The Pros And Cons Of Colvin Signing In The Spring

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By Roy & Harv Schmidt

Considering how often the recruitment of Whitney Young's Chris Colvin has gone back and forth, the bottom line is that at this point nobody really knows when he will announce his college decision. It could be on the last day of the Fall signing period or he could opt to wait until the spring. Either way, what we are about to do is break down our thoughts on what we think the recruiting positives and negatives are should Colvin end up holding out until April or later.

Before we go any further, we wish to emphasize that it is not our intent to offer our advice on whether we think Colvin should sign early or in the spring. We don't believe that it is our place to speak on that. In reality only Colvin and his family really know what is best in that regard. What we intend to do instead is offer our analysis of what we believe to be the pros and cons should Colvin bypass the Fall signing period and wind up as a spring signee, particularly from the standpoint of the schools currently recruiting him. So on that note, here goes.

Pros

1) Recruiting Comfort Zone
The way things currently stand now, Colvin has mentioned four schools as being in the mix--Iowa State, Marquette, Providence and USC. At least three of them have already turned in most solid 2009 recruiting classes. Marquette currently has commitments from five prospects and has a class that ranks anywhere from top 10-top 15 nationally, depending on which national recruiting analyst's rankings you put the most stock in. USC, meanwhile, has four class of 2009 commitments and their class presently ranks anywhere from top 15-20 nationally. Providence has five 2009 commitments and based on sheer numbers alone their class has to rank somewhere in the top 30-40 nationally. With this being said, all three of these schools can afford to wait on Colvin should they choose to do so. If not, they also have the luxury of being able to move on. Either way, we believe that it is a win-win situation for any of them.

2) Academics
There is no question that by waiting until the spring, Colvin can make even greater strides academically with respect to making sure that he qualifies and is eligible to play as a college freshman. Announcing prior to the end of the Fall signing period, on the other hand, certainly would not offer him that leeway. It is an absolute no-brainer that any school recruiting Colvin wants him to qualify so that he doesn't have to sit as a freshman, as he is simply too talented and has the ability to be an immediate contributor for virtually any of the programs in the running for him.

Cons

1) The Numbers Game
Needless to say, it is inevitable that should Colvin choose to wait, more and more schools are likely to try and get involved with recruiting him between now and the spring. In fact, some are already doing so. Washington State is now showing a heavy level of interest in Colvin and we have also recently heard Connecticut mentioned as well. Simply put, the longer Colvin's recruitment goes on the more likely it is for any school that still has a need for a point guard in the 2009 class and feels that they may have a connection to try to jump in. This would certainly have to cause any of the four schools considered to be among the current frontrunners to feel a bit uneasy. It will be interesting to see how things play out in this regard.

2) Handlers
Oh yes, the handlers. There are already plenty of them surrounding Colvin, all of whom have nothing but their own selfish interests at heart and want to be able to steer Colvin's recruitment in one direction or the other. It seems that every year in Chicago there is at least one recruitment that fits this description. Again, the longer it continues the more there are that will try to have a say and get a piece of the pie. Any school that has a sincere interest in recruiting Colvin needs to be aware of this situation if they aren't already. As the cliche goes, it is a classic case of how "too many cooks spoil the broth."

There you have it. Right now the only thing that we know with a fair degree of certainty is that if Colvin announces during the Fall signing period he will play it down all the way to the last possible minute on the final day (November 19). After all, such is the Chicago way--to build up the drama surrounding a player's recruitment for all that it is worth. Therefore, we will wait and see whether the week of November 12-19 proves to be a big one for Colvin or whether it becomes a mere afterthought.

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CAN YOU SAY PATRICK BEVERLY, HE WAITED AND HE GOT THE
DEAL TO ARKANSAS, BUT HE WASN'T FLYING HIGH ON THE
RADAR LIKE COLVIN!
I BELIEVE COLVIN WON'T WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE
SEASON TO SIGN, I SEE HIM HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE
IN A WEEK AND A HALF, DOING IT UP VERY BIG, AND I HOPE
HE BACKS IT UP WITH A VERY GOOD SEASON WITH THE
DOLPHINS! THEIR SCHEDULE IS RIGHT OUT OF RIPLEY'S
BELIEVE IT OR NOT!

Roy & Harv Respond:

Interesting prediction on Colvin, Phil. You could very well end up being right.

I am like Phil I think he gets it over with in the fall. I have a feeling it will be either USC or Marquette which has been involved for a long time. It depends on if he wants to stay close to home or get away. My recommendation would be to get away from Chicago and all the distractions here. Of course I made that same suggestion to Mike Stovall but he is coming to Depaul. I just hope the family distractions don't get in the way for Stovall. As for Colvin I feel it would help him to get away from the area. USC would be a great choice for him, but it's his life so I hope the best for the kid.

Roy & Harv Respond:


Wow--we seem to have a consensus going here!

On a Marquette stand point we have filled up all five of our scholarships already but rumors suggested that six spots will be open in time for the 2009-2010 season.

In regards for over signing someone, Marquette still has somewhat of a starting job available at the shooting guard next which they hope to fill from the group of Chris Colvin, top 25 prospect Michael Snaer, Sherrod Wright, or another Chicago prospect named Darius Smith.

All are high prospects that probably would see extended time at the two for MU next year. Snaer appears to be a hail mary for Marquette and will probably end up waiting until Henry commits which equals a spring signing period.

Darius Smith also goes to a school who often suggests that their recruits wait until the spring signing period.

That being said I really want Chris Colvin. At our Marquette Madness (which Colvin attended) I had a sign saying "I'm a Colvin Crazy" and I can only hope that he sees a good position for himself in Buzz's system next year. Landing Colvin also helps Marquette get its name back out in Chicago under new Head Coach Buzz Williams, something that former coach Tom Crean did well.

In regards to Colvin I fully think that he will commit on his birthday because recruits generally use special days to announce commitments. I also think it helps that we are the closest to Chicago and taking a quick glance at the USC roster for 2009-2010 they have a pile up at the guard positions. At Marquette Colvin will get quality minutes at the one behind top prospect Junior Cadougan and at the two he will battle for a starting spot with All-American Juco Dwight Buycks who will be a Junior next year.

There are bonuses for him waiting as well though for Marquette. With our Head Coach being new this year, Colvin may be persuaded if Buzz takes us far in the tournament (something Crean has failed to do since 2003)

Final thought, if the list remains at four (which holding off to spring inevitably will bring in more schools) I really like Marquette's chances of landing Colvin and finalizing a top 5 class in the country. Then again I am biased . . .

Roy & Harv Respond:


While we agree with most everything that you say, we find it interesting that you seem to label Colvin as being a combo guard. We consider him to be a pure point guard all the way. We also believe that Smith is more suited for the point at the present time as opposed to the 2.

If Colvin is 6'3" as a few sites do have him I think he could play as a short sg and sites including Scout agree with me. Obviously you guys are more informed on his game but hasn't he played the two guard at his high school? If he is familiar i think he would spend equal time between the one and two next year if a team like Marquette called for it.

Jerel McNeal - another guy out of Chicago and currently playing for Marquette - also stands in at 6'3" so I do think Colvin could play either position.

Bleed blue Colvin is a point guard not a two guard or combo guard. He is best with the ball in his hands period. I feel he is one of the best point guards in the country because he knows the position and is a throwback type point guard for me. Just a little bit behind John Wall of Raleigh,NC Word of God. And Colvin is a better three point shooter than most people think. He gets to the hole so well that he doesn't shoot it as often. I have seen Colvin play since grade school and he can stroke it from deep. In saying this I wish he would develop a mid range game. That would make him completely unstoppable.

If Colvin is a pure point guard, then I guess I never knew what that meant. I watched him play with the Fire this summer at the Main Event. I didnt see him pass the ball once in three straight games. He made Kamikaze moves to the basket and rarely finished. He did get to the line, but at no point did I see him display point guar ability outside of getting into the lane. He looked completely unaware of his teammates in all the games I saw from him this summer and I personally think he made that team worse.
Maybe he looks a lot different on his high school team than on the AAU circuit but he was not a point guard and definitely not a pure point guard when I saw him with the Fire this summer. I remember there being a profile on him for ESPN that emphasized that he was a 2 guard and definitely not a point guard

Roy & Harv Respond:

Consider the environment in which Colvin was playing when you watched him, as we think it says a lot as to why he played that way. Most everyone (if not everyone) in Illinois who has watched him on a regular basis agree that he is a point guard.

I am concerned with the issue of eligibility. Why would this be an issue? Whitney Young is a Selective Enrollment school. If the young man is in academic danger, why is he still allowed to attend such an academically elite school? Wouldn't his place at the school be better served by a more academically deserving student? Just wondering.

Roy & Harv Respond:


Mark,

We don't have the answers to these questions, but your points are well-taken.

i hope he goes to providence

IF YOU THINK EVERY YOUNGSTER AT THESE MAGNET SCHOOLS
IS A SUPER STUDENT, THEN I HAVE SOME SWAMP LAND TO SELL
YOU, DIRT CHEAP!
AT EVERY SCHOOL, I DON'T CARE IF IT IS AN IVY LEAGUE
PREP SCHOOL, THERE IS THE TOP RANKED STUDENT AND THERE
IS ALSO THE PERSON WHO RANKS DEAD LAST IN HIS OR HER
CLASS, I CALL THIS THE JOHN MCCAIN RANKING, HE RANKED
894 OUT OF 899 IN HIS NAVAL ACADEMY CLASS!

Roy & Harv Respond:


Phil,

We take it that you didn't vote for McCain in the presidential election!

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