Taylor Bell on the Irish recruiting situation...
By obtaining oral commitments from defensive end Darius Fleming of St. Rita, linebacker Steve Filer of Mount Carmel and defensive lineman Sean Cwynar of Marian Central, according to recruiting analyst Tom Lemming of CSTV, the Irish have demonstrated that they are "back in business as a force in Chicago and the Chicago Catholic League after a 17-year absence."
"Since 1990, when Notre Dame signed Bryant Young (Bloom), Oliver Gibson (Romeoville), Pete Bercich (Providence) and Brian Hamilton (St. Rita), all consensus All-Americans, they were content with losing kids to Illinois and Michigan. They didn't dominate the Chicago area as they had for years under coach Lou Holtz," Lemming said.
He credits Notre Dame's new-found success to coach Charlie Weis, who is proving himself to be one of the leading recruiters in the country; assistant coach Rob Ianello, the architect of the Irish recruiting plan; and new assistant Corwin Brown, a Julian and Michigan grad who has many contacts in the Chicago area.
Fleming, Filer and Cwynar are among eight top 100 prospects in a class that ranks No. 1 in the nation. Notre Dame has 19 commitments to date, including 16 in the top 200. Filer's cousin is former All-America running back Jerome Heavens, who starred at Notre Dame in the 1970s.
The class is so deep and talented that the Irish don't have room for highly touted lineman Garrett Goebel of Montini because they already have commitments from five of the best defensive linemen in the country.
But Notre Dame, which doesn't figure to field a nationally ranked squad this fall, still is looking for talent. Weis is in the mix for two of the top 12 players in the nation--defensive lineman Marcus Forston of Miami, Fla., and wide receiver Michael Floyd of St. Paul, Minn.
The Irish also are recruiting at least four other top 100 players--wide receiver Brice Butler of Norcross, Geo., running back Ryan Williams of Manassas, Va., offensive lineman Trevor Robinson of Elkhorn, Neb., and linebacker Etienne Sabino of Miami, Fla.
Robinson is an interesting case study. He already has committed to Nebraska but visited Notre Dame and Michigan last week.



Comments
It tells me that Illinois must really stink!
Posted by: Mark | July 24, 2007 01:47 PM
It tells me they will underachieve for the next 4 or 5 years.
Posted by: Wicker Man | July 24, 2007 02:18 PM
It tells me to follow the money
Posted by: darryl m | July 24, 2007 10:04 PM
It tells me that you two knuckleheads should get off drugs and stay in school!
Posted by: Truth B. Told | July 24, 2007 10:08 PM
It means that we are finally getting back to where we were in the the late '80s. I could never figure out why we didn't go after Chicago hard as years past. Now if only Illinois basketball can recruit Chicago as well.
Peace
Posted by: Jeff | July 24, 2007 10:13 PM
Two things to remember. One is that Lemming always says that ND does well in recruiting, even when they do poorly. I would take his opinion with a grain of salt. Secondly, Chicago HS football is average at best next to FL, CA, OH, TX and other top states in the country. Offensive linemen are usually in abundance; athletes that succeed at high D1 level are far and few between(Simeon Rice).
Posted by: mike | July 25, 2007 06:48 AM
For all you people saying that Notre Dame's going to struggle or underachieve for the next four or five years is sadly mistaken Charlie Weis. This may be a down year but after this one's over with the recruits he's getting they will be in the hunt for a national championship in the near future.
Posted by: Michael | July 25, 2007 06:54 AM
We're back.
Posted by: Rob | July 25, 2007 09:49 AM
wow, lemming slurps Jabba the Coach. big surprise.
and what is with the 17 year absense hyperbole? didnt Holtz coach the domers until 1996? that was 11 years ago. so why did Holtz stop recruting the city then?
Posted by: Sean Thomas | July 25, 2007 10:07 AM
Not that Demetrius Jones was a big recruit or anything 2 years ago out of Chicago...
It may be the Illinois fan in me, but I still think he made the wrong decision to believe that Weis' pro-style passing offense would keep him as QB.
Posted by: Ryan | July 25, 2007 10:25 AM
What it means is ND will beat Army-Navy-Air force-Marines-Indiana-and lose to Michigan or any other top 10 school, go to a BCS Bowl and get embarrassed again!!! OVERRATED... same with their Big fat ego-maniac coach.
Posted by: Bronzo | July 25, 2007 10:39 AM
What it says is that Illinois can't take Chicago kids for granted. That they have to work harder. I think that Coach Zook knows that and is doing better, Coach Weber is having a tougher time with the concept.
Posted by: Darrel | July 25, 2007 10:50 AM
I agree with Sean Thomas. Also Mr. Wiess also said that he would not recruit anymore QB's after Demetrius Jones and Zach Fraizer but that wasn't true because here comes Jimmy Clausen.
Posted by: Darrel | July 25, 2007 10:54 AM
Category: Number Please
a. How many bowl game losses in a row?
b. How many losses in a row to USC?
c. How many losses to Boston College?
Solution to (c)= Remove them from the schedule.
Posted by: Strutter | July 25, 2007 11:10 AM
Darrel, check the schedule before you post! Notre Dame is playing BC this year.
Posted by: Swol54 | July 25, 2007 11:48 AM
St. Rita - Pray For Us!
If Notre Dame wants to compete they need to continue recruiting from our State CHAMPIONS....
Posted by: Isaias Lechuga | July 25, 2007 11:59 AM
Sounds like sour grapes from most of the Illini fans here! Sorry guys, you had your "sun will shine on a dogs ass" day last year on signing day! Just for the record, I would rather have the number one class this season in exchange for Benn and Martez Wilson too! You guys take them, your horrible facilities, horrible uniforms, below average and insignificant team, and terrible coach and we'll call it even!
Posted by: Dan S | July 25, 2007 12:16 PM
Illinois is currently upgrading facilities to have the largest D1 weightroom in the world.
Posted by: Kevin | July 25, 2007 01:29 PM
I'm pretty sure Nebraska has the largest weight room and some of the best facilities.
Posted by: Swol54 | July 25, 2007 02:32 PM
It means the top 3 Chicago prospects are going to a close school that's actually winning recently (and pretty much always).
No doubt we are on the up rise, however, ND plays all it's games on NBC. That's huge publicity...
Posted by: Andrew | July 25, 2007 06:06 PM
There's a reason why ND has the number one class now...and had a great last 2. It's because the athletes recognize ND is on the rise and is their best bet for a ticket to play on Sundays. Recruits wouldn't be going there if they didn't believe in the program.
Posted by: Frank | July 26, 2007 04:42 AM
Tells us that ND is heading back to the top, 3 years in a row of excellant recruiting classes. As to ND always has a great recruiting class, see last two years of willingham, 58th and 61st. Great job Irish!
Posted by: richard | July 26, 2007 06:50 AM
if chic football is average compared to fl, oh, tx, & ca. why is it that Steve Filer has been offered 37 scholarships and he is ranked as a 5 star player which goes without saying he is ranking in the top 100?
Posted by: greg vessels | July 26, 2007 09:53 AM
mmmm in response to you greg....chicago football was considered average by the other guy, because it only has one steve filer. fl, tx, ca, and oh have many
Posted by: mike | July 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Mr. Strutter I did not post the blog about the schedule Bronzo did
Posted by: Darrel | July 26, 2007 11:34 AM
ND Stinks!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2007 03:50 PM
Hey Darrel (or is it your other brother Darrel), get a clue before you post again.
ND plays BC this year and is 15-9-1 against U$C (including 14 games in a row without a loss) in the last 25 games.
Oh and when is your favorite conference going to figure out how many member universities it has??
Posted by: zxcvb3369 | July 26, 2007 09:06 PM
First thing I see is that all of these guys are coming from a Catholic high school going and to a Catholic Univ. Tells me that meant something to them.
Filer had bloodlines, mentioned in the article.
The other 2 are D-lineman and UI brought in an outstanding DL crew last year. Playing time prolly meant more to Cwyner and Fleming.
I didn't read much into ND vs UI on this one. ND took some good kids that didn't see themselves playing into UIs immediate future.
Posted by: ray | July 27, 2007 08:55 AM
Weis said he wouldn't recruit any quarterbacks the same year as Jones and Frazer, not that he would never recruit any ever again. You're an idiot. Should we only have 2 QBs on the roster?
Posted by: mike | July 27, 2007 10:12 AM
illinois'e' has a joke of a football program
Posted by: rj | July 27, 2007 10:42 AM
I don't care how much you can't stand ND, they are heading in the right direction. All 3 guys are top talent in all of the recruiting rankings. Ill-Noise isn't. 3 good guys will not make your team. Your QB isn't good.
BTW - When ND is in a bowl game, they are always the lower ranked team. They should lose and, unfortunatly, they have been.
Posted by: Frank III | July 27, 2007 10:57 AM
boo hooo....looks like Illinois is gonna continue to suck for the near future. Oh well, you still have IU to beat in football, made you can enact some revenge against them before Eric Gordon lights you up for 40 in hoops! It's sad for you that ND will end up with more Big10 wins this year then Illinois will!
Posted by: Steve | July 27, 2007 11:04 AM
Weis did some good things with some very very mediocre/bad recruiting classes by Willingham. Sure there were some great college players in the mix but there wasn't much in the way of depth. Meyer turned down his dream job because he knew how much work there was to do and Florida was loaded. He walked into a winning situation. Weis didn't. Plus Weis didn't get to plug his kids into the offence yet. ND hasn't had back to back recruiting years like this since 86-87 and we all know what happened in 88. Bottom line is when ND is in the hunt its good for college football. Oh and by the way, there is no other place on earth that i would rather sign a 5 star LB from than Chicago!!!!!!!
Posted by: FRANK | July 27, 2007 12:11 PM
I love the post from the guy who claims that Illinois will have the largest weight room IN THE WORLD, why not just call it the Galaxy? That is SUPER DUPER COOL, MAN. I can see it now: "Illinois weight room wins the BCS Championship by a landslide. This proves the fact that good players and poor coaching mean nothing, but size of weightroom is king in the land of meat head." Shouldn't you be more worried about your mascot problems at U of I and be too concerned with Notre Dame's gridiron prowess?
Posted by: Pat | July 27, 2007 01:04 PM
Hey ND fans. Let's save our energy for arguments with fans of a legitimate school. Illinois? Sure they have no idea what they are talking about, but just let them have enjoy their weight room and forget about it.
Posted by: Bryan | July 27, 2007 03:34 PM
Don't be surprised if one of the three ends up decommitting before signing day.
Posted by: koolmoedee | July 27, 2007 03:53 PM
Bronzo --
Drop the "r" and "n" from your handle. It's more accurate. ND plays the toughest schedules in the nation year in and year out, unlike Big 10 teams that play 6 MAC teams every year.
ND is rebuilding this year. After that, it will be tough for ND haters. They should all commit suicide.
Posted by: greg bell | July 27, 2007 03:58 PM