By Michael O'Brien

Two former Simeon stars move on

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Tim Flowers and Kevin Johnson, two key members of Simeon's back-to-back city and state championship teams, have left Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Johnson has resurfaced at Mineral Area JC, but Flowers intentions are unknown.

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Wow.. Whats up with these last year high school players who enroll into these colleges and then transfer to a jr college....

Stovall from marshall did the same thing... He went to Oregon St. to mineral jr college...

This example shows kids they really need to do their homework on colleges before they commit.....

I'm sure mineral college is happy...LMAO

shout out to both of them sometimes you gotta move on from situations you just gotta keep it moving i wish both of them all the best keep yo heads up

YOUNGSTERS THESE DAYS TRANSFER BECAUSE EITHER THE SCHOOL ISN'T
WHAT THEY EXPECTED, OR THE COACH AND THE PLAYER ARE NOT ON THE
SAME PAGE. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND KIDS TODAY ARE IN THE
IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION BUSINESS. SOME DON'T EVEN CARE IF THE
TEAM WINS OR NOT, IT'S I WANT TO PLAY NOW OR I'M GOING TO
TRANSFER. THE KID RYAN HARE DID A GOOD THING BY SAYING NO TO
OREGON STATE, THE COACH JUST GOT FIRED. MARK MY WORDS ALOT OF
PLAYERS WHO HAVE ORALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS WON'T EVEN GO
THERE IF COACH WEBBER LOSES THAT JOB, WHICH I HOPE DOESN'T
HAPPEN, I MET HIM, HE IS REALLY A NICE GUY.

Basketball man,

Maybe I am misinterpreting your statement, but the kids should not only do their homework on the college they choose to go to, but they should do their homework. Maybe if STUDENT-athletes were pushed more by their coaches to suceed in the classroom, not just be eligible, these things would not happen.

Maybe it is just a coincidence, but I did notice that a lot of the college freshman dropouts/"transfers to JC's" are from the Chicago Public league schools (the non-magnet schools, D Rose being the exception).
Maybe the IHSA should look into that. Afterall, the IHSA 'claims' to exist to 'support education first'.

Just an observation,

Phil

Well I was told that Mike Stovall didn't want to go to Oregon State in the first place that Lamont Bryant just about made him go there. That goes to show you that high school coaches still have some control over a kids recruiting. Thats why Ryan Hare decommited after visiting there. He was told not to come there that it would be a bad situation fo him.

Maybe these young men lacked the maturity coach Jeter was trying to instill in them. I think the fit was right but Jeter has shown he doesn't play around. Would love to have him as a coach.

High school kids are eligible to play as long as they don't have THREE F's in any given week....two are fine...just not three! Hmmmmm ..... Need I say more?

1. YOU CAN'T DO HOMEWORK ON A SCHOOL. BECAUSE DURING THE
RECRUITING PHASE, ITS LIKE BEING ON YOUR HONEYMOON.
2. THE COACHES DID THEIR JOB IF THE YOUNG MEN GRADUATED FROM
HIGH SCHOOL, AND RECEIVED A SCHOLARSHIP.
3. DON'T BLAME THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THE TEACHERS ARE
UNDERPAID, AND OF COURSE THE COACHES ARE WAY UNDERPAID.
4. THE IHSA IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION, DON'T FORGET FOUR DIFFERENT
CLASSES THIS YEAR. FOUR DIFFERENT CHAMPIONS.
5. YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE CONCENTRATING ON THEIR BOOKS.
YOU CAN'T BOUNCE A BALL FOREVER.
6. WELCOME BACK COACH ANTHONY LONGSTREET FROM CRANE. A GOOD MAN,
A HELPER OF YOUNG MEN. HE HAS PLAYERS AT KANSAS, INDIANA, TOLEDO,
AND OF COURSE TONY ALLEN OF THE BOSTON CELTICS, WILL BYNUM PLAYS
IN ISRAEL.
7. CONTINUED SUCCESS TO ALL COACHES IN ILLINOIS, I KNOW WHAT
YOU GO THROUGH DAILY. WHAT SIMEON HIGH SCHOOL AND COACH SMITH
DID THE LAST TWO SEASONS, WILL HAVE PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS
ALONG TIME.

PLEASE DON'T GIVE COACH JETER SO MUCH PUB. THESE KIDS ARE SMARTER
THAN YOU THINK. WHY WOULD 2 KIDS FROM THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL, GO TO
THE SAME COLLEGE AND THEN WANT TO LEAVE. WHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS FIRE. HEY SEND YOUR RELATIVE TO PLAY FOR HIM AND SEE HOW
IT WORKS OUT.

Phil Smith Jr,

First off, I like your first name.

That said, Any moraon can graduate from a high school that allows its 'superstars' to loaf around. Its amazing how many high school athletes do not last in college because they were allowed to pass high school classes without learning. Getting a high school degree from certain places does not mean much. All some of these coaches have to do is put pressure on the teachers to change grades and they will.
You mention all the great players to 'graduate' fro Crane under Longstreet. Maybe you can help me answer this question... how many of them lived (I mean really lived) in Crane's district?

Another question, how many successful 'non-athletes' has Crane produced in the last 25 years?
I can't name any. That says something about the school and a degree from that school.
Crane, just like Marshall,(King of old), Hales, and several others, is a basketball school. They recruit and teach basketball and not much else.
I do have to say there are teachers at these schools who are trying. Like the teacher at Marshall who told the kids to protest educational issues instead of basketball. But they are few and far between.

Phil

will bynum got arrested in tel aviv, israel... why?
tim flowers and a bunch of other juco kids are gonna end up at UIC with Tracy Dildy

TO THE OTHER PHIL, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
SPORTS, ISN'T THIS A SPORTS BLOG. I DON'T THINK THE
SCHOOLS YOU NAMED WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS.
THE MAIN POINT WITH HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETICS, IS THAT IF
YOU ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE AN ATHLETIC
SCHOLARSHIP, GET YOUR DEGREE EVEN IF IT TAKES MORE THAN
FOUR YEARS.
WILL BYNUM IS A GOOD PERSON.
UIC IS A GREAT UNIVERSITY.
TRACY DILDY IS A REALLY GOOD COACH AND MENTOR.
IN CLOSING I WOULD INVITE YOU TO VISIT ALL THE SCHOOLS
YOU MENTIONED, YOU WOULD FIND THE TEACHERS REALLY TEACH
AND THE STUDENTS FOR THE MOST PART ARE EAGER TO LEARN.
BY VISITING EACH SCHOOL YOU WILL GET YOUR ANSWER ABOUT
SUCCESSFUL NON-ATHLETES AT EACH SCHOOL.
ALSO THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES FOR ATTENDING A CHICAGO
PUBLIC SCHOOL.

Phil Smith Jr.,

First, I did say there are teachers at CPS schools who are trying.

Second, if there are no boundaries for attending a Chicago Public school, how come only the magnet schools and charter schools are considered "non-boundary" by the IHSA?

LAst, this is a high school sports blog. High school sports exist in conjunction with high SCHOOLS. Education always comes first (or at least, it is supposed to).

Phil

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