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Sean Avery suspended for "sloppy seconds"? Ridiculous

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Sometimes, I just shake my head at the NHL, whose arbitrary punishment scale reached an absurd height with the Sean Avery episode.

In case you missed it, Avery -- a Dallas Stars instigator and knucklehead -- ripped a Calgary player for dating his ex-girlfriend. He called her his "sloppy seconds".

Avery used to date actress Elisha Cuthbert (on the left in the picture with Paris Hilton).

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But now she's dating another player, and Avery took offense. This is suspension-worthy?

This is a league where bare-knuckle fighting or swinging a stick at a player gets you just a few minutes in the penalty box.

But calling someone sloppy seconds warrants a suspension? And Dallas management was all for it, saying if the league didn't suspend Avery, the team would have.

Talk about the Politically Correct police.

Ridiculous.

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So your saying if you wrote those comments in this blog about other writers in this paper, your employer the Sun-Times, would be asking you to write a follow-up article on your "sloppy seconds" and singing your good word?

Roman responds: I don't refer to my exes by that phrase.

Sorry, Roman, I disagree. Imagine a kid watching that and going to his dad "Dad, what's 'sloppy seconds' mean?" I'd hate to be that dad. I do think just a one game suspension is sufficient however. I do feel that celebs such as players need to watch their language especially in broadcasted interviews even though we now allow obvious "F bombs" from time to time on the field, gym floor or ice which can be attributed to momentary frustration.

There's also the issue of who is saying it. Sean Avery is like the AJ Pierzynski of the NHL except not as talented, intelligent and savvy. He's just a complete jerk who has very little hockey talent except for his instigative "goonism." You might think "So what? It's the single act that counts." True, but Avery has had a gross reputation as a loose cannon as well as a complete piece of feces on the ice.

Roman responds: I don't disagree, but why did the Stars pay him all that money?

You're an idiot.

Roman responds: Clever.

Sean Avery is a classless piece of crap. Say or do what you want on the ice but to seek out a reporter and ask if the camera is on, and dis your ex is pretty low, even for that bottom feeder. How many other players have had a rule put in place because of their pathetic behavior. He is an example of th poorest of sportsmanship. I will take fighting over sophmoric revenge.

Roman responds: I agree with everything you just said. And I'm really inspired by all of this feedback. I just hope it's based more in having respect for women than it is in having hatred for Avery.

hey Roman this guy is a habitual reoffender. Do you think it was ok for him to call George Laraque a monkey or throw insults at a fans girlfriend because he was getting heckled?
He didn't get suspended for the monkey comment and denies it (surprise) , but whos word do you trust? He is just the type of guy to use it, and don't deny it. Now he makes mysoginistic offensive comments to his ex girlfreinds which has nothing to do with hockey.
It takes a simple mind to just blame it on politcal correctness, but this kind of behavior has no place in hockey and they have rules to deal with it. You have heard of rules haven't you, i'm sure you have them at YOUR workplace too. Or can you write anything you want?

Roman responds: I know of his history. If this is an accumulation of his offenses, then that's different. But from what I understand, this suspension is based on these remarks.
And I've had colleagues write negative things about each other (not my style), and we've told them not to do it again. No suspensions. But we didn't like it. Some actually did, because it drew attention and some people love that stuff and buy the paper to keep on top of it.
I think using a racial slur is suspension-worthy. Avery, as offensive as it was, referred only to girls he dated. Splitting hairs? Maybe.

Either you are deliberately missing the point, or you have absolutely no clue about hockey and what occurs on the ice. (And by the way, swinging a stick at a player can warrant a suspension.) Hockey players are generally respectful, humble, upstanding guys. There’s a basic level of decency in the game that includes respect for teammates and opponents alike.

It’s one thing if Avery chirps as his did on the ice, during a game. Compared to some things, that actually might be quite tame. But what happens on the ice stays on the ice, and just because he’s a pro athlete doesn’t mean that he need not be held accountable for his actions and how he represents his team off the ice. To issue a statement like that (unprovoked by even a question) not only embarrasses himself, but also the Dallas Stars organization, his teammates, and the league.

Roman responds: I agree with several of your points, including that hockey players generally are humble, upstanding guys. It's one of the reasons I've enjoyed covering hockey over the years. Hawks winger Adam Burish does a blog for us, and he's a great guy to deal with.
But what does that have to do with this? Avery's not an upstanding guy, and what he said was stupid and offensive, but worthy of a suspension? It's worthy of other women not dating a creep who would say that.
And stick-related penalties can warrant a suspension, but not always. Sometimes the high stick is an accident, other times it's not. And even when it appears fairly deliberate, a suspension is not handed out. And I think intent to hurt someone is far more serious than calling someone sloppy seconds. I used to cover a guy named Bryant Marchment, who had the knack of "accidentally" taking the legs out from guys with knee-to-knee hits. The other players knew what he was doing, and he didn't always get suspended.

Also, I would have loved for Phaneuf or Iginla or any of the other Flames to beat the crap out of Avery. Pity Bettman didn't wait to suspend him.

Roman responds: Yes, that's where the punishment should have been handed out. But you don't want one of your best players being penalized or suspended for fighting a guy like Avery. That would have been playing right into his hands.

I agree with you, this is not a suspension worthy action. If you are going to be among the group that considers athletes "celebs" then take a look at ANY of those stalker trash rags and see that they rip on each other ALL THE TIME. While it was pretty pathetic of him to open his mouth, really in the long run he looks like the sour grapes moron which most people already knew. A suspension isn't going to change him in the least.

Well, FORREST GUMP said it best in re: Avery. 'stupid is as stupid does". He's a "player" in the most generous understanding of the term, not remotely comparable to a Rocket Scientist.


Yes he is a complete turd but a suspension?
Who are they trying to cater to here? Women who do not watch the sport? Little children who are lead to believe that it is not a real hockey game until someone is bleeding from being pummeled?
This is like NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg demanding that Plaxico Burress be strung up by the heels while he encourages thousands of illegal aliens to find refuge in his city.
Bring out the torches and pitchforks for the idiot athlete but turn your eyes away from the other, and most of the time bigger problems.

It seems that some people like to pick their fights where it serves them best and are more interested in popular opinion then doing what is right and taking what is the appropriate response.

Not suspension worthy, but definitely serious. Folks need to watch what they say in the media and on tv. He was gutter-mouthed and got dealt with severely which is good for the league.

@Roman: My original point spoke to Avery's crossing that line of respect that's well-known and generally prevalent in hockey. What Avery said was not only stupid and offensive, but it was worthy of a suspension because Avery represents the Dallas Stars and hockey, and he embarrassed both. Perhaps others might disagree, but I can’t condone what he said under the perception that any publicity is good publicity or that far worse things have happened or could occur. Avery’s brand of publicity is the negative type that isn’t needed in hockey. By not providing the upstanding example that many other hockey players do, Avery does more harm than good to the game.

To your other point, what do suspensions for stick-related penalties or for knee-to-knee hits have to do with Avery? (And isn’t calling a woman (and a non-player to boot) "sloppy seconds" not only misogynistic but also intended to hurt and to incite? Certainly Avery’s little performance was deliberate.) You’re saying that one is worse than the other, but I can make a value judgment there, too, by saying the opposite, or that one does not preclude both from punishment. There’s no reason that suspensions can’t be made for knee-on-knee hits as well as public comments that are detrimental to hockey. However, something done so publicly is must easier and faster for the league to judge than something that happens during a game. How often and how many people do you need to video review Avery’s comments? His words and orchestration speak for themselves. During a game, though, something can "appear fairly deliberate" but be completely accidental. Sometimes hits appear worse at first than they really are. Sometimes players who "aren’t dirty" make stupid decisions and still pay the price (suspension or a penalty) for them. The game has already been changed for the safety of the players, and hits and other actions that would have been fine before are now considered penalties or given suspensions. I’m not really sure how much more you can expect.

Roman,

I think you have to look at the context of the incident. You are able to see that Avery set this whole thing up, that he waited until the cameras were on him, and that he had 'rehearsed' what he was going to say. Malicious and disgusting? Of course, but the kicker in my mind is his intent. Not only did he offend, he wanted to make sure he had an audience before he opened his mouth. Bettman was swift in his reaction and I think his call was the right one.

This guy won't be limited in the NHL by his injuries. His lack of functioning brain cells have already ruined him.

Philtration, just to clarify - there ARE women who love ice hockey, who watch ice hockey, and who actually played the game for many years, like me.

talking trash to a player is one thing. talking trash to someone who has nothing to do with the league or the game is another. i dont disagree with the suspension one bit based solely on that.

I think that dissing his exs doesnt deserve a supension he is a hockey player who cares about what he says

I am a female who loves hockey and I do not find his comment personally offensive in any way, and I think it is safe to say that if his ex was not a fairly well known actress, this probably would not have been a big deal.
I also find it surprising that other people on here are all about the "He shoulda got his arse kicked on the rink!" approach, but are somehow extremely offended by calling someone they don't personally know "sloppy seconds". Pummel the guy, but don't call names? And don't even claim the "sportsmanship" of the sport on that rebuttle! Trash talk goes on the rink all the time - as someone mentioned earlier the f-bomb gets to the mic regularly.
Although, I find it extremely immature that he had to have his own PSA about it, the suspension is definitely extreme. Fine his sorry butt and let her and her expensive lawyers sue him for slander - the NHL is just trying to make sure those lawyers don't come after them as well.

Philtration, and Sharon pretty much said it all. (and I'm trying hard not to visualize Bubba's Mom with her front teeth missing, and a pair of black eyes. What a buzz kill!)

I agree that this guy is a total tool, and that the air he breathes is pretty much wasted on him; but I'm all about free speech. Anything that pushes us closer to the slippery slope of censurism is to be avoided at all cost.

In the words of a true patriot; "I may not agree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

We'll all rue the day that we forfeit that right in the name of political correctness, or any of it's many guises.

Roman,

I think a lot of people are missing the point on what exactly your stance is but I get it. How about this: Do you remember earlier this decade when Shaquille O'Neal went on a radio station and said he had slept with Aaliyah, Venus Williams, and Cindy Crawford? He admitted to just joking about those statements and they were in bad taste no doubt. But I don't remember Jerry West and Phil Jackson serving him with a suspension for his remarks, let alone being all that upset about it.

I sit here looking and listening to what Avery said and what all of you have commented about and only one thing comes to mind. Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression! Which means if he wants to go on tv and say that he can, and for the NHL to suspend him for using his right of freedom of speech is insane! I am a female and i love watching hockey. I also hang around a bunch of men "sloppy seconds" is nothing compaired to what he could have said, trust me! Fine him, suspened him for a game or two but dont make a full spectical over a high school comment. Yes avery is childish but hey thats why we all love him or love to hate him. So I say let him play!

haha

What would you want done, besides and "arse" kicking, if that was your daughter or sister or cousin being talked about like that on National Television? Answer that one.

Avery strikes again. If the author knew much about Avery he would know about his racist comments about French Canadians, Franco-Ontarians, African-Canadians, African-Americans, and anybody else that is just a little different than him. This is just another one of Avery's attempt to grab press. He obviously can not do it with any prowess on the ice. On his best days, Avery is an agitator with average abilities by NHL standards. I agree that the league lets crap go (Bertuzzi's breaking of Steve Moore's neck)and that is reprehensible. Avery is a low life media grabber. I only wish that he hadn't been suspended and that he would have had to face Phaneuf. Dion would take matters into his own hands.

It will say a lot for any team that may end up picking up this poor excuse for a human. That would be self policing by the league. Dallas is suffering from the "sloppy seconds" they picked up from the Rangers. He has been hated in the locker room by each team he has played on (ask Ian Laperierre). The guy should be banished to the Quebec Senior Men's League where he must atone for his racist and bigoted comments in addition to his latest.

I agree doode, JUST like America right now. TONS AND TONS of VIOLENCE and KILLINGS and GUNS, and all these uber-violent video games, but something REMOTELY "sexy" ... and look out!! FCC FINE CITY! This IS BS! I like guys like Avery! My kinda mf'er. Keeps things interesting, and oh btw, if no one has noticed yet, the teen prego rate is THROUGH THE STRATOSPHERE!!!! Everyones "doing it", so just close your eyes to reality my puritanical friends ... AND KEEP COMLAINING!!! Bitch, Bitch, Fkn'g BITCH! I outta send Avery over there ta give ya a good ol fashioned (upside down) CROSS CHECK!

A few points: 1) Intent. By asking if the cameras were on, and then saying "I just want to say something" this shows his intent was malicious." By using the NHL venue, he set himself up for suspension. 2) Based on the previous point, he could be open to a hefty lawsuit from Cuthbert for defamation of character. People have paid lawsuits for less hurtful comments. Her image is important to her in Hollywood. I predict $10 million lawsuit. It may be the end of Avery's career. Phaneuf may also sue. 3) The female who said she does not find his comments offensive obviously doesn't know what "sloppy seconds" refers to. It refers to a easy woman who lets multiple men have their way her during a single sexual encounter. Nobody wants to go second in line during the 'event'. Any woman should be offended to be referred to like that. 4) Track record counts, in law and in logic. Clearly Avery isn't wired normally and gets excited at the thought of continually upsetting people by saying or doing very hurtful things. For example, if he knew your grandmother was sick with cancer, he would skate by you and say "how's your grandma feeling eh? Ha, ha". That is an example of his kind of remarks.

I disagree with everybody who thinks its riduculous that Sean Avery got suspended. I don't think the hockey players personal lifes should be inserted into the game like Avery did. He's just trying to get attention. I think its great that the NHL doesnt let players get away with comments like Avery's. If he said it on the ice then its a completely different story. I applaud the Dallas Stars team for not sticking up for Avery. Its pritty easy to see that Avery is not well liked. Even by players on his team.

Dallas owner Tom Hicks has spoken out against Avery publicly following this incident, saying that if the NHL didn't suspend him, the Dallas Stars would have discharged him from their team and that they did not tolerate this kind of behaviour in their hockey club. His other teammates are making evasive-neutral comments as well.

To all of you who are saying "Well everyone trash talks in hockey, it's part of the game", think about it - this idiot deliberately sought out a camera to do this. This is off-the-ice now, obviously completely unsportsmanlike.

I agree with you, this is blown way out of proportion, just slap a $50,000 fine and be done with it, no need for suspension.

Heck, even Shaq freestyled a rap, dissing up Kobe, and he didn't get any punishment.

This suspension is well warranted, but in all fairness it is more of a 'payback' for all of the times that the NHL has turned it's back on Avery's antics.

Avery has skated (pardon the pun) his way through the NHL with very little disciplinary actions taken against him for actions on and off of the ice. The league went so far as to change the rules of the game after Avery 'danced'(and acted like the clown that he truly is) in front of New Jersey goaltender Marty Brodeur during while on the PP during the Eastern Conference Stanley Cup Playoffs last season.

That's a pretty interesting way for the NHL to deal with the situation. Change the rules.

While I feel more remorse for one's 'freedom of speech' than I do for Avery, he is the one who created the situation, and now has to deal with the consequesnces of the action.

Let us not forget that, at the end of the day, Elisha Cuthbert, as well as several other women, did not deserve to be singled out for having made the poor choice of dating Avery.


I agree with sharon, the comments were offensive (to elisha and dion) but not to the general public. Foul language is frequently used in interviews, its a matter of media airing them or not, and since he just used a vulgar term in reference to a 'celebrity' it made more hype. His comments do deserve some sort punishment, but not to this extent.

The suspension is fitting based on the context of the offense. Avery was not making an off the cuff, thoughless and cruel remark. What he did was premeditated and rehearsed. He called a little media conference. Made sure the cameras were rolling. And then said something completely crass and vulgar with the sole intention of offending. His remarks were directed not only at his former girlfriend, to disrespect her, but were also clearly made to antagonize and belittle other members of the NHLPA. It was a gross violation of decency, and if the League cannot hold its players accountable with a suspension for such disgusting and premeditated behaviour, then God help that player on the ice....Personally, I'd like to see him drummed out of the game, as a useless and vistigial remnant of less talented days....

Suspension for calling Elisha Cuthbert his sloppy seconds??? Ridiculous. It shows that Avery is an idiot but so what?

Avery used the phrase "sloppy seconds" in the same way as most of us do. We use the phrase to refer to someone we used to date but who we now feel we are too good for since we no longer are with them. It also suggests a bit of contempt for the person but we rarely use that phrase according to its real and much cruder meaning. I don't think Avery knows of the phrase's true meaning let alone used it in reference to Elisha Cuthbert.

He should be penalized in some way by the league and/or his team to teach him not to say such idiotic things but it is hardly a major offence.

I think the league may end up looking more foolish than Avery on this one.

J.C.

So I guess it's the NHL's job to stick up for Elissa Cuthbert?

PC police run amok...and what is it about hotties throwing themselves at hockey players? MUCH more so than any other sport (NBA doesn't count...not only are the gals that hang out at player hotels not hot, but they have alterior motives)

This is pretty ridiculous, I'm not a Avery fan but come on he said "sloppy seconds", deff should not be suspended for that.
On a side note, I want to know what Elisha Cuthbert saw in Avery, He is such and A$$ hole. She could do much much better, I mean come on look at here she is smoking hot.

Good to hear from Bubba's mom and Sharon.

This is a much deeper topic that has so many different angles to consider. The league and team have one perspective. The people it effects have a perspective. But what about women in general? And ones who played the game and want to stand on equal ground? It was quite interesting to read your perspectives. Thanks for sharing.

And someone posted about the children. That in my opinion is another great perspective. I don't think we need to go as far as suspensions, but I think we as Americans need to ask people we pay so much to behave themselves professionaly. I know its not as entertaining as we like it, but there is a different venue for that stuff on pay per view. It was just words, but words can inspire good and evil. And I wonder what is the punishment for someone rich. Because a little fine is not going to control them.

Fined, sure. Suspended, no way. I agree Roman ... this should not warrant suspension. Dallas signed up for this ... they knew about Avery's past. Now they're turning their back on him which can't be good for a team that currently sits in last place in thier division.

Anyone that thinks he should be suspended from playing for something he said off the ice is a freaking idoit. What ever happened to free speech? Sorry but the girl is a groupie and a skank and he called her out ...big deal. Seems like lately everyone one is just searching for a reason to get offended....WTF.

Hey Villano, thanks for judging a female hockey player on what you imagine her looks would be like. Brilliant. Shows your knowledge of the game and your regard for the other half of the human race. Like any athlete (or woman) cares how you assess them on your little "buzz kill" scale. I'd like to give you a buzz with a good clean hip check!

You wrote "But what does that have to do with this? Avery's not an upstanding guy, and what he said was stupid and offensive, but worthy of a suspension? It's worthy of other women not dating a creep who would say that."

That is exactly the point, and he is in pretty hot water. We are talking about a guy that has a history of acting out, this is not his first incident. We are talking about a guy flicked off a cameraman and who last year in the playoffs in a move that degraded the game turned around to face one of the league's best goaltenders and used his hands and stick to try to block the goaltenders eyes with absolutely no intention of playing the puck, the equivalent to covering his eyes with his hands -- hardly sportsmanlike and degrading to hockey. I have no problem with him making those comments directly to Dion on the ice, that is common actually but not to the media, which was offensive to both the league and women. This guy is probably on strike three. If he were a first time offender then sure, fine him, but he is Sean Avery.
These guys have been wearing suits and ties since high school hockey, they know the high standard of behavior in the game. If he doesn't understand or adapt, then he should go.

For one, I am pleased to see the NHL take action against Avery. Professional athletes have a responsibility to their team and their league. They are spokesmen as well as players and they are very well paid for their responsibilities.

Obviously players, just like everyone else, are free to say anything they want, no matter how ridiculous or disgusting, but they are not immune from the fact that choices have consequences. That's an important lesson to learn in life.

Based on what he said and the public venue in which he said it, I am hoping that his consequences will include invalidation of his contract.

Good job NHL.


What he said wasn't that outrageous, but you can't use the NHL as a stage to get back at your ex! I thought that's what MySpace was for!

Roman responds: Thanks for the chuckle.

So what's next? If you ignore stuff like this it sends a really bad message. Avery would make sure that his next comment would be even stupider and more offensive had he not been called on this. Next up he'd be talking about doing nasty things to Crosby's mom at centre ice in Pittsburgh.

When your own teammates don't step in to defend you, even weakly, it paints a grim picture. What's happened to the class that hockey players have (almost) always demonstrated off ice? Some of the on ice stuff we see is questionable but unless you've ever played the game you'll never truly understand and that's a whole other argument anyway.

If it's okay for people here to call Avery names and criticize him based on his behavior, it should be okay for Avery to do the same for his ex-girlfriend.

If Cuthbert made a remark that some people consider rude towards Avery would it reflect negatively on the entertainment industry? Would she be suspended from film-making? No, of course not, just as Avery's comment doesn't reflect negatively on hockey.

I see the same people who are bashing this guy for saying "sloppy seconds" calling him every name in the book right here.

What is the difference?

It seems that you are more than ok with having your say about someone in a public forum (and I am not just talking about this story either) while you are passing judgment about them for doing the very same thing.
Tell me the difference between this guy and people coming here to insult Ozzie Guillen, Lovie Smith, Jerry Angelo, Lou Piniella, Jokim Noah....
Don't be a hypocrite.

This is insane to suspend someone over name calling. Avery is a jerk yeah but I can't believe how many people are really offended comments directed at his ex. If the nhl had to do something it should have been a SMALL fine at the max. Give me a break people.

"Tell me the difference between this guy and people coming here to insult Ozzie Guillen, Lovie Smith, Jerry Angelo, Lou Piniella, Jokim Noah....
Don't be a hypocrite."

Sean Avery plays hockey, and there is a definite, if unwritten, code of conduct. If you are a casual observer, you may not see this, and understandably so, but for those of us that have played or play the game, and the fans that have been around for decades, they know there are standards we expect of those who represent this game. The ultimate sin in hockey circles is to fail to show respect to the game.

As of this moment I'm writing a persuasive essay on free speech and I came across your article and I thought that i would use this example of Sean Avery's actions.

Anyways, I do think that he has all the rights in the world to say this, but there has to be some consequence to what he says. It's like teaching a child that saying such a thing is offensive.

Free speech my foot! Avery (as well as all other professional athletes) is held to a higher standard of professionalism since he is potentially a role model to young people watching him play (God help us if that is the case). This is partly why he is paid big bucks to play and he is held more accountable for his actions on AND off the ice. I understand your point that brutality really has little to no place in sports that children watch, but unfortunately that is what the league must resort to to sell tickets. But Avery's comments were uncalled for since they attack someone completely unrelated to the game, and the female gender as a whole. That's reason enough to consider indefinate suspension.

I totally agree this is ridiculous. I don't think he meant it as an offense to the girl, but to the player. WFT?

Justin

A code of conduct among hockey players? Failure to show respect to the game?
Please!

Now you are trying a turn a sport that not only condones fighting right in the middle of a game but takes pride in it into some kind of noble cross between Polo, the Ice Capades and Zorro?
It is ok to knock someone’s teeth out but watch your language?
It is ok to pull another player’s jersey over their head and get in as many solid punches as you can but be careful about what you say?

Spare me.

"but for those of us that have played or play the game, and the fans that have been around for decades, they know there are standards we expect of those who represent this game"

This is high comedy - yes...hockey players in general are down to earth guys. On the other hand, their exploits off the ice would go toe to toe with any other sports in terms of DUIs. Having lived in the same apt complex with a few of the Hawk players in the early 80s, they are prolific drinkers!

Hey Sean, Elisha's new boyfriend is hotter than you.

To: Avery defenders based on "freedom of speech."

He's not going to jail! He's not even charged with a crime! There's your "freedom of speech."

He represents the NHL in this situation. He's not in a bar. He's not out with "the boys" somewhere. He's being broadcast to North America via the microphone and he fully aware of it! He has the right to do it Constitutionally, but as member of the NHL, in which he is highly paid by the way, he signs up for their standards and bylaws. I can say a plethora of things inside my classroom, but I could find myself in a lot of hot water, including getting fired, if I say the "wrong things." This is life for most of us.

Phil, I am dying! You are trully gifted. If there was ever a time to apply the lipstick on a pig analogy.

Doug Jones on December 4, 2008 10:17 AM - EXCELLENT POST.

Trully to whom much is given, much is required. We need to hold those who enjoy the money, fame and power accountable. And that goes across the board. That is what is trully wrong with America right now. And no amount of money can bail us out of immorality.

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein

This has been quite a discussion. Thanks, Roman.

To my "left winger" - if you were trying to defend my honor, I thank you, but Villano's remark about me not having teeth did not offend me. And this is like the 2nd or 3rd time I"ve been called "Buzz Kill" by Villano, and I'm sure it won't be the last.

Roman, don't you think the Cuthbert/Hilton photo is Quick-Hits-worthy? I was waiting to see if Elliot would scoop it up for his page. I guess there's not enough skin showing.

Phil,

I won't even begin to address fighting except to say that I think it is important and if you are truly interested in why it is important to hockey and not just in using it as a tactical advantage on blogs then google it or check this out:
http://www.sportscolumn.com/story/2007/3/25/125718/908


Roman responds Wrong. If you want to read about the importance of fighting, go to https://blogs.suntimes.com/blackhawks. Adam Burish does a three-part series on it that's informative and entertaining.

Playing Devils Advocate here?

What if this guy - Sean Avery - had said the same thing about Paris Hilton? Yes, let's place here previous wild life-style into the mix before the statement was made.

The sentence above is clearly to view how some people react to a particular person who is slighted but the one below is to start controversy, if any.

I remember a specific YouTube clip where Ms. Hilton used the N-word where Jesse and Al didn't ask for a sit down with her.

Just wondering?

He got 6 games and anger management counselling and if teh cousellors say he can't play after the league suspension he ain't gonna play.
So right now the counsellors hold the card.
But then the Dallas Stars can also suspend him on top of the league and if they decide its for the season, theres nothing the league can do.
Betman said he was already warned before and the next time he does something hes going to be sorry.

My prediction is the Stars will do nothing and all this condemnation by them is just for show. Brett Hull loves this guy and once the 6 games are up, he'll be back.


Bubba's Mom sez: "I'd like to give you a buzz with a good clean hip check!"

Who knows ... I just might enjoy it.

At my age, any contact with the opposite sex is appreciated.

"To my "left winger" - if you were trying to defend my honor, I thank you, but Villano's remark about me not having teeth did not offend me. And this is like the 2nd or 3rd time I"ve been called "Buzz Kill" by Villano, and I'm sure it won't be the last."

Sorry; but anything that distorts or mitigates the vision of you that I hold in my imagination is immediately condemned to the furthest and most inaccessible regions of my brain.

When you subtract those areas from the total mass of my cranial matter ... there isn't much square footage left.

So wasn't the Justin Timberlake song "what goes around comes around" or whatever it was based on this couple because she cheated on him? I thought that was the story, but I could be wrong.

Look, it's no crime to be a jerk and say stupid and mean things. Well, maybe it is in Canada... Anyway, if the team wanted to fine him because he represents them, I'd have no problem with that, but what he said was not that big of a deal and definitely not worthy of a suspension. And if she did cheat on him and that's why they broke up... I don't really blame him for taking a shot.

Sean Avery is the epitome of hockey. This guy, who without lots of natural talent, excelled at his profession. Though he has caused problems in Dallas; his short stint with the Rangers was sucessful. Their record was far better with him than without. He makes absurd statements, pulls bush league moves, but he works hard. He is living the dream, maybe we're all just a bit jealous.

Roman is absolutely one hundred percent CORRECT.

Okay, I think I understand professional hockey now. It's an entertainment thing that stars guys who do violence with weapons, which, if I did it, I'd be doing felony time in state prison. And they get extra popularity for publicly discussing their intimate relationships with women in barnyard language.

Beyond the felony prison time, if I acted anything like these creeps, women, men and children in my community would cringe and cross the street to avoid being anywhere near me. The few men who wanted to hang with me would be the town's Leper Colony.

But it's all good if I can get a little round disk thing into a net.

Jeez -- who expects me to spend money to reward knuckledragging subhuman scum like this? Who can love pro hockey AND raise decent kids?


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