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WASHINGTON--Reaction to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) quitting Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago:

Statement from Trinity:

"Though we are saddened by the news, we understand that this is a personal
decision. We will continue to lift them in prayer, and wish them the best as
former members of our Trinity community.
"As in the prayer of the Ephesians, the entire Trinity family asks that the
nation entrust Barack, Michelle, Malia and Sasha to God's care and
guidance, so that Christ may continue to dwell in their lives, in their
hearts, and in their work. We ask now for God's peace to be with them."

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The Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, a practicing Baptist minister and President of the Interfaith Alliance, issued the following statement upon the news that presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama resigned his nearly two decade membership at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago:

"No candidate for the presidency should ever have to resign from or join a particular house of worship in order to be a viable candidate for that high office. To make such a decision for political reasons dishonors religion and disrespects the constitution. This is a sad day in American politics and even sadder in American religion. Senator Obama is at the center of the storm, but all who wed religion to partisan politics share responsibility for this tragic development."

The Interfaith Alliance celebrates religious freedom by championing individual rights, promoting policies that protect both religion and democracy, and uniting diverse voices to challenge extremism. Founded in 1994, the Interfaith Alliance has 185,000 members across the country from 75 faith traditions as well as those without a faith tradition. For more information visit www.interfaithalliance.org.


31 Comments

Obama did not resign from his faith the way majority would like to think. He resigned from that particular Trinity Church not from being a member of God's "Church". We have freedom of religion and anyone including Obama can worship God in any church he wants. The good news is he still believes in God----PERIOD!

SEAN HANNITY CLAIMS TO HAVE GONE TO SEMINARY, THE QUESTION IS DID
HE LEARN ANYTHING IN SEMINARY, WHAT A NEGATIVE PERSON, HE TRIES
TO CAPITALIZE ON NEGATIVES INSTEAD OF GIVING A PERSON THE BENEFIT
OF THE DOUBT, IF FOX NEWS SENT UNDERCOVER PEOPLE INTO A CHURCH,
SHAME ON THEM, BARACK OBAMA IS A GOOD MAN!

May GOD protect, bless and keep Sen. Obama and his family safe.

Wallace"Gator"Bradley
Urban Translator

So, now Obama has officially repudiated Christianity. Well, I can't vote for anyone who doesn't go to church!

What a joke America has become when a candidate has to attend a particular church!! Thank goodness Mitt Romney didn't get the nomination or maybe we would have heard more about his greatgrandad having multiple wives coupled with the LDS mess going on now in Texas. Or would we?

DID REV. GADDY TELL FOX NEWS ABOUT HOW HE FEELS!
SEAN HANNITY HATES OBAMA WITH A PASSION!

This makes Obama really look shallow. Worse then that it makes him look like a TYPICAL Chicago politician (LOL).
Why did he quit, but only after 20 years of attending? I mean he listened to this hate for 20 years but only decides to quit now.
This proves 2 things: His judgement is very questionable. And it appears he doesn't take a stand on anything. But is swayed by what public opinion says.

Senator Obama's viability for the highest office in the land is, in no small measure, determined by his perspective of this country - who we are, and who we strive to be. To the extent to which his attendance and support of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago illuminates those non-religious beliefs, then it is a fair discussion. Nobody is forcing him or his family to resign from church membership, he is doing so because it is the politically expedient thing to do. I for one am disgusted with the culture that exists in which those who spew hatred and bigotry are enabled to accuse those who call them on it as hate mongers and bigots. Physician, heal thyself.

Any person who isn't a hate-America radical would have left this "church" twenty years ago!

We need a tough, no-nonsense Black Man like Obama. Just because he went there for 20 years doesn't make him a conformist. I mean he left, who cares if it only was because what was going on in private became public? He could no more disown them then he could the Black community. Its time to move on, and look forward to Hope, and Change.

Well, Obama may very well be a good man. However, good men can still lack good judgment as he certainly does. He certainly doesn't understand America nearly as well as he thinks he does. Does he honestly think he is bringing the country closer together? Does he honestly think that he is transcending partisan politics? Does anyone honestly think he has the good judgment to lead this nation?

Obama is shocked...shocked that these terrible things were being said in his church....and, and, and, those people...they looked like they were enjoying it all....

Why, he had no idea that there were those kinds of things being felt, and spoken, there. After all, he only attended the church briefly...for 20 years, was married there, and, worst of all, exposed his young children to this vile hatred.....

What a pusillanimous, palavering, popinjay!!!

He knew darn well what the church's dogma was. He knew darn well what revs. Wright and Moss and Phleger were all about. Not only was it politically expedient for him to belong to trinity; it's warped, Marxist, form of Christianity, black liberation theology, conformed well to his red diaper baby upbringing as well as appealing to the ideals inculcated through his ultra left wing academic experience.

Oddly enough, this episode exposes Obama for the hypocritical, usurpacious, fair weathered friend type of individual he really is. His proclamation of being a new kind of politician, practicing a whole new brand of politics, is pure poppycock!

The only thing remotely revolutionary about his campaign, besides the Marxist idealism exhibit by his Che Guevara loving campaign workers, is his campaign's brilliant use of the internet to produce at times what appear to be an Orwellian mental synergy, and an ominous cult of personality reminiscent of the former Soviet Union. Otherwise, it is the traditional, opportunistic politics of useful friendships, sordid cloakroom dealings, and vote purchasing constituent pay-offs.

Most of the mainstream media will herald this as a "bold" move that will afford Obama a "fresh" start, unencumbered by any stigma of radical racist associations. In the usual fashion, they will declare that "the debate is over" and "the matter is closed". Any attempt to question him about his 20 years there will be dismissed as "dwelling on the past" or the perfunctory "distraction from the important issues".

What's really important is that if the tables were turned, and Maverick had sat idly by listening to the pontifications of the grand poo-bah of the KKK, or some other white supremacist, he would have been TOAST long ago. Not only do the mainstream media tolerate reverse racism, most outlets are actively engaged in trying to get Obama elected. I wonder if they really believe in him, or are they emulating the head of the Illinois state legislature; the man who decided he would play king maker and get Obama elected to the US senate.

Exit question; are the mainstream media wanna-be king makers or simply useful idiots; I’ll let you decide.............

Obama did not repudiate Christianity. He merely decided to stop attending a specific church where persons exercising their rights of free speech were making political life difficult for him. I personally don't understand why anyone would use church attendance as a politcal guide. There have been literally countless church-goers of little or no moral character and undoubtedly equally countless non-church goers of high moral character. Church attendance is a personal choice and some use it for political or professional advantage while many others use it because it brings them comfort. I believe Barack is a fundamentally good man. We'll see what the rest of America thinks later this year.

I don't understand the assignation of the word "hate" to this church, Rev. Wright, Fr. Pfleger, Michelle Obama, et al. I don't grasp the American right & those Clinton-backers who call out anything uttered by any of these folks as "unamerican." We are a nation founded in dissent -- armed revolt, to be more specific. We are also a culturally/economically/ethnoracially divided people, a nation of opressors and the opressed. Nothing said by Rev. Wright was 'unamerican' so much as it reflected the way a good number of Americans feel about certain issues. Nothing said by Fr. Pfleger was untrue. I suppose if one has lived a sheltered life, and/or a more priveleged life than a good number of us, they may not understand or be able to look at a bigger picture, through the eyes of the oppressed.

It's a sad commentary on our nature -- our system, too -- when public servants are strongarmed into renouncing any person or institution whose opinions may or may not offend a few people. As far as any of us who cannot speak for him can tell, Sen. Obama disowned Rev. Wright and his longtime church out of perceived political necessity. Rack up one for the flag-wrapped reactionaries and a loss for free speech.

Obama did not repudiate Christianity. He merely decided to stop attending a specific church where persons exercising their rights of free speech were making political life difficult for him. I personally don't understand why anyone would use church attendance as a politcal guide. There have been literally countless church-goers of little or no moral character and undoubtedly equally countless non-church goers of high moral character. Church attendance is a personal choice and some use it for political or professional advantage while many others use it because it brings them comfort. I believe Barack is a fundamentally good man. We'll see what the rest of America thinks later this year.

Obama is nothing more than a corrupt chicago machine candidate, who used the Trinity church to get ahead, then dumped it when it was not expedient. Obamas associations with terrorists and financial flim-flams runs deep - Ayers, Dorn, Rezco, Auchi, Farakhan, and more.

Its no wonder Obama has no problems meeting with terrorists and bag-men like Achmadinijad and Chavez - Obama has plenty of experience with that ilk, and seemingly enjoys their company.

Obama is a walking disaster who has no business being a presidential front-runner. Its a sad day for America.

This quitting of Trinity is for one reason, and one reason only: Votes

Though shall have no God before me
....except Blackness

You shall not use the Lord's name in vain
.....unless you're a Pulpiteer at Trinity

Though shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor
.....unless he's a whitey

Though shall not covet thy neighbors goods
...unless it's for reparations

Yeah, I want to share communion in Christ with this bunch?

Obama's whole campaign has made me sad. He started out as a fresh face, someone who could maybe help heal the race divide in the US.

As it turns out, I think his candidacy has made it worse. Obama said he never heard Wright/Pfleger/Moss/Etc say those awful racist, bigoted things at the pulpit when he was in church.

O.K. whatever Barack. But did you know any of the people in the church that were clapping, cheering and reveling at the hate speech being spewed from the pulpit?

If Barack was half the leader he thinks he is, he would have quit that church long ago and told the congregation how wrong it is for them to applaud such vile, racist, bigoted, hateful preaching.

For Obama to state that any of the vile drippings leaving Pfleger's mouth is new to him - that's blatantly absurd. EVERYONE in Chicago knew what Pfleger was about. Years ago!

Still - it is enjoyable to watch Bam reveal his "tell" during press conferences. You know darn well that he's going to try to hand us a load of crap when, nearly on cue, he becomes the Wizard of Uh's.

Stammer much, Mr. Wonderful? Or, is it only when you're concocting BS on the fly?


Anyway wait until folks start asking BamBam about Trita Parsi's connections to the mullahs.

That'll be a good time.

Obama left Trinity for one of two reasons:

(1.) He still agrees with the teaching there in spirit, but knows it will hamstring him politically because orthodox, believing Christians do not, and they make up a lot of the electorate.

(2.) He originally went there to build up a black power base, but never really bought its teachings, and now that the church is a political liability instead of an asset, there's no reason to remain there.

In each case the logic employed is cynical, and in each case he's leaving because the church is a political liability.

The only difference between the two possibilities is a matter of his original sincerity/motives in joining in the first place. But neither is particularly creditable: Option 1 means he still agrees with Trinity's racially-divisive, theologically-inventive claptrap (itself a disqualifier for participation in intelligent civil society); Option 2 means he never did (bully for him!) but was willing to attend a church, and raise his children there, for political expediency.

How much better off we'd be if Obama were an open (though hopefully non-evangelical) atheist! We could talk about more constructive things than that embarrassment of a church of his.

Phil: Take off the Cap Lock, dude, you're yelling.

As a poster above noted, Obama didn't repudiate Christianity. How could he, when he's never known Christianity? The only "Church" he's ever belonged to is the Trinity United Church of Hate, where the focus seems to be on honkey bashing, America bashing and Rage, rather than all that boring stuff like accepting Jesus Christ as your savior, seeking forgiveness of YOUR sins, etc., etc.

To top it all off the hate was delivered by a clownish, paranoid buffoon who denounced capitalism while driving a Porsche, a man who even stole the wife of a parishiner under the guise of "marriage counseling." Now that he's off to his 10,000 sq ft retirment crib, Rev. Vanilla Ice is filling in as guest hater, with one of the most repulsive minstral acts I've ever seen.

Barack Obama may never be able to attend another Black church during this current presidential campaign. During this election season, The Black church will have many guest speakers with controversial opinions, and if he is a member, will continually be challenged to explain them.

And the Black church is currently challenging itself to be more vocal in addressing the many ills that faces its membership, especially in urban communities. And during those frustrations in publicly addressing these issues, Black church leaders will certainly be doing direction action campaigns and having positions that again, if Obama is a member, he will be challenged to justify or explain. He does not need that kind of distraction, so he may be relegated to attending private, unannounced services, or settling for radio and TV ministries.

While he may not agree with the former pastor and guest speakers at Trinity, it is still the place where he got his commitment to feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and looking out for the least of God's people.

I have known Barack Obama since he first came to Chicago as a community organizer, and I have worked as a community organizer with him throughout his career, and he does not deserve this, but for the sake of the needed change in the presidency, he must make this sacrifice.

Mark S. Allen
Associate Editor
The South Street Journal Newspaper
*Veteran Political activist with over 30 "straight years in public service on local, state and national levels, including 7 years as a national staff member to the
Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr
*Former talk show host on the legendary Black/News Talk Station WVON
*Who's Who Among African Americans
*Who's Who In Black Chicago
773-392-0165

Senator Obama quit too late.
I wouldn't have attended this church after the first racist comment or defamation of our country.

Twenty years of listening to Reverend Wright would definitly have an impact on any person.

How much of an impact do you think it had on Obama?
What does the media expect Obama to say: I believe what they are preaching?

Would any of you reporting take your kids to this place.
Report on Black Liberation Theology. That's somehting that will scare the heck out of anyone. That's the belief of this church.

Obama's decision to join Trinity was a political decision. He needed the church to provide gravitas from the black population and also for the political contacts that would be available to him there. Now the church is proving to be a detriment and no longer necessary as he has reached his pinnacle, so he discards it. Look long and hard people, this man is not what you would like to believe. He is just another Chicago politician, no worse and no better than any other.

Obama's decision to join Trinity was a political decision. He needed the church to provide gravitas from the black population and also for the political contacts that would be available to him there. Now the church is proving to be a detriment and no longer necessary as he has reached his pinnacle, so he discards it. Look long and hard people, this man is not what you would like to believe. He is just another Chicago politician, no worse and no better than any other.

Land of free speech...not true! Speech is free only if you say what everyone wants to hear.
If you do not like a candidate simply do not vote for that candidate. I wonder what all these ranters are like in person. Can they really carry on a discussion or are they so fill with hatred they can only yell on the computer.
None of these people have heard all of the sermons given by the pastors discussed yet you want to vilify based on highly edited segments on television. No one has proven any of the stated ideas to be false. You condemn the candidates based on these reports and have never read their position papers or even attended a debate or rally. If you sincerely believe what you have heard or seen is not biased reporting you are so mislead. I shutter to think you are the citizens who the candidates are trying to serve. Most of you don't deserve these people...you are not worth the cost of citizenship in this country.

KUDOS TO BARACK OBAMA HE DEFEATED A MIGHTY MACHINE IN THE CLINTONS, NOW IT'S TIME TO DEAL WITH MCCAIN, MCCAIN WILL BE EASIER
THAN HILLARY, IF THE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE 8 YEARS OF BEING
BUSHWACKED, AND CHENEYDUPED, VOTE FOR OBAMA AND LET'S RECLAIM OUR
COUNTRY!

If John McCain's great uncle was the Grand Dragon of the Klan and he sat there for 20 years attending rallies but didn't actually participate, do any of you think that anyone in America would tolerate him for a Presidential candidate? He could claim he didn't hear those things, or that his uncle was eccentric and from a different era, just like Obama did. Would that excuse him? Racist hate speech is racist hate speech, no matter what color the speaker's skin.

Some people in the public arena forget that their cover-ups about their past and present intent will surely rise to the surface and be revealed.
Obama has no real connection with American blacks. He is muslim. He will soon be seen as a hood-winker, a snake-oil salesman and one who will do anything to get elected.
We see the first peek at this attitude when muslim woemn are shuffled out of television camera range, and his wife saying get more white people in here.
Burt Reynolds said it quite well(but he was referring to men trying to keep a youthful image) when he said you can only hold in your stomach just so long.

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