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INDIANAPOLIS, IND.---Here's the official Obama team spin on what is shaping up as a likely Indiana loss: "There really has never been any question that Senator Clinton would win Indiana," said a Obama talking points memo out Tuesday. Team Obama also blames Rush Limbaugh for urging Republicans to infiltrate the primary and vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Talking points on Limbaugh Crossovers

Limbaugh has been urging right-wingers to vote against Obama

* There really has never been any question that Senator Clinton would win Indiana, where she has the support of Senator Evan Bayh’s political operation and the demographics heavily favor her. But we saw today that perhaps her strongest asset was that Republicans believe she’ll be an easier opponent to beat in November.

* Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary in Indiana to help Clinton’s chances at becoming the nominee.

* Reports from Indiana polling places confirmed that record numbers of Republicans were taking Democratic ballots to vote against Obama. And Limbaugh himself bragged about the success of his effort on his radio show today.

Republicans are desperate to face Clinton, because they know Obama will be harder to beat

* Let’s be very clear: the Republicans want to face Senator Clinton in November, because they know that Senator Obama will be a stronger nominee for the Democrats, and will help Democratic candidates down the ballot. Republicans are so scared of Obama that they’re actually skipping their own primary to vote against him.

* That’s a stunning testament to the threat that Obama will pose to Republicans come fall.

* If I were the Clinton campaign, I don’t think I’d be celebrating too hard tonight. Winning a state on the strength of voters who want to see you defeated isn’t exactly the kind of win you want—or the message you want to send to superdelegates.

Ickes Comments

Comments are beyond the pale—and a distortion

* This afternoon, top Clinton advisor Harolk Ickes said that if Barack Obama were the nominee, there might be a so-called “October surprise” that would hand the election the Republicans. Using this kind of fear tactic is simply beyond the pale—and a total distortion.

* Time after time, we’ve seen that the Republicans are desperate to face Clinton in the fall because they know that Obama would be a stronger candidate. That’s what brought Limbaugh listeners out in droves today to vote for Clinton.

* To suggest that Clinton would somehow offer less risk of an October surprise—at the same time as Republicans are actively working to see her nominated—is certainly curious.

Not the tactics Democrats want to see

* But leaving that aside, this simply isn’t the kind of tactic that Democratic voters and superdelegates want to say. As President Clinton himself said a couple of years ago, “if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.”


32 Comments

LYNN SWEET LIMBAUGH SCHEME. hello all the talk and voting this week, welllllll what have we learned. just stop and think to your self. i am not a dem. or rep. but just a little thought for the day. one man that would be a great mouth piece president would be good old boy LUSH RIMBAUGH REMEMBER THE JOKE WHEN WE WAS KIDS. ABOUT EXLAX. WELLL LUSH IS ONE OF THE GOOD OLD BOYS. BUT HE HAS A PROBLEM HE TAKES EXLAX AND IT COMES OUT THE WRONG END. IT COMES OUT THE OTHER. NOWWWWW FRIENDS LET GO OUT AND VOTE THE WAY YOU WANT TO. PETE4424

so rush does have a crush on hillary! man that is so wierd but its a good strategy i guess..

Obama the stronger candidate? Puh-Lease!

You never did listen to Rush, did you? I guess not.

He WAS NOT asking people to vote for Clinton so she would win (he knew that wouldn't happen), it was to keep the contest going to damage both of them.

If Clinton dropped out a month ago, would we have heard of Rev. Wright? Probabaly not. William Ayers? Nope.

THAT was his plan... the MEDIA never vetted Obama, he got a pass. Keeping the contest going increased the chances that Obama would falter, ... he did.

THAT was the plan, NOT to nominate Hillary. Just today, Rush canceled "Operation Chaos" so people could now vote for Obama. Now that he is weakened a bit, we can go against him.

Trust me... Obama is the weaker Candidate.
Hillary and McCain are friends... McCain will NOT get nasty against Hillary, but WILL against Obama.

How did you not see that?
Oh yeah, you never listened to Rush's show, so you had no idea. It was NOT to nominate Hillary (she is the stronger candidate against McCain), the purpose was to keep it going so Obama is damaged and the media would have to look into Obama's past instead of anointing him King and never vetting him.

Period.

How could you miss that?

Accurate...to a point. Rush's argument for voting for Clinton was not to ensure she's the nominee, but to keep the race close until the primaries, so both candidates would continue to beat up the other as long as possible before the general election. Today, in fact, he urged the undecided Super-delegates to vote for Obama.

So my post needs to be approved? I dare you to post it.

I am soooooo happy to face Obama. My goodness!
Hillary is a known. Obama is unknown.

Rev Wright, William Ayers? Who is the easier candidate to show as inexperienced with problems? My goodness, it's Obama.

Listen to the tapes of Rush Limbaugh -- not the analysts or news idiots that are guessing. He knew all along that Obama would be the nominee... and said it many times!!! But, the media never did their job, so keeping Hillary in the race would do it for us.

The last 3 weeks? Rev Wright, Ayers, see?... It worked! Obama is weaker. You don't see people 'fainting' anymore now, do you?

I don't trust McCain, but he's far better than BO. I honestly believe that Hillary would wipe the floor with McCain. She has no morals and will throw McCain under the bus faster than Obama thre his racist, white grandmother under the bus to defend Wright.

This will be sooooooo easy.
Obama is Dukakis. Hillary would have been tougher, perhaps like an Al Gore.

Hillary vs. McCain, Hillary is Prez.
Obama vs. McCain, McCain is Prez.

Please, Rush is smarter than that... not only did he get what he hoped for (a damaged Obama), but he fooled you in the process.

That's the funniest part!
He even mentioned last week two "analysts" who said the same thing that you did and laughed. He wants to face Obama (duh!), but needed to damage him. Um... not only did the plan work, folks like you think he lost. LOL. That's the genius of the whole freaking plan! He got what he wanted (we did), and you believe we didn't.

McCain face a Clinton? No thanks. The Clintons are excellent politicians and liars (took you all long enough to figure it out). Obama? Wants to rise above it all when his friends are racists and socialists. Game Over!

Gonna be sooo funny. I predicted Hillary would win, but Obama to lose by 36 to 14 states. (win in DC). LANDSLIDE! Rush is laughing all the way to the bank, and you think he lost? That's the best part! LOL!

“if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.”

And you believe a Clinton? Just like Obama, they talk a talk, but walk a different walk.

Clinton says "hope", but will underhandedly play on fears. Just like Obama.

Can you not see this? It's what ALL politicians do.

If you can't see it, you're just another sheep in the herd. WOW.

"Republicans are so scared of Obama that they’re actually skipping their own primary to vote against him." Lynn, are you serious? What biased bullcrap. Republicans are not "scared" of an ultra-left-wing race hustler. Why vote in their own primary when it's already over? Why not vote for Clinton who is, in fact, less left wing than Obama (which says a lot of the most left-wing senator in congress, Obama, according to the National Journal). Republicans do want to face Hilary also because she'd be easier to beat obviously, because Obama puts people into a trance, like Chris Matthews' "shaky leg." Obama is a deceiver, and is hte only senator who spoke against the born alive infants protection act in the Illinois congress! Luckily it passed the US legislature before Obama was a senator there. He voted against tougher punishments for gang members, and has threatened to nuke Pakistan, the only arab country with nukes! Idiot!

Pretty slim pickings this time around... Nixon in '08.

So Limbaugh is guilty of encouraging people to vote.....

Gosh, that's awful. What's next? Telling his listeners to attend city council meetings? That sort of community involvement has got to be nipped in the bud or we're going to see the backdoor powerbrokers robbed of their rightful positions.

Bunch of crybabies. Clinton lost several primaries ago. She's a corpse that continues to twitch.

This is typical of the way campaign coverage has gone. Obama's camp actively pressed the "Democrat for a Day" strategy first, long before Limbaugh claims that he got the idea from Dems crossing over to vote for McCain.

Obama has benefitted more from the strategy than Clinton according to hard analysis in Pennsylvania, Texas, Ohio.

Clinton gets blamed (by Obama) for the strategy created and employed by Obama and the media buys in.

It was the same thing with the race card.

Claiming that Republicans "will skip their own primary" without mentioning that the GOP already has a candidate is kind of silly and very one-sided.

And Limbaugh's "vote for Clinton" push is nothing to do with facing Clinton in the general election; it's about getting the Democrats to drag each other through the mud and toil of an ugly primary, so the GOP doesn't have to do it later.

Whomever wins, I am for you! Go America! We can survive any politician. Meanwhile, I will help you save fuel and time while shopping and give you free local search results - guaranteed.

You know, the Obama machine thinks we Republicans would rather face Hillary but we would rather face him.

The people at Obama-rama pretend not to understand the gambit, they hope you are all as stupid as they want you to be.

Everybody knows operation Chaos was all about prolonging the Democratic primary and it succeeded.

ADK

By voting for Clinton, the Republicans did just what the Democrats did by voting for McCain to make sure that Romney wasn't chosen as their candidate. They knew that Romney would beat ANY Democrat. Tit for tat. Actually - Tat for tit.

There is NO Chance Barry O will be elected. You think otherwise?

Name one credential Barry Obama has to be Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces during time of war, the most dangerous war in American history.

Whoever wrote this memo doesn't listen to Rush, or they'd know what he was REALLY up to by urging the elephants to invade the donkey pen.

By voting for Clinton, the Republicans did just what the Democrats did by voting for McCain to make sure that Romney wasn't chosen as their candidate. They knew that Romney would beat ANY Democrat. Tit for tat. Actually - Tat for tit.

Politics is always a nasty business unless you come out on top. Its always someone elses fault if you don't win. It is always your superior abilities if you do win. At least the primaries give the voters something to do as the caucuses also do.

It is unfortunate that many voters will vote for their party even if their candidate is something less than desirable and the other party has obviously the better more capable and qualified candidate.

Clinton might be intellectually capable of being President, but who would actually want to trust her in that high office after all the well known devious activities she has been involved in over the last few years? I wouldn't want her for dog catcher.

Obama might not have all the necessary experiance to be a qualified Presidential candidate, but you could probably trust him way more than Clinton unless the party hacks gain control of him because of his inexperiance. Change is no dammed good unless it is the correct change rather than change for the sake of change alone.

McCain might not be the absolute best candidate for President, but he is the least problematic and has the most government experiance of the three candidates running for President. He has military experiance unlike his opponents on the other side who have no idea about what the military really is all about and why we have to have a military force.

Rush Limbaugh is probably more knowledgably qualified to be the President than the three other candidates all put together, but he isn't in the running today.

Just to make it clear, Limbaugh isn't urging votes for Clinton because she will be easier to beat, but in order to create a "hung" outcome that will be forced to the convention for resolution. In many ways, Clinton's toughness shows her to be a formidable candidate.

Isn't it odd how there has been no mention by the Democrats
about how they chose the Republican nominee by crossing over
in the New Hampshire primary.

I certainly do beleive (as a former republican) that because of the shameless self serving greed of the republican party, this country is going to swing so far to the left that business as usual will change forever. I myself am so disgusted with this (screw the people)administration that i am looking forward to this change. My status has gone from a working middle class family status to below the poverty line when my wife became ill and neede MULTIPLE SURGERIES! Prices went up, money went went down. I'm not bitter, I'M MAJORLY PISSED OFF!!!I can't get food stamps because I make $50.00 more than the limit. Can't get medicaid for the same reason. Here's the funny part, I had to drop my health insurance because I couldn't afford the payments, so please tell these non bitter minority to get out of the country clubs and take a ride in the REAL WORLD, see for themselfs what everybody's really going thru(if they have the balls).

If I were the Obama camp I would be afraid,very afraid! I believe Ickes comment about an "October surprise" will be prophetic. You know the Clampetts have a way of "Making things happen" If you get my drift.....

LOL I dont like any of the 3 candidates but Obama will be very lucky to get 40% of the popular vote in the general election.

Personally I believe Republicans believe if they have to have a Democrat for 4 years which is inevitable, they prefer to have Hillary Clinton.

Why aren't the Obama Campaign mentioning the black voters in NC. Blacks make up one third of the State and 92% of them voted for Obama, how can that be the reason to ask Hillary to drop out??

All signs say Obama will lose the Election!!
The polls say Hillary can beat John McCain and so what if the Republicans vote for her, better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.


Keep going Hillary, anything Rush can do to help is appreciated.

Hey "Obama Camp",

In Your Dreams! Rush's tactics were never about seating one Democrat over another. It was always about bloodying up both of them. And to that end it was a great success! Obama is worse for the wear for sure. If it wasn't for the likes of Rush and Hannity reporting on important issues of CHARACTER (You Dems- go look that one up) Obama would have easily become our next US President. Now, thanks to Rush and Hannity it will be a battle to the end, though I predict a McCain win since Obama has character issues that will prevent huge numbers of voters from voting for him in a general election. From A Happy Conservative.

Rush Limbaugh is so full of himself he will one day explode and take out a couple of city blocks. As an independent voter I laugh at most of his ideas and comments. He is most definitely a person who believes he is better than everyone else along with the Clintons. He should really be on her team. I must agree with Bill Clinton and vote for Obama since I have hopes for the U.S. which neither Clinton nor McCain will be able to provide me. I am far from being a liberal, but must give Obama a chance to bring some hope and pride to my beautiful country. Hope and pride that Dubya destroyed with his stupid sneer and diction. He is truly challenged.

This quote is simply inaccurate: "Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary in Indiana to help Clinton’s chances at becoming the nominee."

Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to vote in such a manner so as to continue the chaos in the Democrat primary. His logic, which he has clearly stated many times, is that the protacted fight will cause more problems for whoever the nominee is. Actually, yesterday, he stated that he thought Obama would be the easier of the two to beat. I don't know that I agree with that, but the bottomline is he's not trying to help Hillary get the nomination but rather attempting to keep the process going.

"Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary in Indiana to help Clinton’s chances at becoming the nominee."

That is just a lie! Do you research on something before you print.

No wonder nobody believes reporters any more. Your all good little liberals printing your version of Pravda.

I say bring Obama, your moma, on. If the democrats think that this Country is going to elect a black, liberal, pascifist, socialistic who hangs out with the likes of Rev. Wright and William Aires, then it just shows you how far out the democrats are from mainstream America and how ignorant they must think we are. Can you say landslide!!!

Part of the "talking point" information here is incorrect:

"* Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary in Indiana to help Clinton’s chances at becoming the nominee."

Operation Chaos was never about electing Clinton. It was about making this expensive and bloodying up Obama. This, because McCain will be unwilling to do it. It's also payback for the Democrat crossovers earlier in the Republican primaries that left us stuck with McCain. Seems fair to me and no, I didn't vote for Clinton.

"Rev Wright, William Ayers? Who is the easier candidate to show as inexperienced with problems? My goodness, it's Obama."

Apparently, you haven't heard of Rev. John Hagee, who endorsed McCain, have you? Well, you will......

I`m a reverend and I don`t endorse anyone. There all bad. It doesen`t really matter who gets in. None of these circus clowns run the country anyway, its all done by the beaurocrats.

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