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Oklahoma will now represent the Big 12 South in the conference championship game against Missouri after jumping Texas in the latest BCS Standings.

Texas beat Oklahoma earlier this year.

Let the debate begin.

How does this sit with you? Do you feel like the Sooners are more deserving of playing in the championship game than the Longhorns? Are you sick of computers deciding everything or are you a fan of all things HTML?

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That's what I am talking about. Go Sooners. I guess we aren't the only one's that realize Texas didn't exactly win outright with Colt Mccoy falling down and crying to get the 15 yard penalties against OU.

What a joke. Yes I'm a UT fan, but even if I wasn't, it's obvious the BCS isn't fair. Things won't change either cuz there's way too much money in the bowls. There is no way anyone can argue that two teams Texas beat should be playing for the Big XII championship. Why do we even play the games if they're not going to count for anything? Let's just turn the NCAA into a virtual reality game and let computers decide the outcome. OU SUCKS!!!

I quit College Football, I team is beaten by another head to head and in some wacked out world, they are ranked higher than the other, long live the Longhorns. They got robbed....

-Politics has no place in football

Texas got screwed by Mack Brown, who decided not to vote in the coaches poll to make things "fair".
Had he voted, Texas would have passed Oklahoma in the coaches poll (they were only ONE point behind them).


No other way around it Longhorns got robbed, beat OU head to head in a neutral field, politics has no place in football, I'm disgusted.

YES Texas di beat OU! NO ARGUMENT here. However, OU Manhandled Texas Tech and OSU!. Texas Lost to Texas Tech and Almost lost to OSU at home! Lets remember OU was without 2 great players while at Texas.
YES Im an OU FAN but I still think a better system has to be put in play! Simular to the "sweet 16" or something!

I believe Oklahoma should be above Texas with the victory of Oklahoma State a ranked team versus Texas who beat a struggling Texas A&M. I do believe that playoffs would be better than a computer program that seems to have continuing flaws. The Big 12 definitly needs to review their rules for a Conference Championship. I believe the two best records should play for the Championship. Go Boomer Sooners and congratulations, Thanks for the memories.

Stow it Texas fans. You beat OU, but were beaten by Texas Tech, who OU dominated. That's a wash with your head to head win. Computers and rational human beings can see that. Besides, THIS IS KARMA for your 2004 leapfrog of the Golden Bears to go to the Rose Bowl. Finally, your snub was long overdue!

OU sucks and Texas got robbed. If anything...I would rather see Tech win over Texas than OU go. I am a huge UT fan and not only do I think the whole BCS thing is whacked, but I hope Missouri stomps the crap out of OU just to knock them out of a National Championship Bowl game. The one thing I can still say though is Texas still beat OU this year. So choke on that Sooner fans

I hope OU looses to Mizzou.... I will laugh at the BCS. Longhorns got robbed, if head to head doesn't matter lets stop keeping score and play flag football

35 45 duh this is so not fair

WOW. I love how Texas has beaten both Missouri and Oklahoma and yet they are not playing for the Big 12 Title. And I don't remember Colt getting a 15 yard penalty for crying for getting hit well after the play was over. It's sad and wrong.

OU deserves to be in the Big 12 title game based on these facts.

(a) Oklahoma State University went to Austin and barely lost to Texas.

(b) OU beat OSU in Stillwater.

(c) OU crushed Texas Tech.

(d) Texas could not stop Texas Tech on a last play and lost with a perfectly healthy team.

(e) OU went to Texas A&M and won convincingly, while Texas beat their rival at home. OU pulled it starters early in the fourth quarter.

(f) OU has pulled its starters out in the fourth quarter in half the games this year or the scores could have been much more lopsided.

I understand OU getting in if Tx Tech was still in the picture, but no one still thinks Tech should be in there. Also, they almost lost to BAYLOR on Saturday, and if that happened UT would have gone despite rankings.
So it goes down to btwn OU and TX and if you cant take something into account that happened last month then what can you use to decide? Its a flawed system and OU got rewarded by the fact the BCS likes big wins at the end of the season. Texas deserves to go, but now CHOKElahoma will play. They better not repeat from the previous 4 years and get blown out.

Talk to anyone from Auburn from a few years ago, system is flawed and it wont change. It caues too much controversy and too much publicity, which equals money...

all i have to say is go missuri

"I team is beaten by another head to head and in some wacked out world, they are ranked higher than the other"

I'm confused Shane are you talking about Texas being rated higher than Texas Tech or OU being rated higher than Texas?

Many comments mention individual plays that determined the game. It has often been said that officials could call a penalty on every single play. So your particular bias can certainly get in the way on this one. For every "unfair" play you note, the other team can also find an "unfair" play.

Mack Brown and his staff have the class not to run up the score and get those so called "style points"---what is this? A fashion runway show??? That's what it sounds like. What happened to sportmanship? Do you really think Coach Brown would have let that last second touchdown take place again OK State. Hardly. Our QB would have been taking a knee. That's class, and that's the sporting thing to do in the last few seconds. BCS has turned everything upside down.

What an odd world we live in when a team who beats another team in a head to head on a neutral field is not rated over the team they beat. And YES, Tech should be rated over Texas. Why the heck not? And BCS should explain to these young men why the team they beat is ranked higher. Yeah, come on down BCS gods...tell them.

This is not official site or info....soo...HOOK EM!

Kyle responds: I certainly did not manufacture that graphic myself. It's official, dude.

People, stop bitching about the BCS. This isn't an issue with the BCS. It's an issue w/ how the Big 12 chose their tiebreakers. Simple as that. Blame computer geeks all you want. Fact is, the Big 12 shouldn't have picked something like the BCS rankings to chose a division champion. Other conferences have other tiebreakers that don't rely on the BCS. SOS? # of I-AA teams played? record vs. other BCS teams, etc....

This is why we need a new system in college football. In the head to head matchup,on a neutral field, Texas beat OU. Point spreads, etc., are just crazy. DUI---decisions made Under the Influence of the last game people saw. I am not a Texas fan, nor a fan of OU, but when the two teams met....Texas won by 10.

I'm done watching college football. I'd rather mow the lawn than watch the match-ups produced by the arcane BCS system.

Win outright I guess 45-35 is not winning the game given yall do have 1 lose. but OU won that game right, its sad when u have to run up the score on people to feel better about yourself. BlowU will choke next week just to prove once again yall cant win a big game. West Virgina, and the dreaded hook n ladder.

I think the big debate here should be why, with three very strong teams in the Big 12 South, we are having a playoff with the Big 12 North. Shouldn't we be arguing about why it has to be split THAT way?? I mean, the Big 12 Championship REALLY should be between OU & Texas. Missouri has no place in this mess to begin with.

I am Sooner born and Sooner bred......WAY TO GO OU!!!!!!!!

Go Sooners!!!! Enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan,
I couldn't agree more with your statement that the system is flawed.
The media cried for years for a system to rank the teams. They jumped into the BCS until they realized they could no longer crown their own champ so they bailed out and stated it was because it wasn't fair.
A tournament isn't fair either unless it is for a tournament champ. A playoff system would only help to identify the team lucky enough to win during the playoffs. Injuries, strength of schedules, luck of who you play all tend to muddle playoffs or make for more controversy.
I can remember when Kansas won the NCAA basketball tournament in 1988. As it turned out, Kansas had the most losing record of any NCAA champion ever. Go figure.
Bottom line is . . . no matter what the system may become, there will always be controversy. It is all interpretation by who ever has a poll.

This is BS, how can you claim that OU's strenght of non coference schedule puts them over Texas, Cinci and TCU were not ranked when they played OU and OU did not schedule those games thinking they were tough teams. The fact is Texas beat four teams while they were ranked and one of them was OU. OU only beat three teams while they were ranked, so just because Cinci and TCU ended up being ok teams should not play into OU having a stronger non conference schedule. Why is there different tie breakers for different divisions? In the SEC if there is a three way tie the third team is dropped and it goes down to the head to head match up between the top two. It's good to know that running up the score and throwing sportsmanship out the window is what helps, seeing as if OU really needed to score again after they recovered that fumble when they were already up and Texas takes out it's starters with over ten minutes left in the fourth. Hard to believe that a ten point win at a neutral sight is over turned by a last second play on the road.

Jeremie Papon-
Where did you read that Mack Brown did not vote? I've been trying to find it on google and can't. Please let me know, I need to read this for myself. Thanks.

i admit ou has a great team but,i dont understand how 2 teams that texas beat are playing for the big 12, just dont understand

How sad that a bunch of computers decided the outcome of OU and Texas going to the BCS Championship. If you look at the details, OU and Texas are almost tied in the human polls, but the BCS point differential is based almost exactly on the computer score.

I agree with Coach Brown. How is it fair for two teams beaten convincingly to be playing for the Big XII chanpionship and Texas to sit aside and watch. We might as well send Ohio State to the Rose Bowl. They did get beaten by Penn State, afterall. Long live Coach Paterno and Coach Brown, two gentlemen of the game.

By Jeremie Papon on November 30, 2008 3:46 PM

Texas got screwed by Mack Brown, who decided not to vote in the coaches poll to make things "fair".
Had he voted, Texas would have passed Oklahoma in the coaches poll (they were only ONE point behind them).


------------this may be true by bob stoops did the same- therefore if bob and mack both still had theirs OU would still be ahead by one.
*the way i see it is if TX was to go then TT wold be mad because they beat them so i think you have to take out the games when they played each other and look at the other wins. OU comes out in front with wins like OSU, cincy, and TCU. Texas is next, then TT.

Oklahoma clearly is the best team in the Big 12. I understand that both Texas and Texas Tech are greatly disappointed, and their fans will moan and groan about the unfairness of the system. However, unless there is a play-off system when there is a three way tie, human judgment will be the last word. Go Sooners!!!!!

What really needs to happen is send Mizz-who? home and let Texas and OU play for the big 12 title. Makes sence to me since they are the two best teams in the conference. Every team in the North is terrible send them all home.

Hey sooners...Scoreboard Baby! 45-35. And the Horns will win again next year. Let's see, the sooners have lost 4 in a row in the BCS? Just more proof the system works. Who cares about the sooners going the Big 12 Championship Game, the Big 12 Championship is a JOKE and the BCS is a JOKE. I am just looking forward to watching sooners treat the nation and the Big 12 to another embarrassment in the BCS and another loss next year to the Horns. Keep your Big 12 Championship, doesn't mean anything anyway.

As for mike you left out g) OU LOST to Texas.
And as for a healthy team against Tech, we lost Cosby in the 1st Qtr and Orakpo in the 2nd qtr our best pass rusher. I would say know the facts but you r an OU fan and that explains everything. Its funny how u leave the most important fact out yall lost to us

let the whinning begin. lets be fair guys if UT deserves to be over OU then shouldn't the guys UT loss to in a head to head because they couldn't contro the ball for the last few seconds of the game be over UT yes i mean Tech,then of course who beat them badly. hmm, it a never ending circle and UT knew this could happen with these 3 quality teams. these are the rules of the big 12. Mac said it best he would rather have these rules then that of the SEC or the Pac 10. I agree they need to be a play off system/ now if we can just convice the Bean counters of this.

To Jeremy Papone: Bob Stoops didn't vote in the coaches poll either and hasn't voted in the coaches poll all season because he gave up his vote this year.

To Shane: I agree that politics has no place in football. And I don't understand why Mack Brown spent so much time politicking for his team--even calling ABC during the OU/OSU game--and why UT boosters felt it necessary to fly a plane over the OU/OSU game to politic for their team. How tacky.

Is this result fair? Probably not. But it was agreed to by the schools prior to the start of the season, so it's not like it was structured to favor OU. Does OU deserve to play for the national title? I think so. But what I'm really hoping for right now is a narrow victory by Florida over Bama so that maybe we can have an OU-Texas rematch in the national title game. That would be sweet.

Everyone knows there needs to be a NCAA playoff. Problem is, possibly (4) teams from the Big 12 South are better than Missouri thus (3) of them are tied at 11 & 1. Whomever advances by the current system will likely have the other two saying "We've been shafted". TU claims they beat OU on a neutral field, playing in Texas is not what I call a neutral field. TT beat TU yet OU whomped TT. I guess the Coaches and the Computers know more than our personal desires.

I spent 4 years at UT. Oklahoma beat Texas Tech (#7 in BCS poll), TCU (#11 in BCS poll) and Cincinnati (#13 in BCS poll). UT's non- conference schedule had no high ranked opponents. The margin of victory was greater in OU vs OSU than UT vs OSU. The computers got it correct!

Keith,
This whole thig is whose ox got gored. If UT beat Texas Tech we wouldn't be having this discussion would we.
When our teams lose it is left in the hands of judgment.
Good luck with your Horns.
Mike

Not whining (or misspelling for that matter)... Scoreboard! Nothing else matters.

Bob Stoops did not vote in the coaches poll!!

I know that class doesn't count but Mack did say during an interview fairly early in the OU-OSU game, that it is most necessary that Big 12 schools revisit the means by which its championships are determined. He said that we owe it to the young men who play the game, that championships are determined on the field of play, and no other way. I find it hard to believe that Bob Stoops would have made such a statement, but his only class is low. To better accomodate a playoff system, I'd sure like to see the Big 12 Championship game discontinued. Maybe that's why some voted to not see Texas beat Missouri again this season in K.C.

MARKSATGUY,

I hope you aren't an OU fan. If so, you're an embarrasment to all the rest of us OU faithful.
Your comment on Colt McCoy was way out of line Pal! He is a college kid playing a game.
Shut your foul mouth,
Mike in Tulsa

Crying for 15 yard penalties? No way!!!!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT YOUR KICKER ACTING OUT A UT DEFENDER HITTING HIM? YOU DON'T CALL THAT CRYING FOR A FIRST-DOWN?

PLUS WE BEAT YOU FAIR AND SQUARE, THERE IS NO WAY YOU SHOULD BE IN KANSAS CITY.

Anyways, remember this OU fans...

45-35!!!!!!!

It's all a big show to OU, they kept in their starters in the whole game and ran up the score. All Bradford cares about is the stupid trophy and all stoops cares about is becoming a legend at his players cost. They are poor sportsmen. I don't even like UT but I feel they were the most deserving team.

Ok we(Texas) beat the Sooners and we have the same record. 11-1. And I know that there are also other numbers involved. But, how the heck does that justify them ranking higher than Texas. We beat them, there record is 11-1. Texas handed them that 1 loss fair and square. Period. 45-35. Texas' loss was to Texas Tech. If we were in the same situation with them, and Tech won the outcome, it's justified. Tech gave us our one loss, let them win the honor. Texas beat OU.

To bad Longhorn fans. Your silly flight over Boone Pickens stadium with a banner stating 45-35 didn't get you anywhere. By the way, that was very impractical not to mention immature. Show some composure will ya!! OU fans just move on and look forward to the next game and show a lot better sportsmanship. The statistics don't lie. Get over it already!! You lost to Texas Tech by what--a million points. OU won. Enough said.

Texas Fans.. Choke on this... your team sucks, you got lucky against OU, everyone int he country knows that at this point OU is better. Bradford.... Look at the stats, he totaly outplayed Colt this year, even in the Texas game, Texas won the game due to 2 horrible calls, and the karma gods just set it straight... oh, and choke on this texas fans... The next Heisman Trophy winner.....SAM BRADFORD....

The computer methodology is a joke. Missouri is lucky their conference stinks. UT beat OU on a neutral field. UT's one loss was one the road.

The BCS sucks....they should let these guys play head-to-head again at a neutral site to decide who plays Missouri.

What a joke...

To adaj: What are you cry babying about? Bradford is a great player and doesn't give a flip about the "trophy". And Bob Stoops is the best and cares deeply about his players. And they are not poor sports. Have you read some of the comments by the UT fans? That's poor sportsman ship! Get a grip on reality why don't cha!!!!!

OU yall got lucky.
but when yall play just try not to forget 45-35
a 2 year old can tell who won that game.

-and yes i said yall because im from Texas

Texas got robbed. I do not have a dog in this fight, however I think it is a shame to hold a Big 12 Championship game between 2 schools that both lost to Texas and Texas not be allowed to compete for that Championship. Texas' only revenge could come if Mizzou beats Oklahoma and Alabama beats Florida. Then it is possible that Texas might play Alabama for the BCS National Championship. To me that would be the ultimate embarassment to Oklahoma and the Big 12 conference rules.

texas can't beat us even when they beat us

Texas fan should cry me a river. Imagine if Oklahoma LOST to Oklahoma St. then Texas Tech would be in the Championship game over Texas. So cry more Texan babies!

Andrew, you're closing sounded very articulate

Jeremie Papon, OU's Bob Stoops didn't vote either

Lot's of serious people about college football on this site. Quite funny actually. Guys, it is only college football. Exceptionally fun? Yes. Life or death? Hardly. Texas beat OU, that is all that matters. And OU is going to the Big 12 Championship game with a roster full of Texan babies... Everyone in the world knows the sooners are better? Hmmm, actually, more human voters put the Horns ahead. The computers made the difference. Anyway, still a fun season. The Horns will play in a BCS games and will represent the Big 12 very well.

Everybody knows we lost to LongHorns, we have not ignored that fact But look at OU's winning history....all the teams OU beat is BCS ranked under 12.....and looking at wiining score for last 4 games it was always 60 plus.....

It's not the BCS, it's the Big 12. Actually, it could come down to a OU/UT national championship and I hope it does so the Sooners can shut all you Texas fans up.

First Dale you bone head The Cotton bowl is half way between both schools( no home field for either ).By the way it is U.T, not t.u. YOU SEEM TO HAVE MOST THINGS BACKWARDS. Second Mack has style taking out starter (thats when ou made some points) instead of running up point. Shame on ou for running up point leaving in starters. Lack of style if you ask most mormal folks. TT did the same to make their Qb's look good. Colt can get it done it 3-3 1/2 qts, the others need 4 qts to try and keep up with him.
No I did not do to a Big 12 school but Texas should be ahead of ou.
The Orange Bowl is a sham this year. That is a shame for the player that really should be there.
NCAA needs a real playoff system that is fair.

To Keith: Calling OU blowU shows a great deal of immaturity on your part. I can think of a lot of things to call UT but I won't because I am not that kind of person. You may as well have 45-35 tatooed across your forehead because that's all you seem to have stuck in your head. The stats don't lie--do a reality check. 45-35 DON'T mean nothing at this point. OU has lost several times in the past and they and their fans just move on to the next game with great anticipation. Theirs a lesson to be learned here today dear boy----DON'T EVER UNDER ESTIMATE OU AND ITS FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not only did TEXAS BEAT OU but they also BEAT MISSOURI whom they will be playing for the "championship"

ut beat ou head to head on neutral ground and so what if we lost to tech it was in lubbock for cryin out loud but whatever texas won every game except one and ou won every game except one which they lost to texas. ut got robbed, sooners suck end of story.
HOOK EM HORNS

It's not fair to the players and coaches to prepare and win games for them to not matter. Whats even worse... to watch a championship game between two teams that you BEAT !! wow 1st degree Felony THEFT by the BCS.

if ut loses to a second rate team like tt they dont deserve a national championship

p.s. ou rocks

This is a crime! OK lost to UT on a neutral site and have beat Missouri, too! Yes lost to TT in the last second at their home field and UT had the worst half. OK had no excuess, they got beat by the better team. BCS needs to go away and a playoff needs to be occur with the top 16 teams at the end of the season with the best poll system designed to be in the best interest to the players that play their hearts out!

Texas Tech 39 Texas 33, Texas 45 OU 35, OU 65 Texas Tech 21, Texas Tech 39 Texas 33, Texas 45 OU 35, OU 65 Texas Tech 21....it goes round and round and round forever. It's a very simple 3 way tie but the third team factor confuses the Longhorns. Everything is about OU to them so they can't understand why OU is going to the title game if they were beat by Texas. Head to head is the be all end all to them, unless they're cornered with explaining why they deserve to go to the championship game ahead of Tech, then they (including their coach) start explaining why head to head doesnt always matter. Their complaints have nothing to do with fairness, to them fair is whatever is in the best interest of Texas.

if ut loses to a second rate team like tt they dont deserve a national championship

p.s. ou rocks

Unlike many of u longhorn fans I respect ou and they are a great team... But to the longhorns they did get ripped off the devotion of their fans is incredible! I cant change anything but Texas handled OU very well in the cotton bowl and beat them by 10 and lost to tech in a desperation pass to crabtree in the last second and let me remind u that texas suffered injuries and played a very good game that could have been ended but the freshman safety Gideon dropped an int that was very simple.. OU played a beat up tech team coming off a stretch of physical games just pointing out these things to show u sooners that their argument is weak and Texas is a much more complete team... Suck that sooners... Hook'em baby

Unlike many of u longhorn fans I respect ou and they are a great team... But to the longhorns they did get ripped off the devotion of their fans is incredible! I cant change anything but Texas handled OU very well in the cotton bowl and beat them by 10 and lost to tech in a desperation pass to crabtree in the last second and let me remind u that texas suffered injuries and played a very good game that could have been ended but the freshman safety Gideon dropped an int that was very simple.. OU played a beat up tech team coming off a stretch of physical games just pointing out these things to show u sooners that their argument is weak and Texas is a much more complete team... Suck that sooners... Hook'em baby

Okay, I do understands Texas is pissed, but think about this. In the PROs two teams may play twice in a year and the outcome may be different each time, we all know on any given day any team can win or get beat by a team that may not be as good! Texas Tech barley beat UT, but we killed TTU! Look at the strength of schedule, OU beat better teams! If we get beat in the Big 12 game TU is playing for the National Championship, so you all can become Mizzo fans for a week, just like I became a UT fan when you played USC, because I hate them!!!!

Okay a commit to an earlier UT party boy because he could not have graduated from any Big 12 School! We never leave our starters in, most of the games this season our starters were out of the game midway through the third quarter, most of the points scored on us came after the starters on defense were out, that is how we do it here in Sooner Land, you see when you hang a half a hundred on an opponent by half hence the word "Sooner" you get to play your second and third team players early in the game so just because UT can't do that against anyone you should shut you Texas Trap! OU Rocks and UT Squawks!

Ok. I am SO tired of this head to head crap! When UT lost to Tech their head to head arguement went out the window. In my mind the head to head wins should not have been looked at AT ALL since everyone cancelled each other out. You can't put UT ahead of OU since they won without putting Tech ahead of UT since they won. Simple as that. Therefore, looking at strength of schedule and game scores is the only way to sort this mess out...

With that said, OU deserves to be going to the big 12 title game. Texas has conveniently forgotten that they LOST to Tech! Tech should be whining just as much as UT in my mind...Except the system the way it is and lets just hope OU can finally pull off a BCS win!

All this Big 12 cry me a river nonsense is a mute subject. Florida will blow out any team they pick from the Big 12 right after they blow out Alabama. I agree the BCS is nothing more than a money making system of Bull$#!%! There has got to be a better way. As for this year It's clear that Florida and Oklahoma are the two hottest teams in the nation as of late, hands down. The Heisman is between Bradford and you guessed it, Tebow! So the BCS can bring it on with any of the top five and Florida will likely dominate them. Florida has the best special teams play in the nation right now and I know you Big 12 fans can feel Tebow and that high scoring, beat you up offense and defense coming! Florida is the best all around team in the nation right now. Sad to say even with a less than stellar overall SEC the Big 12 is still overrated. Three years of SEC dominance is looming close by. Good luck!!

all u texas fans crying,if u feel that way then texas tech should go ahead of texas.ou did what they had to do and ended up on top.

Unfortunatley class doesn't count in the BCS ratings. Style points in class and respect aren't a factor, they are Mac Brown traits. Unlike Stoops at OU and Leach at TT, they've kept their starters in the entire game or almost the entire game for pretty much all of their games. Of course you can run up 60 points when you do that. UT would've scored 60+ had they kept their starters in.

For we UT fans, just remember at how OU was beaten by Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl (laughable) and in OU's last National Championship game, they were annihilated by LSU (embarrasing). I guess the Big 12 and the BCS cronies want to see OU embarrass themselves again.

What did UT do in their last National Championship game, UT 41 - USC 38! In their last bowl game, they crushed ASU.

Politics doesn't have a place in College sports, but unfortunately we have to live with it. Bebe, the big 12 Commissioner doesn't do the Conference any favors either. Money talks, and so the bowl games will still be the primary focus, and not how to get the best two teams in the National Championship game.

OU would be the door mat of the Big 12 without Texas high school recruits.

When you have more Texans than Okies on your roster it says something about Oklahoma football.

Texas beat OU one on one on a neutral field. If Texas and OU were in the SEC, Texas would be in the championship game. The Big 12 needs to adopt SEC tiebreaker rules- if the teams that tied are within 5 BCS positions of each other, the head to head battle trumps.

Let's hope justice is served and Mizzou beats OU and Texas plays in the BCS championship game.

Hey Travis...The SEC hasn't ever seen Quaterback play like the Big 12 has. If either OU or UT meets Florida in the big dance, but wait, Florida would still have to beat Bama, they'll feel way more power than what Jevon Snead (former Longhorn) gave them when he beat them this year. By the way, Meyer likes to keep his starters in for most of the game as well. They love the style points and stats. Florida would have a really rough time in the Big 12 South!!!

Thats some crap! Florida would beat anyone of them. Wait till we whoop up on Alabama and claim our throne!

Mack Brown regarding OU "Head to head should be the deciding factor"...

Mack Brown regarding Texas Tech "Head to head should not be the deciding factor"...

Basically they want the 3 way tie rule to be whatever favors them.

I'm sure Deloss Dodds is already planning the next round of text message blasts to the media, another airplane flyover, and Mack Browns call in to next weeks Big 12 Championship game.

OU takes it's 3rd Big 12 title in a row next saturday, deal with it.

As an outsider reading all of these comments I find it interesting that nobody has pointed out that had OU lost to either TT or OSU, Tech would be going to KC. I am sure UT fans were all pulling for OU in both of those games. I think all three of these teams have a legitimate claim to who should represent the Big 12 South in KC.

As for UT's last second loss to TT. Keep in mind that UT only lead in that game for 1 minute and 28 seconds. To claim that they got beat on the last play of the game is a little misleading. They were outplayed for most of that game.

Are you kidding me? Two teams that Texas beat are playing for the Big 12 Championship? I have yet to read any logical explanation that trumps victory on the field of play. You can make a good argument for any team on paper. But the games are not played on paper, at least not in the SEC.

If the Big 12 wants to be the best conference in the country, they need to be as good in the league office as they are on the field. Heck, if Florida or Alabama beats the Big 12 champ, did they really beat the best team in the Big 12? Good luck to Mizzou. At least they won their division on the field.

Steve Big 12 Fan. Be careful about knocking another state. One would have to ask why so many Texas kids would want to leave Texas and go somewhere else to school if Texas is such a great place.

As someone who is not an OU or UT fan, it is amazing to see how UT fans continue to say "I don't understand how a team (UT) can be ranked behind another team (OU) when UT beat OU on a neutral field?" News flash, The rankings took into account that game...AND ALL THE OTHER GAMES TOO! How can so many people be so freaking dumb. If UT had lost four games this year, but still beat OU, and that was OU's only loss, should UT still be ranked ahead of OU? Of course not. College football has always had, and always will have a flawed system. If UT would hae been ranked ahead of OU, all the Sooner fans would be asking "how is OU ranked behind UT when OU waxed TT and UT lost to TT?"

There is a 3 way tie, and each team can say they beat the team the other lost to. So if you say, hey, we beat you, just remember, hey, the other team beat the guys who beat you. And if you have complaints about how your home coach decides how to score points (or not score points)... Try writing to the school about it, or even to the coach. I'm sure there's a reason that they are coach and you are not. I understand that it doesnt look fair, but if you go by head to head, then you got to remember, that ou beat the team that beat texas. And so it is an infinite loop of everybody beating the team that beat the other team. each team had 1 loss. So if UT fans want to complain, then how do they suggest solving this dilemna ? If all you can say is "my team's better than yours", then you probably belong in kindergarten where kids say "my daddy can beat up your daddy". BCS takes into account more than 1 game. Can UT fans say they took into account more than 1 game ?

There is a 3 way tie, and each team can say they beat the team the other lost to. So if you say, hey, we beat you, just remember, hey, the other team beat the guys who beat you. And if you have complaints about how your home coach decides how to score points (or not score points)... Try writing to the school about it, or even to the coach. I'm sure there's a reason that they are coach and you are not. I understand that it doesnt look fair, but if you go by head to head, then you got to remember, that ou beat the team that beat texas. And so it is an infinite loop of everybody beating the team that beat the other team. each team had 1 loss. So if UT fans want to complain, then how do they suggest solving this dilemna ? If all you can say is "my team's better than yours", then you probably belong in kindergarten where kids say "my daddy can beat up your daddy". BCS takes into account more than 1 game. Can UT fans say they took into account more than 1 game ?

Stingraymo Texas kids go to other schools because they don't want to ride the bench behind other great Texas players. There is only room for so many players. If you had a son that was a quarterback would he have go to Texas with Colt McCoy playing there? Why would he. He wouldn't have gotten to play. Seems a playoff system is the only fair way to resolve these matters in deciding who is higher based on tied records. One team with a final win and then there is no justified whining on either side. Unless the refs make a bad call LOL.

First things First ...
FACT ... UT did infact beat OU earlier in the year
FACT ... TT did infact beat UT earlier in the year
FACT ... OU did infact beat TT earlier in the year

So, based on that we go to the tie breakers of the Big 12
Which just happens not to look at head to head on a 3 way tie
It took the 5th tie breaker to deside who would win the Big 12 South

Texas just wants to make up the rules as they go, although it was fine earlier in the season ... Texas just wants to reward those who would play easier out of the division teams ... and softer schedules ... That would make sense ... UT will probably play the Cleveland Auto High School Next Year and claim that win is just as good as OU playing a team like USC or even Florida ...
Head to Head had nothing to do with the 3 way tie ...
Case Closed!!!

Hell ya TX got screwed, it should be TX and OU in a fair world.

Ok so OU jumped Texas but if you look at all the games these two teams have played this year you can see who was the most dominate, crying about it is just childish and very uninformed. There is no reason to be poor losers. I believe this was the right choice and in my opinion Texas Tech should be ranked above Texas also.

I am not suprised by Oklahoma jumping Texas, I think mostly it's due to all the media attention in favor of Oklahoma. Texas deffinetly handled Oklahoma when they played. The fact is both teams are great, but when the both had there chance they faulterd. oklahoma gets the benefit of playing some big games on t.v. at the end of the year winning in impressive fashion. I don't root for either team and I really dont like Texas, but in my opinion I feel they should represent the big 12 south against Missouri, Go Huskers.....

I cannot believe that the Big 12 bases their decision on the BCS standings to decide a tie. First off Texas lost their one game to #1 ranked Tech by one play. Tech now can barely beat Baylor. And we already know OU LOST to Texas on a neutral field 45-35. That should tell it all. TEXAS SHOULD BE IN THE BIG 12 TITLE GAME AND STILL #2 IN THE BCS. Through the computers out next year!!!!!!!!!

Take better care of your own business next year texas, you needed OU's help down the stretch for you to even tie Tech for the South.

What would be funny is if texas and mack cry enough to change the tiebreaker rules for next year and then sometime in the future they lose a tiebreaker because of the rule they got changed.

The poor texas fans whine as much as their coach. The problem is endemic to austin. This land of fruits are so far left and liberal that they expect entitlements to everything and can not get their big heads around the fact that you have to earn things in life. They had an opportunity but failed to get the job done. They played a powder puff schedule that caught up with them. They failed to stop Tx Tech from scoring a game winning drive. They simply failed to execute. The only thing they have shown is their ability to whine like a spoiled snot nose kid on the playground. Grow up or go home.

I am sick and tired of hearing all of my Texas friends whine about the BCS standings. I'm sicker still of all the idiots who are just OU haters. The real issue is who is playing better football right now? I don't think UT would want to meet OU on any field right now or put a different way, today OU would be favored against Texas on any field. If Texas had beaten Tech, there would be no debate or discussion. Fact is, they trailed most of the game, climbed back in it late and still lost. They did not beat OSU convincingly at home and did what they should have done to A&M although they struggled early. If the world were perfect, OU and Texas would be playing for the Big 12 Championship with the winner moving on to meet the SEC champion in the National Championship game. We need an 8 team playoff; drop two of the non-conference games and the conference championships, then let the teams settle it on the field. Utah and Boise State deserve a chance to put up or shut up as both are undefeated. That would be fair. For you Longhorn whiners out there, go get your blankee, find a corner to sit in and suck your thumbs until next year if all this crying is the best you can do. xzrwjq

I grew up loving and repecting big 12 football, but he is right. Get a playoff, fix the problem. There is no way mizzou is going to beat OU face it! GO OU...better yet but about the BIG 12? Did our teams this year show them or what!

IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR TEXAS IN 2009! PLEASE READ!!


BEAT TECH

Texas should play Alabama in the Should'veTakenCareofBusiness Bowl. Let's hope Mack can prepare them for Ohio State. For their whining to have any premise, they'd better win the Fiesta, and by a good margin, too.

Hey, why does everyone hate Texas so much? It's funny how everyone comes here to recruit. When you play the longhorns, you play the state of Texas. How many college teams can say that? Let OU fans talk, but tell them to think alittle harder about who is on that team. It's only the orange and white game when Texas @ OU play!!!!!!!!

Hey, why does everyone hate Texas so much? It's funny how everyone comes here to recruit. When you play the longhorns, you play the state of Texas. How many college teams can say that? Let OU fans talk, but tell them to think alittle harder about who is on that team. It's only the orange and white game when Texas @ OU play!!!!!!!!

Texas Tech what a joke. Oh and by the way Texas won and the Sooners lost their 5th BCS bowl. All these other comments on this page are history. Wow Texas Tech it's going to be a bad year.

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