The overwhelming majority of the best teams, best players and best coaches in the history of high school basketball in Illinois came from the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s, it says here. And when you examine the record books and scrapbooks, the evidence is compelling and convincing. But there's always room for an argument.
Many who responded to my initial blog about the most successful large-school programs in recent state history noted that the game was better in yesteryear, before the influence of summer leagues and AAU competition turned a team game into an ego trip or, as retired Simeon coach Bob Hambric described, "individualizing."
Here is a look at some of the other great programs and the players who made them great:
Thornton: LaMarr Thomas, Jim Ard, Melvin Ely, Lloyd Batts, Tracy Webster. But Thornton probably has produced more great players than any other program, from Lou Boudreau in the 1930s to Reggie Smith in 2009. While most programs, even Quincy and Galesburg, have experienced down periods, Thornton has had only five losing seasons in the last 60 years.
Du Sable: Nat "Sweetwater" Clifton, Paxton Lumpkin, Sweet Charlie Brown, Maurice "Mo" Cheeks, Shellie McMillon.
Marshall: George Wilson, Rich Bradshaw, Joe Stiffend, Patrick Beverley, Darius Smith.
Farragut: Kevin Garnett, Ronnie Fields, Billy Lewis, Sonny Parker, Michael Wright.
Westinghouse: Mark Aguirre, Eddie Johnson, Hersey Hawkins, Kiwane Garris, Cedrick Banks.
St. Joseph: Isiah Thomas, Evan Turner, Deryl Cunningham, Tony Freeman, Daryl Thomas.
Centralia: Dike Eddleman, Bobby Joe Mason, Dickie Garrett, Ricky Garrett, Herb Williams.
Galesburg: Bumpy Nixon, Dale Kelley, Mike Owens, Doug Mills, Joey Range.
West Aurora: Bill Small, Kenny Battle, Matt Hicks, Billy Taylor, Jay Bryant.
Crane: Sherron Collins, James Jackson, Jim Robinson, Eugene Ford, Ken Colliers Norman.
Bloom: Homer Thurman, Raymond McCoy, Mike McCoy, Brandon Cole, Audie Matthews.
Dunbar: Ronnie Lester, Billy Harris, Bernie Mills, Alpha Saunders, Mel Davis.
Carver: Cazzie Russell, Pete Cunningham, Joe Allen, Tim Hardaway, Terry Cummings.