this was the way I was placating the governor. But I was thinking that Tim Wright would send out the -- and he wasn't going to do it. So he would send out the invitations. Tim would put on the fund-raiser. But Tim had already said...

MATTHEWS: Well, did you have the intention of holding a fund-raiser at your law firm?

BURRIS: Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

MATTHEWS: So you were bluffing. You were bluffing. You were telling the governor's brother you're going to give him something you weren't going to give him.

BURRIS: Well, that -- I'd already said up above that I couldn't raise any funds for him, so that -- that was just...

MATTHEWS: Well, what do you mean when you say you're going to -- I don't want to drive this any further. One last time, Senator.

BURRIS: Sure.

MATTHEWS: You said you're going to use your partner's name in your law firm to hold a fund-raiser. Did you intend at the time you said this to Rob Blagojevich, that you intended to hold a fund-raiser in the name of Tim Wright or not? Did you intend to hold a fund-raiser?

BURRIS: I did not intend...

MATTHEWS: OK, so you were lying -- you were lying to the governor's brother.

BURRIS: I did not intend to hold a fund-raiser for the governor's brother. We were seeking to placate the governor's brother because at that time, it was my intention not to alienate the governor's brother. That's all.

MATTHEWS: So your legal and political defense is that you weren't telling the truth to the governor's brother when you promised to hold a fund-raiser for him. That's your legal and political defense, that you weren't telling the truth.

BURRIS: Well, I was seeking to placate him because there was no way we were going to hold a fund-raiser, nor did we hold a fund-raiser...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... nor was there any effort to even give a fund-raiser.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: Was after that telephone conversation, Chris, nothing took place, absolutely nothing, because...

MATTHEWS: Well, here's the context because I...

BURRIS: We had come to the conclusion that I could not raise any money and nobody in my law firm or in the consulting firm was going to raise any money.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: (INAUDIBLE)

MATTHEWS: Here's what I think is troubling.

BURRIS: Sure. Sure.

MATTHEWS: You start the conversation -- and I appreciate you giving me this exclusive conversation tonight because I've always liked you...

BURRIS: Sure.

MATTHEWS: ... as a public official, and I think you've had some real guts here.

BURRIS: Absolutely.

MATTHEWS: But this is very troubling. Quote, "I know you're calling to tell me you're going to make me a king of the world." That's the first thing you say to Rob (ph) Blagojevich. In other words, you're going to make me the senator. You're going to tell me the good news. And then he starts asking for the money and all this about fund-raising and fund-raising and how you're going to give him a personal check and you're going to set this thing up with your law partner. Then he talks about the 18 fund-raising events he's going to have, and you say, Well, I can join in one of those events, too. So you're offering more money. Then you say, number one, I want Rod -- I want to help the governor, your brother. And number two, I want this job. You're laying in the quid pro quo so clearly. It seems to me you're making it awful clear you want the job, you want to help him raise money, and that is play-to-pay, isn't it?

BURRIS: Chris, go back up to -- go back up -- up to that statement where I say, I cannot give you any money because I'm interested in getting appointed to the Senate seat.

MATTHEWS: Right. (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: You didn't want to be caught doing it, is what you're saying.

BURRIS: No, no, no. I -- because I didn't. I even told my partners that. I told my law partners...

MATTHEWS: OK... (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: ... then why did you go -- OK, you give three indications that it's about appearances. One, you talk about appearances. And then you say your real concern...

BURRIS: No, this is -- this is a conversation...

MATTHEWS: ... is that your money people are going to be disappointed that you went out and hit them up for money but you didn't get the Senate seat. Then you talk about wiring the money through your law partner. Then you talk about making a personal contribution. Then you talk about coming back and hitting in some of these fund-raisers that they're holding and giving them further money. Then lay down the quid pro quo rather directly, saying, One, I want to help your brother. Two, I want this job. I mean, you're laying it in so clearly. It's very hard not to see the deal here.

BURRIS: Chris, there was no deal. That's what I was seeking to avoid. There was no deal.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: I knew that I could not do anything because of the potential of a quid pro quo.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: That's why I didn't do anything.

MATTHEWS: The last thing you say on the phone was... (CROSSTALK)

BURRIS: ... not even knowing that this was taped -- hold on a minute, Chris. Not even knowing that this was being taped or anything else, I had the foresight to say, even to my partners, Look, I can't give any money to the governor. It'll be look like I'm trying to buy this seat.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BURRIS: And therefore, I didn't. That's the bottom line. Nothing was ever...

MATTHEWS: OK, again...

BURRIS: Nothing was ever given...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... nor was there any attempt to make a phone call.

MATTHEWS: I don't know how this is going to go down in court. I do know that you promised the governor's brother that you'd raise money through your law firm, through the name of your partner, Tim Wright. You're now telling me that wasn't the truth. You weren't -- you did not, even at the moment you said that, intended to raise the money. That was just to...

BURRIS: Well...

MATTHEWS: ... as you put it, to placate him. But at the end of your conversation, the last thing you said to the governor's brother last fall was, And I will personally do something, OK? So you're again committing yourself to a personal contribution, in addition to the attempt you -- well, you now say was just BS, basically, that you never intended to raise the money through the law firm. And you promised to go to the fund-raisers, some of the 18 fund-raisers he was holding. And what else? And you were concerned at the appearances.

BURRIS: No, no...

MATTHEWS: That's clear. You were worried about exposure here.

BURRIS: And the other issue was at the last, when I said, I will send my check by December 15th, was the fact that I had promised him in our second conversation that I would -- I had given him a thousand dollars in June and I was planning to send a thousand dollars.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: Now, Chris, if I could buy the Senate seat for a thousand dollars, I think that that would, you know, be pretty miraculous.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: My sending a check on the 15th would have been a thousand dollar check. After I hung up the phone, my assessment was, I can't do that. And I didn't do that. I did not send a check.

MATTHEWS: OK, last question, Senator.

BURRIS: Sure.

MATTHEWS: What do you think the average Joe out there in Chicago thinks after hearing that you were getting hit up by the governor's brother for money, and you're promising... (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: No, what do you think he thinks happened here? Do you think the average person in Chicago, as much moxie as they have, thinks what was on here was a fiddle, that there was a deal here for you to help them raise money and you got the job?

BURRIS: Chris...

MATTHEWS: Do you think the average person is going to buy your argument that these are unrelated, that you just convinced the governor's brother, who's tough as nails, that you're going to ray the money but you're really not going to do it?

BURRIS: And I didn't do it.

MATTHEWS: You think people are going to believe that?

BURRIS: Chris, I didn't do it. I didn't even make a move to raise one dime for the governor's brother. There was no attempt...

MATTHEWS: OK. OK.

BURRIS: ... no overt act, no anything because I told him I could not. And I was letting everybody that I talked to... (CROSSTALK)

BURRIS: ... was interested in getting appointed to the Senate seat.

MATTHEWS: OK, my problem with you, Senator -- is you're a fine gentleman, you've had a great year, history of public service. Let me tell you this. I asked you on this program January 16th, did the governor ever ask you for anything? And you gave me an answer about how, I never talked to the governor.

BURRIS: Well, but that was... (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: And then you said, He never -- he sought nothing from me. He sought nothing...

BURRIS: Chris, the governor never asked me for anything.

MATTHEWS: Well, what did his brother ask you for?

BURRIS: Well, the governor was trying to raise funds. Like, he was calling, you know, 1,800 other people.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: He was raising funds.

MATTHEWS: So what's the difference between the governor's brother asking you for money and you telling me that the governor didn't ask you for anything?

BURRIS: Because he didn't!

MATTHEWS: Isn't there a conflict there?

BURRIS: The governor -- the governor -- Chris, the governor never asked me for anything.

MATTHEWS: Well, what did his brother ask you for?

BURRIS: Oh, oh, oh, well, the -- oh, well, the governor was trying to raise funds. Like, he was calling, you know, 1,800...

MATTHEWS: Oh, OK.

BURRIS: ... 1,800 other people. I mean, he was raising funds.

MATTHEWS: So, what's the difference between the governor's brother asking you for money and you telling me that the governor didn't ask you for anything?

BURRIS: Because he didn't.

MATTHEWS: Isn't there a conflict there?

BURRIS: No, the governor didn't ask me for anything.

MATTHEWS: He had his brother do it.

BURRIS: Well, look, I -- I support all kind of candidates, Chris, in terms of fund-raisers.

MATTHEWS: Yes. Right.

BURRIS: Candidates called me all over, and I helped a whole lot of them with funds.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BURRIS: And, so, and then I don't -- I don't believe -- I don't consider that as asking for anything...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... because I knew that the Senate seat was -- was -- was...

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: ... was -- that the Senate seat was in -- in play here...

MATTHEWS: The problem is, Senator, this tape -- I have the transcript in my hand -- is back and forth throughout your conversation with the governor's brother you wanting the Senate seat, them wanting money. You want the Senate seat, they wanting money, that is the cadence of that conversation.

BURRIS: And guess what? And guess what, Chris?

MATTHEWS: It's in the context of a deal.

BURRIS: Chris?

MATTHEWS: Yes, sir.

BURRIS: Chris, absolutely. And, Chris, I -- I could certainly -- and you can see where I said that I couldn't give any money because it would look like I would be buying the seat.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BURRIS: So, that would clear that up. (CROSSTALK)

BURRIS: I mean, I was able to be -- to be -- have foresight to be able to do that. And there were some hundred -- 150 people were on -- were -- were on -- on -- on...

MATTHEWS: Right.

BURRIS: ... the governor's fund-raising list. I mean, they were just calling people to raise funds, because that was his whole agenda, to raise funds.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BURRIS: But in -- in terms of my situation...

MATTHEWS: Well, Senator...

BURRIS: Chris, listen one minute -- that I could not give anything, because I did not want to be a part of a pay-to-play. It's clear in that -- in that testimony. I didn't want to be considered like I'm trying to buy the seat.

MATTHEWS: Well...

BURRIS: Any contribution I would have given would mean that I was trying to be -- and that's the reason why I didn't give any money. There's no money even sent, no money even called to raise.

MATTHEWS: OK. Well, as you say -- as you say, you never intended to make good on the deal you -- you -- you made with the governor's brother.

BURRIS: No -- no intentions whatsoever.

MATTHEWS: You told me you -- you were just placating him; it was just to make it look like you were interested in raising money; you didn't intend to. Senator Roland Burris, sir, thank you for joining us tonight on HARDBALL.

BURRIS: Thank you so much, Chris. I really appreciate it. Thank you, man.

MATTHEWS: Thank you, sir. When we return...

BURRIS: All right.

MATTHEWS: ... we will dissect what we have heard just now from the senator with two Chicago reporters. And, later, the battle is on over President Obama's pick for the Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor. The right and the left are agitating already. You're watching HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.

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"All around the mulberry bush,
The monkey chased the weasel.
The weasel said it was 'all in fun'.
POP...goes the weasel!"

Ms. Sweet...as always, you "deliver the goods"! This transcript is fascinating! Burris is a smooth operator, leaving me to believe that I haven't seen such fancy dance-steps since I last saw Mr. Fred Astaire, on the silver screen!

Chris Matthews won't let this thing go, not by a long-shot; so, Brother Burris should stay in amazing shape, ducking and dodging Matthews' relentless interrogating...

Whee!!! This should be a lot of fun to watch!!

For context, it's important to note what Rod Blagojevich's future looked like in prior to the Patrick Fitzgerald press conference. Without Patrick Fitzgerald (who I'm disapointed with for not making this tape public earlier), there would be no Senator Burris.

I do agree with Roland Burris that his fundraising promises were NOT the reason he got the appointment. He got the appointment to distract the media, make Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senator Durbin and others on Capitol Hill and Springfield look racist and mostly because NOBODY else in Illinois would accept this appointment expect Roland Burris and his ego.

What a great defense, he was just "placating" him...he was just telling a little white lie to Rob. The problem with this is that this all happened before Rod's arrest and Burris didn't know how difficult it was going to be to get money to him.

The more that I read this transcript, and listen to the video, the more impossible it is to escape the flagrant and obvious QUID PRO QUO, by Burris, as well as his tactic of employing subliminal iteration and REiteration of his desire to be named to that Senate seat!!!

I hope that this issue spells his last "pirouette" in the national "footlights"...and his well-deserved "fall from a (dubious) 'grace'"!

Burris is an embarrassment, and a thoroughly unethical character...He even puts "politicians", at their worst...to shame.

Having listened to the exchange on 'Hardball', I could only shake my head in disgust. Sen. Burris spent most of the interview bumping into himself trying to mitigate that which was self-evident -- he did it, agreed to it, and is now lying about it. He is both an embarrassment and a disgrace --- a rightful heir to to Rod BlahBlahBlahovich.

If Roland Burriss would learn to tell the truth from the beginning, he would'nt have to worry about keeping his stories straight. All of his bumbling and backtracking makes him look foolish. His lack of character will end his career on a sour note.

Guilty Guilty Guilty. Wake up Illinois!! Wake up Chicago. Is this who you want representing your state? Between him and Dick Durbin, you have two MORONS representing our state. The problem is they don't represent our state, they represent the core of the corruption that has penetrated the heart of our freedom.

WAKE UP! Remove this person, Roland Burris. He's a liar and a sickening representation of the "THIEVES" that steal our taxpayer money for themselves.

Does anyone realize, by him being senator, what this means for his "retirement"? Let's look into that! While we struggle and hope our retirement funds even exist, this MORON will have a pansion in the 6 figures each year! And WHAT HAS HE DONE to deserve that? NOTHING!

I also caught that interview and was equally disgusted ! Now I really understand why blago apointed him, they are cut from the same cloth "Grey Area" and they both do it with a smile on there face.

With him being a lawyer he KNOWS BETTER ! We need to demand more from our Illinois Politicians ,local,state & National. They keep lowering the bar on a daily basis ! We deserve better. It is very obvious that they are ALL SELF SERVING for their personal benefit. While the rest of us are fighting for our lives !

HE DIDN'T PAY TO PLAY BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY
CASH TO PLAY!
HE LOOKS VERY THIRSTY FOR THE JOB, AND HE DID
SOLICIT THE POSITION!
HE SHOULD LET HIS ATTORNEY TALK FOR HIM!
AFTER THIS HE WON'T BE ABLE TO RUN FOR MAYOR OF
BOYS TOWN!

What's so sad and disturbing about this is Senator Burris believes that just because he "never sent the check" proves he did nothing wrong. He's either a not-so-fast, not-so-smooth-talking politician, or just plain obtuse and dense. I think it's the latter.

I'm truly embarrassed for the State of Illinois.

so in ill, we have not had a senator for how long?? since obama got the job n moved on about a week n a half later, then passed it along to this fool burris, who yields as much power in congress as a senate paige. get someone competent quickly!!!! what an embarrassing chapter in IL history

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