WASHINGTON—First swipe at a front-runner came from former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Ak.) to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
Obama, a few minutes earlier mentioned he does not take money from political action committees and lobbyists. (He did for his Senate warchests. He stopped when he launched his presidential bid in February.)
GRAVEL: I wouldn't use either word (OFF-MIKE) Zach asked about
change. You're not going to see any change when these people get
We were asked about -- that we're united.
GRAVEL: We're not united. I'm not united on many of their
views. And I want to take on Barack Obama for a minute, who said he
doesn't take money from lobbyists. Well, he has 134 bundlers. Now,
what does he think that is?
And, besides that, he has received money from a Robert Wolf, the
head of the USB (sic) bank in the United States, who raised $195,000
-- from this bank -- wait a second -- who has lobbyists in
COOPER: Your time is up.
GRAVEL: ... and it's a foreign-owned bank.
COOPER: Senator Obama, I'm going to have to let you respond.
Well, the fact is I don't take PAC money and I don't take
And the bundlers -- the reason you know who is raising money for
me, Mike, is because I have pushed through a law this past session to
And that's the kind of leadership that I've shown in the Senate.
That's the kind of leadership that I showed when I was a state
legislator. And that's the kind of leadership that I'll show as
president of the United States.
GRAVEL: Wait a minute...
I’ll have to sort this out later….
*Here’s the question submitted by Republican National Committee chairman Robert M. “Mike” Dunca