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Obama says in no hurry to find new church. "This was one I didn't see coming."

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WASHINGTON--At a press conference in Aberdeen, S.D., Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the likely Democratic presidential nominee, announced tSaturday night that he and wife Michelle decided to quit Trinity United Church of Christ. This comes after Father Michael Pfleger insulted Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) from the Trinity pulpit last Sunday and after he denounced Triinity's Rev. Jeremiah Wright for his controversial sermons.

Obama said the family will not be in any hurry to pick a new church--not until January, when he knows if he will be living in the White House--and in the meantime they will visit other churches.

"I have to say this was one I didn't see coming. We knew there were going to be some things we didn't see coming. This was one. I didn't anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny," said Obama. He said it has been months since he has been at the church, on Chicago's South Side. "I did not anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subjected to such...scrutiny.

Obama sent a letter to the church with his resignation on Friday; Obama called the press conference after the letter leaked to veteran Chicago journalist Monroe Anderson, a contributor to Ebony and Jet. Otherwise, Obama said, he would have not made his resignation known at this time.

"My faith is not contingent on the particular church I belong to and I do not believe that I am going through a religious test," he said.

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Well, I guess when the whole campaign, and your wife, and her friends are SOAKING in misogyny it's kind of like being the frog that doesn't know to get out of the pot of water that's had some heat put under it?
Hmmm...

How could he not see it coming? What about the infamous 2006 Pfleger incident involving the Jewish commission members who resigned in protest?

http://www.nbc5.com/news/7782149/detail.html?rss=chi&psp=news

“Callers to Tuesday's radio show included the Rev. Michael Pfleger, the white pastor of a mostly black Chicago church and a friend of Muhammad's. Pfleger said "good riddance" to the people who had left the commission. "Leave, go ahead and go on out, we don't need that kind of a spirit or mentality and a narrowness on that kind of commission. I'm glad they're gone," Pfleger said.

The controversy involved a member of the commission, Sister Claudette Marie Muhammad, who is the Nation of Islam's minister of protocol.

[She] “was under the radar until she invited other commissioners to attend a Farrakhan speech last month. Criticism of Muhammad mounted after the speech, which included references to "Hollywood Jews" promoting homosexuality and "other filth." The three Jewish commission members who resigned said Muhammad should not be on the commission unless she repudiates Farrakhan's criticism of Jews, gays and other groups. On Tuesday, the Jewish Community Relations Council, which represents 46 Chicago-area groups, passed a resolution supporting the three commission members.

"We’re not willing to give credibility to this commission in the face of this appointment," said Alan Solow, the chairman of the council.”

Here's a fuller quote from Farrakhan, which sparked the brouhaha, from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=698094


Farrakhan said, "These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood. It's the wicked Jews, the false Jews that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality," and "Zionists have manipulated Bush and the American government" over the war in Iraq.

Also, how about Axelrod releasing any video from his proposed documentary on Pfleger? That might tell us something about what Obama really knew of Pfleger.

This has really gone to far, what are the preacher's doing or what are they trying to prove? I'm so ashame of Father Mike, he really doesn't know what denomination he wants to be, just wherever he can be seen and heard maybe he needs to be denounced from the Catholic Church. He really needs to have a reality church "MINISTER"S GONE WILD"

This not a decision I come to lightly, and frankly it is one I make with some sadness," noting that he had concluded "it was going to be very difficult to continue our membership there so long as I was running for president"

"so long as I was running for president"

"I'm not denouncing the church"

Hmmmmm

"How could he not see it coming? What about the infamous 2006 Pfleger incident involving the Jewish commission members who resigned in protest?"

Pfleger was a GUEST pastor to Obama's former church. How and why would he see this coming from someone who doesn't regularly speak at the church? To hold a man responsible for what everyone else says is just dumb!

But that's who seems to be voting for HC, right?

"How could he not see it coming? What about the infamous 2006 Pfleger incident involving the Jewish commission members who resigned in protest?"

Pfleger was a GUEST pastor to Obama's former church. How and why would he see this coming from someone who doesn't regularly speak at the church? To hold a man responsible for what everyone else says is just dumb!

But that's who seems to be voting for HC, right?

They cannot find anything that barack obama says wrong so they turn to people who speak at his church and try to connect their words to his. It won't work.

Jesus died for you sins upon the cross in Calgary.
Believe it or not. Actually, I don't.

With Barak Obama's departure from the church, we can prayerfully say: ENOUGH ALREADY, and get back to a discussion of, and finding solutions for, REAL issues that concern and affect REAL people.

I am very concerned about the entire matter involving Clergy and Senator Obama. i would never 'CLAP AND GIVE APPROVAL TO ANY STATEMENTS MADE BY THESE MEN'. The Senator hopefully will choose, friends and associates more wisely, and use his knowledge base to 'INVESTIGATE AND SCOPE OUT PEOPLE BEFORE HE GET INVOLVED'.
I am hoping that he and his family will find a NEW PASTOR AND CHURCH THAT "WILL BE LESS NEGATIVE IN SCOPE".
Jesus Christ is all about LOVE, NOT HATE.
Hopefully the "people at trinity", will understand that while they have freedom to worship, they should be more careful and especially if they are taping the message to be less negative, and give the people facts on both sides of all issues".
They are not perfect and all of us have SHORT COMINGS IN LIFE.
Hatred will only cause more HATE, and continue to divide us all.
Hopefull this will be a LEARNING TOOL to them also that all of these NEGATIVES MAY WELL CAUSE THE SENATOR TO LOOSE HIS CHANCES TO BECOME THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF COLOR.
I NOW WONDER WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE ON THE "BLACK CHURCH".

"conventional Christian Faith"?

If what Rev Wright preached is conventional Christianity, then I guess I was wrong in thinking the church I went to is Christian.

Responses like the above regarding Sister Claudette Marie Muhammed are just another example of a six degrees of separation smear attempt against Senator Obama, and in this case a blatant excuse to post inflammatory remarks from Farrakhan without any substantive connection to the candidate.

The phrase "infamous pfleiger 2006 incident" is a specious claim at best. The priest was a part of a committee appointed by the governor of Illinnois. That committee also included Sister Claudette, whose connection to Farrakhan offended other committee members, so they resigned. This was only a "pfleiger incident" inasmuch as it appears that he phoned a radio talk show to defend Sister Claudette.

I guess it's time to gear up for another round of scavenging the public record for controversial statements by anyone that Senator Obama has ever known or in some way associated with and then spinning blame toward the candidate. Score one for the Joseph McCarthy playbook, I suppose.

Obama has close ties to Pfleger that go back YEARS. There are also financial ties (he's aided Pfleger in securing money - $100,000, I believe – for a community center affiliated with Pfleger's church.) Axelrod is involved in assisting Pfleger's church as well. Axelrod has also aided in image management for Trinity Church. It's all one simmering pot of a Carnival of the Grotesque combined with corrupt Chicago politics.

How I wish the South Side would attract some REALLY GOOD people who actually help those communities!

Obama should not leave his Church, which is faked anyway. He should be a bigger person and step out of the race and clear the way for the better qualified candidate. Hillary has a the real chance to win and she is far more deserving anyway.

Step back and wait, Obama. Your opportunity will not disappear.

Well, we are supposed to believe that he didn't see this coming? HELLO, when Wright was on the first time, that is when he should have stood up and made his true feelings known. Oh, but he did, said he would not denounce his"uncle" but threw his Gramma under the bus. Then the next time, he ummm "Strongly disagreed"! Weren't you impressed? Next, he finally denounced him. Talked about how wonderful Moss was and how great he would be. Has as his spiritual advisor, Father Phlegel!! But, OOPS, he gave a speech and Obama strongly disagreed and was hurt by the message. THEN he leaves his "church" and DID NOT SEE IT COMING?? Personally, I think he did it for politics, folded to the critics, which only makes me wonder, how often will he fold to pressure IF he is elected!!!! The man has NO convictions other than he aspires to ruin, oops, I mean run this country!!! WAKE UP. DON'T DRINK THE KOOLAID!!!!

Well, we are supposed to believe that he didn't see this coming? HELLO, when Wright was on the first time, that is when he should have stood up and made his true feelings known. Oh, but he did, said he would not denounce his"uncle" but threw his Gramma under the bus. Then the next time, he ummm "Strongly disagreed"! Weren't you impressed? Next, he finally denounced him. Talked about how wonderful Moss was and how great he would be. Has as his spiritual advisor, Father Phlegel!! But, OOPS, he gave a speech and Obama strongly disagreed and was hurt by the message. THEN he leaves his "church" and DID NOT SEE IT COMING?? Personally, I think he did it for politics, folded to the critics, which only makes me wonder, how often will he fold to pressure IF he is elected!!!! The man has NO convictions other than he aspires to ruin, oops, I mean run this country!!! WAKE UP. DON'T DRINK THE KOOLAID!!!!

Obama is NOT responsible for everyone who sets foot in/or speaks at Trinity Church.

Father Pfleger has stood up against gun shops that sell guns to gang bangers, and against the proliferation of billboards advertising alcohol and cigarettes in minority neighborhoods where young children will be influenced. He is against poverty, violence and poor education in Chicago and proved it by standing strong and was willing to go to jail for his beliefs.

Even so, if anyone should be called to task for what was said, it is the man who uttered those words about Clinton, not Obama. Father Pfleger is tough enough to sleep in the bed he has made.

At least he won't have to apologize because he told a lie!

Wake up folks, this is all "guilt by association" by individuals that wouldn't vote for Obama if he was in a one man race. Pfleger told the truth and so did Wright, although he stretched the AIDS bit. For the Bible thumpers crying racism, try reconciling your OWN church's pictures of Jesus as the blue eyed, caucasian that history and the Bible tells us he WASN'T.

Obama "didn't see this coming"... WOW !!!!!!!
How brain dead is this joker ???

This is the guy who wants to make decisions for the most powerful country on planet earth....

it took him 20 years to figure out a racist,anti-semitic church might not be the best choice for a candidate for POTUS.....

remarkable.

Senator Obama is conning all of the American people.
He has called Wright his uncle
He has said he could never leave this church.
He has said that he never heard any of these racial remarks.

Wright has said that Obama is a politician and will say what he has to to please the American people.

That's just what he is doing to all of America now.
Wake up.

ALL OF YOU ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS, AND WHEN THE MAN IS PRESIDENT
AND HE IMPROVES THE ECONOMY, YOU WILL OWE HIM A DEBT OF GRATITUDE,
AND A GREAT BIG APOLOGY, IT'S ONE THING TO WANT YOUR CANDIDATE
TO WIN, BUT ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE SOME OF YOU HAVE
NAMED, IS RIDICULOUS, MOST OF YOU SHOULD WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT WITH
SOAP!
CAN YOU SAY PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!

In Lynn Sweet's Tuesday article about Hillary Clinton not conceding, Ms. Sweet ended by stating that "Obama needs to be really, really nice to Clinton's backers and to Clinton. And then be really nicer." First of all, most of us did not expect for her to concede, that would be too much like the right thing to do, but on the other hand, what in the hell are you saying! Obama has been nothing but gracious and nice to someone who, in my opinion does not deserve it. She (Clinton) was down right nasty on Tuesday evening and everyone knows it. I get tired of hearing about how Obama has to reach out to her. What else do you want him to do. Kiss her feet and her a_ _? On a night that was historic, Clinton was right there to ruin it for those of us who did not believe we live to see an African American become the nominee of a major party for the position of President of the United States.

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