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We had such great turnout for our live blog during the presidential debate between Barack Obama and John McCain last Friday, that we're doing it again for tonight's vice presidential debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden.

Everyone is welcome to participate! You don't need to do anything now, just come back to Lynn Sweet's blog before the debate gets going (9 p.m. Eastern). We'll start the chat 30 minutes before the debate, and keep it going until 30 minutes after it's over. You can join the discussion at any point during that time frame -- and you can sign up for a reminder at left.

And as an FYI, we'll have more people behind the scenes this time to get things moving faster!

33 Comments

Too bad there is a little matter of a baseball game or two to watch too. Seriously.

I hope that Gwen Ifill steps down as moderator of this debate.
Her being the moderator has become controversial because of the book she is wrting praising Barack Obama.
Her being involved gives credability to the thoughts of Mark Penn who stated recently "the biggest loser in this election is the media". Penn was commenting about the media treating Hillary Clinton in a less than favorable way.

I Can't understand how Gwen ifill can be a fair moderator on tomorrow nights VP debate when she is coming out with a Pro Obama book in January.

IT'S A SHAME THE GOP AND MICHELLE MALKIN HAVE
QUESTIONED THE CREDENTIALS OF GWEN IFILL AS
MODERATOR OF THE DEBATE!
SHAME ON YOU GOP, DO SOME CHECKING NEXT TIME, THIS
LADY IS VERY CREDIBLE!
STOP GRASPING AT STRAWS!
STOP FEAR MONGERING!
YOU BETTER GET PALIN ALL THE HELP SHE NEEDS, LIKE
A STUNT DOUBLE, CALL TINA FEY!

I would like to see both Vice Presidential candidates, asked the question "Which one of them would be best qualified to take over as President of the United States and why, if it became necessary."

Lynn Sweet - STOP RATIONALIZING FOR SARAH (NO BRAIN) PALIN PLEASE. THE WHOLE NATION CONSIDERS THIS WOMAN A BIG DUMMY.
First of all you are advocating that we need to be more sympathetic of her STUPIDITY. She could not even deal with the simple game of Q&A. One question, one answer. SHE COULD NOT EVEN DO THAT. She has to BS her way to the question and hope that you already forgot the question itself. The Katie Couric interview, the Neo-Nazi Sean Hannity orchestrated interview, the Charles Gibson interview....disastrous interviews. The woman is ignorant about a whole lot of things...magazine she read, can't answer that, supreme court monumental decision, she has no idea, Bush Doctrine, she was so lost on this one, reform she and McCain will do, no comment,
"when I find one, I'll get it to yah" answer...
my gad! this is a woman who is a heartbeat away from the Presidency, EVERYONE HAS GOT TO BE CONCERN ABOUT THE STUPIDITY OF THIS WOMAN, WE GOT TO BE. THE FUTURE OF THIS NATION HANGS IN THE STUPIDITY OF THIS WOMAN. And you are telling me to be synpathetic????????
If my kid is flanking in school, you are telling me to be sympathetic of my kid? If my kid is saying all the wrong things, you want me to be sympathetic of my kid? If my kid is acting like Sarah Palin, you are telling me to be sympathetic of my kid's stupidity? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT US TO FEEL FOR SARAH (NO BRAIN) PALIN?
Hell No.
My two kids are consistent scholars, and so am I.
Sarah (Dum Dum) Palin is the epitome of STUPIDITY. And I DO NOT HAVE ONE DROP OF SYMPATHY FOR THIS DUMMY. If everyone rationalizes for the STUPIDITY of this woman, then maybe we should all not go to school and learn something, maybe we should all just be like her, a moron. Talking about Sarah (no brain) Palin, I just wish I did not go to school and learn something, maybe I can SYMPATHIZE with this Dummy. Just thinking what I did to get an education, Sarah (no brain) Palin is a slap on my face.

See you here!

I HOPE PALIN SHOWS THAT SHE HAS DEBATED BEFORE!
I'M FOR OBAMA AND BIDEN, BUT I WANT TO SEE A
COMPETITIVE DEBATE!
IN AMERICA YOU LIKE THE UNDERDOG TO DO WELL, SO
PALIN SHOW ME SOMETHING!
IF NOT RESIGN AND GO BACK HOME AND RUN ALASKA!
THE GOP IS DOWN 1-0 IN DEBATES, OBAMA DRILLED
OLD MAN RIVER LAST WEEK!

Can Biden ask questions of Palin during the debate? She seems to be utterly ignorant about history and politics, so wouldn't it be trivial to come across very friendly and nice toward her, but just raise any question about anything? She will become totallly flustered and begin babbling generalities demonstrating her total lack of preparedness.

Maybe McCain's thinking is to bring us some comic relief in such troubling times. You have to admit Bubba-Babe is pretty funny.

I think I must be getting old :-) I don't think I can watch and listen to the debate and talk about it at the same time! But more power to those multisynaptic types who can.

But anyone who is that interested in the debate (as we all should be - this is the single most important VP debate in history) should also be interested in knowing what they can about the debaters before it gets underway. We all know Biden. We've been listening to him speak since we were in 2nd grade ;-) But, particularly from reading blogs and the comments thereto, it appears to me that so few people seem to know anything about Palin!

The fact is that aside from essentially only three interviews, the public really knows almost nothing about her except what the mainstream media and the east coast blogosphere tell us about her. As if someone in urban Boston can identify with a moose hunter from Alaska sufficiently to "explain" her to the rest of the country!

It seems that if you really care about understanding the players in this election that you ought to see what Alaskans say about her! And I don't mean the few that were selected by the media for derogatory quotes or the putdown emails purportedly from Alaskans that are floating around.

Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that there are nothing but negative comments from the citizens of a state where she was running an unheard of 80% - 90% favorable rating prior to her selection? There are lots of Alaskan bloggers who may or may not like her politics but can tell you a lot more about her than you hear on the evening news. I'm one of them. I'm pro-choice. I believe in evolution and I'm highly skeptical that anything resembling humanity's view of God exists. In short ... politically I disagree strongly with Palin.

But, that is an entirely different issue than what amounts to character assassination that seems to be getting out of control. For a much more balanced view of the woman from someone who understands her and the culture that created her (even though politically largely disagreeing with her), take a gander:

http://www.alaskanwoulds.blogspot.com/

But do it *before* the debate so you have a better understanding of who you are watching up there. Thanks.

Re the bailout/economic recovery package. So far, no one has mentioned the farmers' need for loans. Almost all farmers get huge loans annually & pay them back with the proceeds from the next harvest. One of my friends who has a cattle operation is worried about renewing her loan which is scheduled to occur almost immediately. If the farmers can't get their annual loans, we are all in more trouble than we have dreamed of. Remember, "No farmers, no food."

As a non-American, I can honestly say that if the American people can vote for a duo like McCain (90% voting with Bush) and Palin (can't name titles of books she supposedly reads to compensate for not traveling anywhere), the world's time-honored image of America as a place filled with bold, intrepid, well-educated and competitive people will quickly fade away. In its place I'll see the image that is becoming increasingly prevalent: that of a bible-thumping, gun-toting, ignorant and paranoid people. Obama-Biden have their flaws, to be sure, but McCain-Palin is symbolic of America's increasing flight into a fantasy-land of God, guns, and 20th-century villains.

I know there's a game on tonight, but that's what Tivo is all about. You can watch both - and if you tivo the debates, you can fast forward past the boring (non-gaffe) parts. :)

From Backwoods: "The fact is that aside from essentially only three interviews, the public really knows almost nothing about her"
Because she gives us nothing but ingorance to grasp onto. Why rely on Alaskan bloggers to describe Palin when she describes HERSELF quite well; as an idiot.

I would like to see this question answered tonight:
In the case of incest or rape resulting in pregnancy, Sarah Palin has repeatedly said that she would "counsel" the victim to carry the child to term. She refuses to go into more detail about her stance on abortion.
Therefore, she must agree that someone else may "counsel" the same victim to abort the pregnancy.
Does this make Sarah Palin "pro-choice"?
Since the Christian Right has put her on a pedestal, they should expect Palin to take a more public pro-life stance. Stop beating around the bush Sarah...tell us what you really think.

I HOPE THAT SARAH PALIN GETS A PRONOUNCIATION COACH... ITS NU-CLE-AR BABE... NOT NU-CUE-LER

Regarding the moderator, she only asking questions. Why should she step down again? The book, from what I hear, is not solely about Barack Obama. It's a book the "new" Black political leaders of today.

She seems to be doing fine for me.

Palin is Slamming Biden, he is no match. The fact is that the Liberal side is no match for what is right in the world. Oh, and by the way, Pakistan BELONGS TO INDIA!!! MORONS!!! was made by the Carter Administration( Do nothing and Claim everything)Biden is Naive to think that peace can be made by talk, and not by force of hand. I am sure that if England, Australia, France, and the USA would have talked to the Germans about peace. WAKE UP!

I didn't realize that McCain and Palin were such a bunch of "Mavericks". Thats exactly what we need in this country right now, more bullcrap slogans. Reminds me of "mission accomplished"

This is AUSTRALIA calling. Please, please vote for intelligence, compassion and substance. To hear John McCain debate Obama and accuse him of inexperience in Foreign Policy - only weeks after he has made it a substantial possibility that this Palin woman could become president within the term of his presidency. She didnt have a passport until 2006 and then tries top to suggest in the Couric interview that people who have travelled are somehow elitist rich snobs. She is an outrage.

MCain lost whatever credibility he had war hero or not. A stupid political prank that is an insult to America, and in turn insults every international relationship America has.

You gave us George Bush, a man who has resisted genuine interaction with the public because he is so comfortable with the level of his own knowledge.

Now there is the possibility of Sarah Palin????.

Come on America - enough. Stop doing this.

Why would it help me to understand this woman- we know she was poorly educated, has no intellect and has had no interest in developing any , is small minded and obviously unequipped for the VP slot? No one did anything to her character- except her. I wasn't interested in her before her nomination and when she loses- she will fade back into the obscurity of being the governor of a state with fewer people than my county.

I've been watching the debate this evening hoping for a sell on Sarah Palin, but she is annoying. The idea that she thinks it gets past people that she turns on the sarcasm in a "cute" (annoying) voice is insulting to the American people. She only seems to do it when she gets stuck, but I've seen it several times this evening.

And, regarding the "maverick" theme, give it a rest. We've had a "maverick" (do it my way or the highway) in office for the last eight years. Look where it's gotten us.

Biden is so far above this silly, shallow woman. Knowing Palin is unqualified, the Repubs have pumped her full of platitudes, rehearsed answers, and she is arrogant enough to actually presume that she should be considered seriously for this position. She also is mean-spirited and irritating. Biden wins by a landslide! McCain loses dramatically for being so irresponsible as to choose her as a running mate.

Where is my earlier post? Funny that you would squash my post, Biden got slammmed all night long, he is Just Joe Biden, and she will be the First Woman President of the United States. He is laughable, and a sheep to the Socialist agenda of hte Showtime Obama Campaign. LOL Lost!

Interestingly enough the media continues to show their preference for a liberal ticket. Some of the questions were obviously framed to favor the dems. Tired of the same old liberal media bais.

I am amazed at those that try to rationalize the debate as a win for Biden by claiming that "everyone knows Palin is a dummy", using the Couric interview as a basis. We have seen maybe 1 minute of that 2 hour i nterview and CBS will not release the remainder. Can you say Dan Rather and false documents? What a joke.

On Gov. Palin: I think she did okay conduct and confidence wise. There was still a little tense and shaky moments that a viewer can probably sense when she was talking about some topics but for someone who has very little political experience to face off with a very experienced opponent I would say she kept her cool.

However, I thought she was very “cyclical” with her words and its almost as if she recorded a phrase and she keeps repeating the same answers over and over again regardless of the question being asked because she has no armory of facts or lack of knowledge of the important things that really matters to the American people. She sounds very intent when she’s answering the questions but if one listens carefully with what she’s saying regardless of her tone (cause she may sound convincing), Gov. Palin doesn’t answer the questions posed by Gwen at all. I mean politicians are known for dodging a question here and there but for someone running for the vice presidential seat and is a “heartbeat” away from being the president of the United States I was expecting some “substance” and factual information from her when answering the questions and/or rebutting Sen. Bidens statements. I would give her a C- for the effort, confidence and poise but did she convince me to vote for her based on this debate? My answer is a big NO.

On Senator Biden: I think his performance was very polished and came across as a gentleman on this debate. His performance in this debate was expected. Senator Biden came across as a very knowledgeable candidate that has been seasoned by his education in Law and his political and life experiences. I really liked the moment when he expressed his stand on knowing how the American people feels when he was talking about his wife and a son that he lost and his dad which I think brings a balance to the perception of what the public has of him. I would give Sen. Biden an A+. He did not go after Gov. Palin, was a gentleman all throughout the debate and most importantly promoted the Barack-Biden ticket rather than making the debate about himself and Palin. Senator Biden certainly at some point of the debate spoke about what he did in the senate and what his stand is for on some important topics but he always manages to bring the focus of the debate to the Barack-Biden ticket which I think makes for a good vice president. Also Senator Biden’s closing was very strong and I would say very “presidential” without stealing Obamas thunder. Did Sen. Biden convince me or swayed me to vote for Obama-Biden ticket? I would say YES.

When people say they are "elated" with Palin's performance I think that is just because everyone had such low expectations, its easy to look fabulous when you do mediocre and were expected to fall on your face......

Biden's Best Debate Ever! During the past 20 years I have listened intently to his input in the house; often agreeing, sometimes not. Yet each time I admired his outspokeness, zest and honesty. Tonight I realized why: Verbosity is a measure of passion and gaffes comes from speaking directly from the heart before political correctness sensors emotions.

Palin's rhetoric came from the frozen brain of a governor of an ice-O-so-late state. She's portrayed herself as cutsey hockey mom with VICTORY in mind. This is supposed to make us identify with her. Just like the original hockey puck was made of...horse Sh*T, hockey is the most violently competitive sport in the world. In the frozen north, 1/2 of your 8th grade classmates have knocked out teeth, 4" scars on their cheeks and streaks of skin running through their hair from imbedded skate blades.

Watch the body language in the Biden/Palin reruns: she dramatically glares at the camera when reciting 'from camp' and shakes her head "No" when she doesn't believe in what she's saying. She RAH, RAH, RAH's the USA to free Almighty American Oil Companies so they can save us from foreign prices. Come on...
The dollar price we pay for Alaska/Exxon Mobile drilling (in 10 years) will no different from any other. The deal between McCain, Palin and Exxon must be sweet!

Russia is not worth watching from Alaska. The NEIGHBOR to the south, west and north is.

For starters Google Bakken Fields. Google Athabasca Tar Sands and see what it has done to the land south and west of Alaska; that little known enemy?/ally? called Canada where Exxon, Shell, Chevron +++ bring us precious black gold because it's too risky to do it to Alaska's pristine frontier. It's now miles of barren land with drastically declined wildlife, increased cancer rates among the few remaining residents, lifeless lakes and landscapes resembling Scranton, PA's rocks.

Joe Biden must cringe!

As you will soon see alternative energies have not been limited to wind, solar and grain. There are many private research & development companies in this country who have been independently and feverishly working on solutions to alternative energy.

Watch!

PALIN SURVIVES ONLY DEBATE, BIDEN WINS DEBATE,
MCCAIN LEAVES BATTLEGROUND STATE OF MICHIGAN,
NO JOBS IN MICHIGAN, MCCAIN FACES REALITY, HE
CAN'T WIN IN THIS STATE, I'M OUTTA HERE, I'M
RUNNING OUT OF MONEY, NEXT TUESDAY HE WILL PUT
ON THE MAKE UP AND TRY AGAIN, RUNNING OUT OF TIME,
THE MONKEY'S TAIL IS GETTING SHORT, HE'S ON LIFE
SUPPORT LIKE THE CUBS, WHOA NELLY, OBAMA IS
KICKING MY BUTT!

She did much better than I expected, but she still came across as shallow and arrogant. I did not appreciate that she insulted her opponent with a smile on her face....people that do this I've never trusted. They disarm with a smile and then stab. You don't even know you're bleeding until you walk away, if you can. They enjoy inflicting pain....that's why they smile when they do it.

She smiled too much for a person being considered for the 2nd highest position in our country. She appeared insincere and not serious.

She's a rube, a hick. She is inexperienced but tries to make people think she knows it all. Her answers had no depth and she avoided questions she didn't want the American people to know her true views about.

She gets an F from me. Foney. She has eyes like the Runaway Bride - all wild and crazy. Maybe that's what she means by "maverick."

I would have to agree that while Ms. Palin might be a pleasant person to talk to ( although she definitely has a mean streak), she is unable to give a concise and coherent answer, but comes with memorized platitudes - pretty disappointing.
Bush was elected because he was "likable" - look that where it got us. He should be fired without a pension and sued for negligence.

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