Van Allen: we had three-way sex on R. Kelly's basketball court

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Lisa Van Allen's testimony lived up to its explosive billing this lunchtime. She's still being questioned, but she's already dropped several bombshells, saying she had three-way sex with Kelly and the alleged victim in this case at least three times.

Van Allen said she had met R. Kelly at the video shoot for "Home Alone," in which she appeared, in late 1997 or early 1998. Kelly's cousin, "Blacky" invited her to join Kelly in Kelly's trailer, she said. She talked with Kelly and ended up having "intercourse" with him in the trailer, she said. She was 17 at the time, she said.

The pair exchanged numbers and Van Allen soon visited Kelly in Chicago, eventually giving up her job in Atlanta to be with him full time. Kelly paid for her to stay in hotels and she spent most of her time with him at the studio, she said.

Van Allen said she went on tour with Kelly and was picked out of the crowd at the end of each show to perform simulated sex with him on stage at each show's finale.

In late 1998, she testified, Kelly took her to his former home on the North Side of Chicago, where she met the alleged victim in this case for the first time. Kelly taped them while they had three-way sex in his "log-cabin" room, she said. That's the same room he's alleged to have filmed the tape in this case. Kelly told her the alleged victim was 16, she said.

On another occasion, following an awards ceremony in Chicago at which Kelly had been honored, Van Allen, Kelly and the alleged victim in this case again had videotaped three-way sex. But this time they did it on Kelly's basketball court.

"He took up his camera and we took off our clothes and we all had sex again," she said. Van Allen said Kelly stopped the sex session after she broke down crying. "I didn't want to do it," she said.

On a third occasion, sometime in 2000, Kelly, Van Allen and the alleged victim romped again, this time in his trailer at the video shoot for "Woman's Threat," Van Allen said. Kelly and the alleged victim ran naked to hide after somebody knocked on the door and disturbed them, she said.

Van Allen said Kelly carried a "duffel bag" containing his home-made porn wherever he went.

"He carried it everywhere," she said. "If we was at the studio, it was in the studio with him; if he was at Hoops (his gym) it would be at Hoops with him...the bag would follow him."

Van Allen confessed she had stolen R. Kelly's Rolex watch from a Georgia hotel in 2001. She said she had been granted state and federal immunity from prosecution for child porn in return for her testimony.

Asked why she had come forward to testify, she said, "It's the right thing to do."

She said she was not there when the tape at the center of this case was made, but identified the alleged victim and Kelly as being on that tape.

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Man, o man....Its over! Kelly is going to jail after all!

Wheres her proof to back her claims up?

Anybody can get on the stand and make a story like this up.

This is the most pathetic thing I have seen in years. People have know for years that Robert Kelly was a pedophile. Why has it taken so long for prosecutors to secure enough evidence to convict him. He is a very stupid person. Although he has obvious musical talent, Mr. Kelly can barely read and surrounds himself with alot of quasi-thug types of inviduals.

I partially blame all the parents that have allowed this to go unprosecuted because of his fame. I hope he gets the maximum sentence and does at least 40 years in jail.

The Story sound so unreal you can see that she's only testifing for the deal they giving her. There are so many people comimg out of the wood work's. Just to say I had sex with RKelly. One thing your forgetting his a Star!!!!!!!!!!!!and his's a man. They won't the stardom from the paper and the cast I DON'T beleive Him. Too much he say She say the cast is very weak.

Yeah, I just want the person who made the above comment to go back to school and pay attention this time. Sleeping in school is not good.

I KNOW THAT HE WISH HE COULD FLY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-)

Fans of Kelly find it hard to believe the guy is guilty..look at his history starting with Aayilah...Age Ain't Nothing but a Number?...follow the evidence...

This story sounds bogus....If she cried saying "I dont want to do this"...then why did she continue to have sex with Kelly and the teen? I'm not saying that Kelly is right for what he did...I'm just saying they need better and concrete evidence...if she wasnt there at the taping of the alleged victim, and they dont have proof of the so called "tapes" of the 3 way encounters, then she's actually not a witness. She's just somebody up there making up stories...until proven true.

First of all if she testified in 1998 and continued to have sexsual relations with R.Kelly in 2000 then shame on her. I
personally think yea he probably had sex with her but Van Allen
is pretty much making her and her parents look bad.

This sounds like a case of Payback! All these years, its the right thing to do? The right time to do anything would have been the moment he suggested the trio act. The prosecution is dumb as hell, like Kelly's attorneys said, everybody who has testified about seeing this tape at jump should be prosecuted. First, she is a thief, she should be prosecuted for stealing, so what he wouldn't pay her so she steals. People have gone crazy in this case.

I think these girls are just to balme as he is. They know how old he is and maybe lied about there age. The only reason why these girls are even coming out of the wood work is because they think that they are goint to get so money out of this. Because some other girl. Was paid off. Now if none of these others girls got paid. Then nobody would have said anything. And the girl Van Allen. She should be chargeed also for having sex with a underage girl. What makes her better then R Kelly. She was getting down. These girls need to learn that these men don't care about them. If they are willing to give them sex. Then they are goint to take it. Don't cry about it later. You wasn't crying when your legs where up in the air.

I DONT BELIEVE IT.
THERE ARE TOO MANY DIFFERENT LIES TAKING PLACE.
I CAN MAKE UP A STORY AND GET ON STAND TOO AND EVERYBODY WOULD BELIEVE ME. IT SOUNDS FACT AND UNREAL.

R. Kelly gonna come out with another single...."It Wasnt Me On That Rug"

For the person who said these girls are just as much to blame as he is, I say it is people like YOU who are to blame. Yes, these may have been some fast tailed lil girls, but, HE was the adult in the situation. RKELLY should know better. It is a sad state of our times when anyone can blame a rape victim for being raped. When society, such as the poster who blames the girls, says that you are accountable for the actions of a grown man, it is truly a sick world. In fact, these delisional people who proclaim his innocence are really worse then R Kelly because he is sick and you all are sicker. If it were your niece, sister, daughter, cousin, etc that he was pissing and ejaculating on, I just wonder if you would feel the same way. Hmmm.

I believe her story totally. Everybody in Chicago knows Kelly likes the young girls and the younger, the better. He's a Freaky McNasty for sure.

I REALLY BELIEVED THAT ANY FEMALE R KELLY COME INTO SEXUAL CONTACT WITH, KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING. R KELLY IS TALENTED AND GIFTED. EVERY ONE LIKES 2 HAVE SEX. MOST GIRLS R GONNA LIE ABOUT THEIR AGE JUST 2 BE IN THE PRESENCE OF A SINGER/RAPPER. TRUTH BE TOLD, IF R KELLY EVER GAVE ME A CHANCE I WOULD TAKE IT, WHETHER I AM 15 OR 21. SO WHOEVER THE ALLEGED FEMALES THAT CLAIM IT WAS THEM IN THE VIDEO, SHE KNEW THAT SHE WAS GONNA BE IN A VIDEO!

So funny how life goes. When you're on top everyone loves you when you're down all everyone could think of is the bad you've done. I'm willing to bet a very viable limb that all they nay-sayers either have several copies of R. Kelly's many albums or at best your girlfriend, wife, or daughter have the CD's you don't. Instead of blaming R. Kelly for doing things that only certain individuals can do namely athletes, "ballers", and lyrical artists which is have sex with a lot of nice women, how about you blame the young ladies parents for not holding up their end of the bargain as far as sex education is concerned!!!

He definitely made some mistakes, and I'm not going to act like I'm better than he, nor will I pretend not 2 be envious of his fame and many sexual liasions, but I do wish him luck and hope he emerge from this a more spiritual and talented human being.

Every bellhop at the old Nieko Hotel,across from Harry Careys knew of R.Kelly's taste for underage girls. the hotel was struggling to stay open in those days and looked the other way.

Sorry, I'm missing something. When is it OK for a 13 year old to have sex with a grown man? You talk about sex education? He's a pedophile! You're blame everyone but R. Kelly. If it was your next door not so famous neighbor having sex and pissing on an underage girl you would be outraged! Would it be OK for your daughter to have sex at 13 or 14 with him Rita? Just because he can sing and is "talented" that makes it OK? WHAT ARE YOU MISSING? Like someone said, we all know R Kelley's history and no one is surprised. He was very stupid to do it and even more ignorant to video tape it! No surprise with the the witnesses. He surrounded himself with young girls he could manipulate and use. And Tiffany, he had sex with a little girl NOT a nice woman! Let the trial go forth and if it's proven he did it - GOOD BYE R K! Don't Drop the Soap! By the way I'm Afro-Amer & DID NOT see the video tape. That outside the courtroom is known as child pornography!

This is a lot of he said she said stuff.its with a female priest has been doing young boys for years you don,t see them in court.its sad if he,s doing young girls.but this stuff has happen and will happen as long as this world is here.there,s all kinds of freaks with many desire.most men has this sick thought of young women.i blame the parents if it happen.if you hate him hate the priest and 85 percent of men.

I am disappointed that so many people on this post are blaming these young girls for what happened. Regardless if they lied about their age, were permiscous, stepped to him first or whatever, Mr. Kelly was the adult in this situation and should have exercised self-restraint. However, with Mr. Kelly, he knew the ages of all his past victims. If you have seen the victim, you would agree that she can't pass for 18.
Yes I am certain the girls knew this behavior was innappropriate, but that's why there are laws in place to protect children, because they are not 100% able to make sound decisions on their own behalf.
Mr. Kelly is a SEXUAL PREDATOR that uses his fame and wealth to abuse young girls. Yes he could find nasty legal aged women to pee on, but that ruins the mind control game for him.
Predator's prey on the vulnerability and weakness in others. Who knows what these young girls have experienced in their past, or how he may have manipulated/intimidated them into believing this is what they YES(Ms. VAN ALLEN)too..had to do. So don't be so quick to blame the woman when clearly the man is out of line. This harsh attitude towards these victims have alot to do with why black men don't respect black women. STOP giving creeps like R. Kelly a pass! He has been boasting about his deviant sexual behavior for years and his belief that he is above the law.
If he was peeing on your daughter, cousin, niece. I'm sure you would want him locked up forever.

I bet this would not have happened had R. Kelly not been a star. What is amazing is people will do and say anything to take a piece of a stars money and that is a fact. Book deals, movie deals and dollar signs are on the mind of those people who seem to point fingers at stars. People are so quick to say the man is this, and the man is that, but how does any one really know what this man is capable of!. Sure he likes to have sex, but if it was truly with a 13 year old then he screwed up, and should pay the price with some jail time. My thoughts are, if he did have sex with an under age girl, what in the world was she doing in this mans place? If there was another adult present then that person should be charged as well and skip the plea, its over zealous work by prosecutors to make a name for themselves. If they have a video that was creditable, then why did it take them so long to bring him to trial? All of a sudden there is a witness, and now there is a case! Give me a break! Its time to sort out the facts, and stop making a circus out of this, so those involved can make some money. My suspicion is this, money, and recognition, seem to be the spot light!

I don't know R Kelly nor this young woman (victim), so I will not judge either. I know what the media wants me to believe, but I learned long ago you can't believe everything you read, see or hear. However, I know what a predator will do, hunt. I know a child starving for attention will find it, good or bad. I know busy and unfit parents leave their children vulnerable to the hunt. Whose at fault, your guess is as good as mine.

Will you people open your eyes ? I mean was this ladys testimony really necessary for all to believe that it was R.Kelly in that tape look at the evidence, It's his old house,He knows the girl in question,Looks like him, Looks like her, All of family and friends and R. Kellys own worker said its her,Oh yea and the defense about couldn't be R. Kelly because the guy in the video has no mole, NOT they see the mole on the man in the video. If memory serves me correctly I do believe that shortly after these charges in chicago were filed, They raided his house in Florida and found digital images of him having sex with YOUNG GIRLS but somehow he manage to get those charges dropped, the countless young girls who haved sued him for having underage sex with them, oh and let us not forget the most publicize of underage partners does the name AALIYAH ring a bell people? Do you remember the song She's got that vibe ? "Little cute Aaliyahs got it" how old was she then 12 ? "Seems Like Shes Ready" hmm... I aint no attorney,but even I could get a conviction on this guy.. R. Kelly love your music pimp, but I am gonna have to rock your old music just like I do with Tupac. You have been getting away with this for far to long and all of you damn people that continue to defend him are basically the reason why he hasn't stopped the brother has a problem and I think it goes back to his childhood where if you go to his second album where he says all the girls used say no Rob but after he got paid they say yes Rob you go boy. So he is just trying to make up for all those no's. Unfortunately this is going to cause him his freedom, Johnny Cochran couldn't get you out of this mess my brother, The it ain't me it ain't her defense is starting to lose steam, WHAT ELSE YOU GOT ?

To the above post who mentioned rape...These women were not raped,it was consensual and for Van Allen to claim "crying" during the 3-way session, why did she continue in the first place? Albeit these stories appear to be bogus, seeing that since 1998 she's been ashamed and a victim of a pedophile, why come out and testify now? Seems very non-coincidental to me.

I hope he goes to jail 'til the day he dies. He's a freak, lying pedophile. He continues to make songs glorifying his love of sex for the sake of sex. Send his sorry a@#$ to jail.

This is a very funny tipe of a girl who lies and steal from rapers When you're on top everyone loves you when you're down all everyone could think of is the bad you've done. I'm willing to bet a very viable limb that all they nay-sayers either have several copies of R. Kelly's many albums or at best your girlfriend, wife, or daughter have the CD's you don't. Instead of blaming R. Kelly for doing things that only certain individuals can do namely athletes, "ballers", and lyrical artists which is have sex with a lot of nice women, how about you blame the young ladies parents for not holding up their end of the bargain as far as sex education is concerned!!!

How can this be true?? I thought R. Kelly was the Gay Rapper. I mean, he all those songs about coming out of the closet. Gosh, this just throws me for a loop.

The people who don't believe R.Kelly is @ fault are oviously fans & idiots! Question? If it was your child how would you feel? For the record, these females are not gold diggers. If you follwed the story. The tape in circut was stole, place on the internet, authorities got involed etc. Don't make us look bad, READ PEOPLE before you pass judgement.

THE SAD PART ABOUT MOST OF YOUR COMMENTS IS THAT YOU THINK IT'S OK FOR A GROWN MAN TO HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD. I DONT CARE IF SHE DOES KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOIND, HE'S AN ADULT, CANT GET A WOMAN HIS OWN AGE? (NO, BECAUSE HE'S A PREDATOR).

MOST OF YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHAT A PEDOPHILE IS ALL ABOUT, HOW THEY GET YOUNG GIRLS TO TRUST THEM SO THEY CAN MOLD THEM INTO WHAT THEY WANT THEM TO BE. IT'S A SHAME THAT THIS DAY AND AGE YOU GUYS ARE STILL BLAMING THE VICTIMS.

WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL LIKE IF YOUR 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTERS OR SISTERS FELL VICTIM TO AN OLDER MAN? WOULD IT BE OK BECAUSE SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER?

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, PEOPLE.

R Kelly is talented and has enough fame to have any woman AND NOT girl he want how about the ladies he sings with they are prettie can't he pick one? Come to think of his children the fact that two of them are young ladies how will they live life and look at men if they dad's behaviour is like that of a predator. I like him alot his style, music and all mr kelly really needs to change if the charges against him are true.

Where are these children's parents? They should be the one to blame also!!!! Did these girls even graduate from high school? Where they still attending school (or utilized all their time with Kel...)?

To everyone that thinks people make up all these stories, I can promise you,most of it is real. I live about 20 minutes from robert kelly. I had met him at his Rockstar video shoot and ha met him right away. At the end of the day he exchanged number with me. We started seeing eachother everyday. Its about 9 months later and we still talk daily. All the stuff ive heard girls and guys say is true. Hes said weird things to me and asked to do weird things to me, i simply said no and we moved on. I think robert is a great man he just has alot of issues. People cant blame him for wanting to make his fantasys come true. People can easily say no the things they dont want to do. I can honestly say I have been threw some bad times and r.kelly has been there to help me out right away!

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