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WASHINGTON--- While a state senator in Illinois, Barack Obama never championed a bill intended to teach kindergartners "comprehensive sex education," contrary to accusations by John McCain on Wednesday. McCain echoed a sexy--but misleading-- line of attack made last year by Mitt Romney and in 2004 by Alan Keyes, who Obama trounced in their U.S. Senate race.

McCain in an ad released on Wednesday tried to portray Obama as out of the mainstream when it comes to sex education. At issue is an extremist--and incorrect-- interpretation of sex ed legislation Obama backed in the Illinois state Senate.


In the new McCain spot, an announcer says "Obama's one accomplishment? Legislation to teach "comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners. Learning about sex before learning to read?
Barack Obama. Wrong on education. Wrong for your family."

The facts: 1. The bill was not Obama's. The sponsors were Democrats Carol Ronen, M. Maggie Crotty, Susan Garrett , Iris Y. Martinez and Jeffrey M. Schoenberg 2. The measure never passed. 3. The legislation in several places said all sex ed had to be "age and developmentally appropriate." Obama backed teaching youngsters about inappropriate touching by strangers. 4. The bill would let parents opt out of a sex education course.

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I expected you to also say, Lynn, that this was hardly Obama's "one accomplishment."

I remember months ago when Cindy McCain said that her husband would conduct an honorable campaign....guess she doesn't speak for tbe campaign. McCain has shown his true character in this ad-it is deplorable, dishonest and he should be ashamed of himself. All this from the man who "puts his country first"-what a joke.

"The facts: 1. The bill was not Obama's. The sponsors were Democrats Carol Ronen, M. Maggie Crotty, Susan Garrett....

Obama voted for the bill, the McCain ad never said Obama sponsored the bill.

2. The measure never passed.

That doesn't mean Obama didn't support the bill, does it?

3. The legislation in several places said all sex ed had to be "age and developmentally appropriate." Obama backed teaching youngsters about inappropriate touching by strangers.

Wrong! Lynn, why are you distorting the facts? Here's the text of the bill: "Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades k through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV. All public elementary, junior high and senior high school classes that teach sex education and discuss sexual activity or behavior shall emphasize that abstinence is an effevtive method of preventing unintended pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases and HIV when transmitted sexually.... The program shall include... including age appropriate instruction in grades K 6 through 12 on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections,.... sexual abstinence etc."

Age appropiate instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections? Abtinence? To a toddler? Lynn, I hope you didn't teach your children about these things when they were toddlers!

4. The bill would let parents opt out of a sex education course.

How nice of them, the bill lets parents opt out of sex education courses for their toddlers.

Lynn, I think you need to post a correction. You've distorted the facts, and that's not fair, nor is it honest.

Lynn
I always enjoy your comments on TV, and thanks for standing up and being honest.
John McCain should take lessons from you and Mr. Obama.

Need more specifics, Lynn. Fact three, especially. Is there an archive for dead bills in the Ill. gov. website?

This is a scurrilous attack out of nowhere that attempts to link Obama's character and soul to the heinous depraved world of pedophilia. John McCain, have you no shame? Have you no conscience? This is a family man you're indicting, the proud father of two daughters who mean the world to him.

By now it's a rhetorical question, but here goes: Why is the media as a whole avoiding this story?

What one takes away from this heartless smear is how easily John McCain and his team came up with it; as if by second-nature.

If Palin is innocent of abuse of power charges, then why is she putting legal road blocks up in the trooper-gate investigation? Why the secrecy if there's nothing to hide?

I've got that feeling again, that deja vu, that there is more to learn about this candidate.

McCain and Palin are strange bedfellows. McCain needs a woman to get him into the White House, something which he found it hard on his lonesome. As for Palin, she wants to jumpstart that really long moose-less road to the White House by backing MacCain, while what she's really doing is prepping herself to be the real deal Commander-in-Chief-in-waiting. Smart folks will see through the smokescreen.

McCain and Palin just gotta be the biggest con of the Century and to make things all the more yuck-able, the American folks really dig being lied and tricked by McCain-Palin duo who after all take them all to be nothing but herds of mindless moose ready for the trip to the slaughter pen.

Isn't 8 YEARS of the same Republican bullshit enough? Do we need more third helpings of the same yucks? Sometimes it feels right to think that American ain't nothing but herds of mindless mooose because they could be soo easily baited by nobody like Palin and a has been-like McCain. McCain forgets lines and issues,is easily irked, has a short-temper and is 70 plus.

Palin's working real hard for McCain because actually she's working for herself for she knows that McCain with age and disease won't stand too long as President. I'm sure many in Washington will do all they can to stop her from sitting in the hot seat. Her shortcut ticket to the Presidency won't go well with many a seasoned politician I'm sure. My bet's that her fall will come from the Republican axe and not the Deocrats, because many do not agree to the Palin pick.

To the true new-age founders of change being Barack Obama and Bidin, I wish you and the Democrats well. Take back the White House and please bring obn the promised change that will see peace and prosperity notonly in the USA but also the world. May God Bless You All.

OBAMA President
BIDEN Vice-President
CLINTON Secretary of State

it's all said

I am fed up with this tiptoeing around the issue regarding this, and other, McCain ads. The NY Times has published a fact-check piece taking issue with the accuracy of the McCain capmaign's obscene "Sex Ed" ad. But, the terminology that the NYT uses to debunk the ad is to claim that the ad "distorts" and "misrepresents" the proposed legislation. I don't understand why the media feel so compelled to be diplomatic. When you use words like "distortion" or "misrepresentation" the inference is that the accusations, while not wholly accurate, have some germ of truth to them. So let's call it like it is. These are lies. Lies. LIES. Okay? When you exaggerate something, that's a distortion. When you insinuate something beyond the actual facts of the matter, that's a misrepresentation. But, when you make claims that are wholesale fabrications, as this ad does, that's a LIE! Why can't the media say so?

Isn't there a point when a candidate can sue for slander? This was the most despicable ad I had ever seen in my life. Maybe it would make Obama look weak to sue, but if someone made an ad about me that was as chock full of lies as this ad was, I would be contacting my lawyer immediately. The problem here is that people won't remember the articles that refute the ad or Obama's own statement that the ad is a lie, people will only remember the ad, and its damage has been done.

Obama’s assertion that the bill was intended to teach kindergarten students how to protect themselves from sexual predators is yet another half-truth. The intent of the bill is very clear. Here is just one paragraph taken from the official text:

“Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV AIDS.”

The entire text of the bill can be seen at:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=0099&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=

Please tell me how you teach a five year old about the prevention of sexually transmitted infection in an “age appropriate” manner.

Greetings --

I find it sad that at this time in our history, so little societal growth is being displayed to our children. John McCaine is a liar, an adulterer, a cheat, a fornicator, and the Bible calls that kind of a person an "abomination." With his easy, continuing LIE about Senator Obama's important participation in legislation for comprehensive sex education for young children, I believe that the only reason he could lie like this is if he were a closet pedophile. With his creepy Jack Nicholson voice, Frankenstein appearance and constant lies, he is no more than a weed in a bed of beautiful purple flowers. It's time for Obama to pull that weed and throw it away because it is taking up valuable space for new flowers to grow.

His constant POW renditions make me think that he is in a mentally deranged "Viet Nam" state of mind that cries out for serious psychological help...and, HE WILL NEVER BE HIS FATHER OR HIS GRANDFATHER, the little twerp! HE WILL NEVER GO AS HIGH AS THEY DID BECAUSE HE IS AN IDIOT AND AM ABOMINATION.

Compromise is NOT the same as surrender...!

Ok, I read the legislation and it say between k and 12. It doesn't say teach 5yr olds about HIV. Let's not take things out of context. I've worked in the education system before and lots of legislation is left like this because we trust that our school teachers and administrators and community members can deem what is developmentaly and age approrpriate.
I've worked with young (under 5) children before and I know it is completely appropriate to teach them about good touch, bad touch. This helps children be able to express when someone hurts them. If you don't teach children those things they are more vulnerable to sexual abuse.
This legislatio is geared towards k-12 students not just 5yr olds, it clearly outlines that material shoud be developmentally appropriate and it gives choices for families to opt out of such instruction. Let's give our teachers and school personnel some credit, I'm sure their education included developmentally appropriate practices.

I am grateful for your article but I don't think it goes far enough. This ad is a 'Willie Horton' type ad intended to make people think Senator Obama is a pedophile. THe media should refuse to run this ad based on this. It is sickening and I think that the american people have to fight to reject this type of politics. We should all regardless of party express our outrage to the McCain campaign and the media that displays it. You can eomplain to the main sponsors that appear in that media venue as well. If you can fight animal testing of makeup or things like this we have to use our power as consumers to fight this sickening type of politics.
I worked for the child assault prevention project. I know that that age appropriate 'good touch, safe touch' education is necessary because even though we would like to believe that all parents could do this themselves, too many won't. And while we would like to believe tat 5 years olds do not get molested... they do. having worked as an inner city preschool teacher I know that these types of talks are done with incredible care and sensitivity and they provide help for those children and give them a sense of safety to 'tell' someone if something inappropriate happens to them.

I am disgusted by John McCain as the leader of his campaign. This is anohter example of his poor judegment and poor leadership! He is despicable. He has proven himself to be a perverted lying, sick, disgusting, dirty old man!

We need to fight to get as many people registered as possible... there is strength in numbers and we need to fight to get Senator Obama elected our next president. Then Senator McCain can be free to go and search for his lost honor. He misplaced it somewhere.

I am sick of the lies, the abuse of power, the hypocrisy, and the sleaze!!

Enough!!
Obama/Biden '08

Having now looked at the text of the sex education bill in question...it's clear that one of its key purpose was to change existing law that said "Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades 6 through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of AIDS" to " Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV." The bill was approved by the state senate's Health and Human Services committee with the support of Barack Obama. Shortly after one of the sponsors, Carol Ronen,apparently rethought the age issue and introduced an amendment to shift back to grade 6. But the revised bill never came up for a vote in the full chamber. It's sure a lot easier to scream the McCain is a shameless liar and that those who deemed the ad valid are hacks than to concede that one's preferred candidate backed a bill with an unwise provision!

OBAMA = REAL CHANGE
BIDEN = MALE HRC!
MCCAIN = 0.9xBUSH
PALIN = BUSHETTE

As an educator and a parent I'll tell you "how you teach a five year old about the prevention of sexually transmitted infection in an “age appropriate” manner."
You teach them that NO ONE can touch their private parts - except maybe a doctor who's helping them, and even then, their mom or dad must be with them. You teach them they cannot touch other children's private parts. That's what I taught my son before he was five and I hope every child learns that.

Can't you Democrats read? There is nothing in the ad that is incorrect. Lynn how can you openly lie? Didn't you do your own homework on this or did you just print what the Obama campaign told you? You can read the bill your self and Obama HIMSELF says you are wrong Lynn here is a quote from him the other day.

On November 20th 2007, Obama spoke at a Planned Parenthood event, and he said this about Alan Keyes, who was his opponent in the Senate race in 2004.
"OBAMA: I remember him, uh, using this in his campaign against me, saying, "Barack Obama supports teaching sex education to kindergartners." (laughter) And, you know, which -- I didn't know what to tell him. But it's the right thing to do."

Now all of you Obama supporters who called this a smear and all of the name calling when Obama is not ashamed of voting for it. Why the anger? Is it because you all know that the bill IS bad for kids? Or because it shows how far to the left Obama really is?

I doubt Obama knows what he voted for, or rather he will because he rarely voted. Could go either way. He started running for President the day he was voted in as a Senator. He specifically told the people in Chicago he would not do exactly what he has done. Obama voted "present" (when he did show up for work) mroe than he voted yea or nea for anything. Accompany this with his radical associates,his excuse for substance abuse (I'm black and confused - doesn't cut it) his white people hating wife and I just don't think he is a good person to look to to run this country. Afterall, he just might not feel like showing up for work and this country is a Democracy, not a Socialist country regardless of what Obama may want or feel based on his "citizenship" of the world. Let's pass on ths guy.

Gee in Australia we manage this sort of education without any problem. The real problem here is that McCain is a hypocrite of the highest order and Palin is worse.

I remembered when you wrote about Romney's spin on this back in July:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/07/sweet_column_romney_swipe_at_o.html

One more example of the McCain campaign 'recycling' their lies and innuendo. Straight talk? What a joke. They insult the voters every time they bring up this garbage. They know they're spinning, and they don't care. Haven't we had enough of that in the last eight years?

YOU HAVE BEEN OBAMATIZED....

It is such a joke to see so many people starying at a documented liar, w/ questionable relationships, and such strong immoral beliefs and saying that he is great.... You would think that this wouldn't be an issue because the thought is, if you are in a high position and making big money (media, actors, and other people of power) you are half way intellegent, but it appears that ignorance is at an all time high!

It sure is scary that these type of people have a voice and influence....

hopefully all you liberals will read the comments by tony which is based on facts. obama is the only canidate in the history of presedental elections that has skirted issues on his past. raised a muslim and you want to elect him presedent. bush is not the problem with this country it is the liberal press that has distorted the truth. the press should be screaming bloody murder about obama's record

Lynn

I can see that this is a fair venue for comments, the last one calls McCain a child molester, Nut, Liar, adulterer, cheat,Idiot,and fornicator.

I show you are wrong and it never gets published nice. The truth really doesn't matter to you liberals does it?

Jim Leahy

Thanks for the link, Pasch. One interesting thing to note, is that the bill is "marked up" -- changed -- from the original version. Presumably the marked up version is the version that was voted on (and down).

In the markup, the specific phrases quoted above in this thread are markedly (NPI) different than the language started out as. For one thing, the original language dealt with grades 6 through 12, rather than K through 12.

When was that change made? By whom? Did Obama vote on the original or the changed version?

And why did McRove say that the bill was an Obama "accomplishment," when Obama didn't even co-sponsor it, nor did it pass?

Not much of an "accomplishment" if you ask me.

Anyone know about the language changes?

The author of this article is wrong and there has been a massive effort by the Obama camp to hide the details of the bill Obama CO-sponsored (like McCain said) for comprehensive sex education in kindergarten.

"Let us consider the bill in question, SB0099 of the Illinois General Assembly. I quote:

Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K 6 through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV AIDS. Nothing in this Section prohibits instruction in sanitation, hygiene or traditional courses in biology.

Not only did Obama vote for and therefore support a bill that mandates sex education for all public school children; this bill was amended in order to ensure sex education would be provided to students from grades kindergarten through 6. How else does one explain the strike through the number six and the underscore below the letter “K” in the text I quote above."

Here: Read this article and click inside to read actual bill:

"Shameful and Downright Perverse: The Traditional Media and Obama’s Support of Sex Shops and Kindergarten Sex Education"

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/13/shameful-and-downright-perverse-the-traditional-media-and-obamas-support-of-sex-shops-and-sex-education/#comments


Are you all kidding? What part of teaching the prevention of STD's is not sexual? Kindergartners should learn about colors and letters not including the one's that spell out S-T-D.

McCain approved the ad. McCain said on the View that it was not a lie and he cound prove it.
Call him on it. Prove it! His judgment is slipping. He is not the same. He seems dependent on Palin.She is a danger to our basic freedoms.Start Googling folks. Im 72 and unlike McCain I know how to Google! Please look up her record on the environment. Every thing about her is a 1/2 truth at best. The average citizen can vet her better than McCain. See more info. under dead animals. Read the Anchorage Daily News. adn.com. Very large demostration there against Palin. See articles @ NYTimes.

Wow. I think its time for those who sheepishly fall into Rove-esque dirty conservative politics should actually think when faced with such a unbelievable comment such as "Barack Obama wants to teach your kindergardeners about sex." This to me is just as ignorant as a liberal foolishly seeing an ad on tv that said "John Mccain wants to deport all immigrants" and taking it as fact. For those of you that are actually open minded enough to look at the whole story and actually want to know the truth of the matter, here is more of the bill than just out-of-context material....

"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K 6 through shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.

All course material and instruction shall
be age and developmentally appropriate.

Course material and instruction shall teach
honor and respect for monogamous heterosexual marriage. Course material and instruction shall stress that pupils should abstain from sexual intercourse untilthey are ready for marriage.
Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of the possible emotional and psychological consequences of preadolescent and adolescent sexual intercourse outside of marriage and the consequences of unwanted adolescent pregnancy.

Course material and instruction shall emphasize that the pupil has the power to control personal behavior. Pupils shall be encouraged to base their actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations, such as respect for oneself and others.

If any school district provides courses of instruction designed to promote wholesome and comprehensive understanding of the emotional, psychological, physiological, hygienic and social responsibility aspects of family life,
then such courses of instruction shall include the teaching of prevention of unintended pregnancy and all options related to unintended pregnancy, as the alternatives to abortion, appropriate to the various grade levels."

...sounds almost like this "liberal" bill adheres more to the traditional conservative family values than those followed by a certain 17 year daughter we all know....

I will concede the McCain ad is misleading in one respect: It makes it seem as if Obama did more than simply vote for the bill. He did not author it, apparently, and calling it an "accomplishment" is a patently false statement.


But Lynn, you've got to do better than to take the word of Obama on his assertion that he "backed teaching youngsters about inappropriate touching by strangers." That part is well down on the details of the bill's aims and goals -- on the bottom of page 3 -- long after the parts about HIV prevention being taught to children as young as six (rather than in the sixth grade). That's like Susan Smith saying she pushed her car seat-strapped kids into a lake because she wanted to teach them how to swim! Please inform us how to teach kindergarten kids about to avoid HIV without first teaching them about sexual intercourse. I'd like to see how you would try to get around it.


Dan, whose post is above, wrote:

For those of you that are actually open minded enough to look at the whole story and actually want to know the truth of the matter, here is more of the bill than just out-of-context material...


(snip)


...Course material and instruction shall teach
honor and respect for monogamous heterosexual marriage. Course material and instruction shall stress that pupils should abstain from sexual intercourse until they are ready for marriage.


(snip)


and all options related to unintended pregnancy, as the alternatives to abortion, appropriate to the various grade levels."


(snip)


...sounds almost like this "liberal" bill adheres more to the traditional conservative family values than those followed by a certain 17 year daughter we all know....


Dan isn't "open minded," he is "empty headed." He is at best uninformed and at worst an outright liar. If he knew anything about reading the text of proposed legislation, he would know that the language that has been crossed out has been eliminated from the bill, and would not be part of the law if passed.


All the references to honoring and respecting heterosexual marriage have been crossed out. Recommendation that pupils practice abstinence? Crossed out. References to emotional and psychological effects of premarital sex and teen pregnancy? Crossed out. Alternatives to abortion? CROSSED OUT! Don't take my word, read the PDF: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/93/SB/PDF/09300SB0099lv.pdf


Remember, Obama is a man who thinks if an infant survives an abortion attempt, it should be left to die. After claiming that other people were lying about that, his campaign quietly admitted it.

What no one seems to mention is that the bill would pave the way for a change in the curriculum that was being taught. The Obama campaign itself referred to SIECUS which does spell out in detail what is considered "age-appropriate", even for children as young as 5. No matter how you vote or how much you despise the other side of the political coin, please check out the rest of the story at the SIECUS link below and read it in its entirety. Is this curriculum only about protecting young children from inappropriate touching? Is some of this information really appropriate for the age group indicated? If it were YOUR child in the Illinois school system, how would you want your Senator to vote?

http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf

Lynn,
Why are you always parroting Dem talking points? Why not just report the facts? You've become just another liberal partisan Lynn, what happened?

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