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A no brain-er. With the skills this kid possesses, passing on him would be a monumental mistake. Conversely, this could be a job saving pick for John Paxson - assuming he does the right thing, and I think he will.

No brainer the Bulls do not need Rose - they have enough of that the need a big post guy like Beasley. Look! at the stats Beasley has huge up side points & rebounds. Rose is just another of what they all ready havel. Put Beasley on this team with all the others and his inside presence would be great.

Things are looking very Rosy!

I have a feeling they will end up taking Beasley, he will have a so-so NBA career but his discipline problems will ultimately override any accomplishments on the court. Rose is a guaranteed perennial all star who will instantly transform Miami into a monster in the eastern conference. The bulls need for a low post scorer supersedes their need for a point guard. I would hate to see a talent like Rose play for the bulls because he will end like up Marbury on the Knicks, that is to say a hometown hero coming back to play for his NBA team and just burning out into obscurity. The pressure would be too much for Rose. The bulls will take Beasley, and it will ultimately be considered a flop, but their hands are tied.

I have a feeling they will end up taking Beasley, he will have a so-so NBA career but his discipline problems will ultimately override any accomplishments on the court. Rose is a guaranteed perennial all star who will instantly transform Miami into a monster in the eastern conference. The bulls need for a low post scorer supersedes their need for a point guard. I would hate to see a talent like Rose play for the bulls because he will end like up Marbury on the Knicks, that is to say a hometown hero coming back to play for his NBA team and just burning out into obscurity. The pressure would be too much for Rose. The bulls will take Beasley, and it will ultimately be considered a flop, but their hands are tied.

First of all Rose is 6 '3" not 6' 4". Second, he seemed kinda slow to me. I'm not sure he's all-that. Plus, how good a decision maker is he? Beasely is a beast. This one will be tough. It will come down to b-ball intelligence.

Roman responds: I'll give you 6-3. Heights are always padded in college, but SLOW?!?!? Jalen Rose was slow. Not Derrick.

Wow that's really great. Seems like only one obvious pick to make, unless they trade it or something.

It's Rose he will change what the Bulls look like we can trade kirk to the clips for brand and add thomas if we have to to get brand back well john paxton and jerry R dont blow this one.

Wow. Finally, the number 1 pick in a year where it matters. I can already see Hinrich lovers saying we should keep him and move him to the 2 guard spot( A guy that can't score consistently and can't stay out of foul trouble) and trade Ben Gordon( A 20 pt. a game scorer). Amazing. Pick Rose and try to package Hinrich or Noce or Gordon or Deng, some combination and get some sort of low post threat. Finally invest in Tyrus Thomas and Noah, they both will be better with Rose, ask Tyson Chandler and David West what a great point guard can do!

The guy who said Rose is slow...I mean, OB's head might explode if he heard that.

The Bulls will take Rose .... and then trade him to Cleveland for Ben Wallace; throwing in Thomas, next year's first round pick, and an undisclosed amount of cash.

Please take beasley, the bulls have enough guards and the heat can use rose

Pick Rose Trade kirk he can not pass. With Thomas who will be good if the Bulls start him.this would be agood team or Rose for Wade would be good also.But kirk has to go

This is a no-brainer. Look at the numbers that Beasely put up in the big 12. He led the nation in rebounding. He beat Kansas. He broke Carmelo Anthony's records. Pick him and trade some of the Bulls forwards for another center and a 3 point specialist. He is another Carmelo Anthony.

Anonymous....Rose is just like what they have already? Get a clue. A point guard like him is a rare find. Get a clue.

I THINK THEY SHOULD TRADE THE PICK ALONG WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER GUYS THEY HAVE ON THE TEAM. BEASLEY IS NOT A BIG MAN HE WILL NOT COMMAND A DOUBLE TEAM AT ALL WE NEED A LOW POST PRESENCE. HE MAY GET YOU 15PTS AND 10REBS BUT IS HE REALLY A DIFFERENCE MAKER? NO HE'S NOT TYRUS THOMAS CAN GET YOU 15 AN 10 SO CAN DREW GOODEN. SO TRADE FOR A BIG MAN BIG MAN BIG MAN!

No decision here. Ben Gordon or Captain Kirk just contacted their real estate agent, one of them gone. The Bulls are set at big forward types. Beasley will have his ego handed to him by the Garnetts and Nowitzkis of the world, and he ain't faced any body like that. Derrick Rose, if kept grounded will be the real deal. The Bulls have a chance to get a Tony Parker/ Jason Kidd type all in ONE. PAX, don't blow this. The choice is obvious if you know your basketball!

Roman responds: It almost seems too obvious, doesn't it? And Beasley averaged more than Durant did as a frosh. But I can see Rose making Deng better right away, and Thomas and Noah. What an athletic team they suddenly have. You think Avery Johnson wants to coach them now?

No issue with them taking Rose but who guards the other teams' big guard?
Assume they will do their best to sign/trade Gordon and/or peddle Kirk with Tyrus maybe.

You bet, did you see the look on the new Knick's coach (however you spell his name) after they dropped and when the Bulls won it, priceless. As he said, the money don't matter!

Roman: It should be Rose. The playoffs have shown that a great PG can take a team far. What type of value could the Bulls expect to receive if they sent away Gordon or Kirk? Who are other players would be on the trading block.

Get the leader you need in Rose and trade any two combination of Capt Kirk,Gordon, and Thomas for true low post scorer. Carmello Anthony is available, maybe we can get Elton Brand back? I don't want to see Rose in Miami killing us for the next 6-7 years. Paxson might trade it.

Beasley didn't have discipline problems. He was pretty childish in high school but there were no issues at K State. I'm leaning towards Rose but its a tough call.

I cant believe we are actually debating whether to take Beasley or Rose. Of course it has to be Beasley! He is the much better player. I know Rose is the hometown hero, but you have to take Beasley on this one. Don't end up with a huge reach that will never pan out like Garett Wolf. It might be different if Rose mad some clutch free throws and won the championship, but he didn't he choked . Beasley is the best player in the draft, if the Bulls dont draft him they will be sorry.

Roman responds: Couldn't care less where Rose is from. He's a big, strong, fast, pass-first point guard. He led a good - not great - team to the title game. He choked as bad as LeBron has choked with some free throws. You don't need Beasley as bad with Drew Gooden. You need Rose.

Roman asks: "You think Avery Johnson wants to coach them now?"

I think Judy Collins would still take a pass.

I just got through doing flip flops!!!!!! Bulls MUST sign ROSE!!!! Bulls will have a coach by the end of the WEEK!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rose is the clear pick....He's been called Jason Kidd with a jumpshot....trade hinrich gordon and another player for Gilbert Arenas and see you in the Finals!!!!!

Roman responds: Arenas has been playing with Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison and hasn't sniffed the Finals. No thanks.

You have to take Rose with the #1 pick. He's from chicago and looks to be join forces with Chris Paul as the next generation of PG's emerge. TAKE ROSE. Beasley will score but can't lead a team. ROSE can nearly do it all!

I believe that Paxson will be real active if the salary cap lets him. It's becoming a guard orienated league. I wouldn't be surprised to see Nocs, Hughes, Gordon or Hinrick all gone. One of them is out and my opinion is it's Gordon, his defense and turnovers can be a problem at times. He also will bring more too than Kirk, who really hurt his trade value with the type of year he had last, plus he's tied up and Gordon isn't.

Roman responds: I would bet the house Hughes is gone, even if they have to Tim Thomas him and eat his salary. You don't need that attitude affecting Rose.

I saw Beasley play this year (versus Mizzou) plus several times on TV. He is extremely gifted and is, I think, a guaranteed 20/10 in the NBA. He has the chance to have a power forward impact similar to Karl Malone, which, of course, ain't bad. By all accounts he was a solid citizen at K State. This year, at least, he didn't seem to be leader type which sounds sort of Bullish, doesn't it.

I think Micheal will be great but if Rose truly is Jason Kidd with a jump shot, you have to take him. Be wise, Pax!

And his holea' defense at times, you're probably right, but his salary could be a factor in moving him. He might fit with the Knicks!!

The Bulls should pick Rose. If you look at the playoff teams most of them have a top guard that can put up 20-30 points and give out up to 10 assists or more. Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Billups, Lebron and so on. Sure the Bulls have plenty of guards to go around, but I don't think any have the potential that Rose has. A good point guard that can also be a scoring threat will only improve this team. Just ask Boozer, West, Stoudemire, etc.. I don't think they can go wrong with either Rose or Beasley, but I just think Rose could be come a player like a Wade, Kidd (in his earlier years), etc. The Bulls need a court leader. Beasley can surely bring some inside scoring, but where does he fit? Is the the guy you want with his back to the basket? He can also shoot the 3. This could also all come down to who is coaching this team and what his scheme is and which player fits it better. One thing is for sure is that some players may be heading out of Chicago.

I'm taking D. Rose and riding him to the finals. Trade anybody else on the roster for a solid big, (maybe elton brand in a sign and trade. Clippers could use tyrus thomas and hinrich because shaun livingston is still hurt). Or package deng, hinrich, and gordon for Carmelo and a pick. Things are suddenly looking up for the Bulls. I'm getting my D. Rose jersey tomorrow. The only question is what # will he wear 1 or 25?

Great point guards that can transform teams are rare....Magic, Isiah, Stockton, Nash, Kidd....players like Beasley are much more common...you gotta take Rose

THE ONE GUY MADE A POINT YOU TAKE ROSE YOUR STILL IN THE SAME POSITION AS YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. WITH NEITHER GORDON, HINRICH, OR ROSE CAN GUARD A SHOOTING GUARD IN THIS LEAGUE. ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE THEM TO END UP WITH ROSE BUT WITH THE TRADE OF GORDAN OR HINRICH THEY HAVE TO GET A ACCOMPLISHED 2 MAN. AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT A BIG MAN. I THINK ELTON BRAND WOULD BE A GREAT FIT AT THE 4 THERE IS YOU LOW POST SCORING WITH NOAH ON THE OFFINSIVE BOARDS.

Everyone is talking as if these two possible stars could not possibly align in Chicago. I like the idea of trying to trade with Miami for the number two pick.
Miami already has Wade and Marion; what they really need is a supporting cast. What do the bulls have? Plenty of servicable players who could compliment these two. Send them Kirk,let them pick between Drew Gooden or Tyrus Thomas, and then let them pick between Ben and Hughes.
In this scenerio the Bulls front court would be set with Beasley, Noah, and Gooden or Thomas. Moreover, the Bulls backcourt would be set with Rose, Thabo, and Ben or Hughes.
Getting the number 2 pick was great for Miami, but it by no means fills all the holes on that team. Rose or Beasley would certainly help them, but three pretty good bulls to surround Wade and Marion would help a lot more.

DERRICK, DERRICK.....Pax has got to blow this things up. We have so much garbage on this team right now. If we were stuck at 9 & we couldn't get any value in trades I could understand plugging in a player & hoping it worked. With #1 we are in a unique position to build a true "Champ" quality team. Take Rose....the equivalent to a franchise QB (something we don't understand in CHI) and build around him. Trade all this young "Potential" that we have for some locker vets that will teach the young man how to be a professional (a.k.a not Ben Wallace)..and look to grind out some wins as he develops. Love to see them trade back into round one (w/ Nets? for vets & pick) to get B.Rush or DRC? Build for "Championship" not playoffs...these opportunities don't come along very often!

I think we all have to settle down and actually think this through. Many people are jumping to conclusions. We would be saying PICK BEASLEY if he had made it farther in the NCAA... Remember that he was the concensus #1 until we got to see Rose in the championships.
Bulls need a low post scorer: Beasley
Bulls need a superstar: can't go wrong with either one
Bulls need a leader: Rose
Bulls need a marketable player: don't really know yet.
So either way, I am not worried.. It will be a great dilemma for Paxson.. just don't trade it.

Roman, is Melo really on the trading block? If so would Paxson try and get him somehow? Melo and Rose together would be fun to watch.

I haven't see Rose play much, but I'd hate for the Bulls to reach for him if he's not the goods because other teams are winning in the NBA with star point guards. I'd compare doing this to what teams in the NFL have been doing post Devin Hester, reaching for players in the draft because they could possibly be gifted return men. True, San Antonio, the Jazz, and the Hornets all advanced in the playoffs thanks in large part to gifted point guards. But, unless Packson is sure that Rose is of the same ilk as Paul, Williams, Parker, point guard mania should not seize Pax. He should take the best available player, whether that's Beasley or Rose.

Look kirk hinrich was and is the WORST point guard in all of the NBA. Please take rose, we need an uptempo point guard,wait stratch a point guard period. Hinrch is the main reason we didnt go anywhere.

How fun would it be to watch a D'Antoni led offense with Derrick Rose at the reigns? Derek Rose is NOT Stephon Marbury. I've never seen Marbury make a team better...I saw D. Rose do it in one year.

FORGET BEASLEY AND ROSE, CAN WE USE #1 PICK TO DRAFT A QUARTERBACK FOR THE BEARS?!?!?

Seriously though, this is a high quality problem. Both Beasley and Rose are gonna help us get back into contention. My bigger concern is that we're going to skimp on coaching salary and go with a no name coach to save some coin. Avery Johnson, no thanks.

I admit that Hinrich is not a great point guard, but I don't know if he's totally the reason the bulls did not win last year. It seemed to me the Bulls shooters often went cold this season, as they experienced a lot more hands in their faces. Teams seemed to be guarding the arc, because they knew that the bulls had no real scoring threat down low. If Beasley can remedy that by putting his back to the basket and scoring, the bulls shooters get a lot more open looks, and I think they might be able to win even with Kirk running the point. I don't know if this team needs to be blow up yet; give them a low post presence, see what they do, and if it's nothing again then they have no excuses and should be blown up. The bulls have a lot of time, money, and effort in some of these guys; enough where they might deserve one last shot.

Bulls get the #1 pick, Whitesox win and stay in 1st place, Obama clinches pledged delegates. Triple CROWN NIGHT!!!! Somebody pinch me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to go for a run or something!!!!! I feel like Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School!!!

Mortimer!!! Yes Randolph?
Were baaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trading Places!!!!!

With all the talk over the last few years about the Bulls' lack of a low-block scoring presence, picking Beasley may look appealing. But that should be the end of it: Derrick Rose is an even clearer selection than Roman has made him out to be. He's quick (whoever said he was slow either didn't watch him get into the paint against every team he played against last season or thinks every other ballplayer is also slow), unselfish, can defend both guard positions, can finish at the rim, and already spent a season running an offense that forced him to read defenses on the go. Maybe most importantly, he's a winner and a leader. Once he starts shooting 500 jumpers and free throws a day, he'll be a fine shooter as well.

Paxson now has plenty of leverage with guys looking for new contracts or teams looking to trade. As far as I'm concerned, it's a do or die offseason for him.

The Bulls need to go with Rose and get rid of Hinrich or Gordon. The Bulls are in dire need of a REAL PG. Hinrich doesn't have the mindset of a true PG. He dribbles way too much, makes bad decisions, and doesn't create many opportunities for others.

Beasley would be great to have too, as a real post presence is always a good thing. But the Bulls are desperate for a playmaker and a true leader, both of which are Mr. Rose.

Now, if only the Bulls had a coach...

Just looking at his stats and Rose does not look that special. I know he is supposed to be fast but he really didn't look all that fast to me when I watched him play he did look quick but not fast. In fact I remember people talking about that during the tourney. He reminds me more of Wade than he does of Paul. Also he is not a great shooter and he usually likes to drive rather than rely on his jump shot. I don't think he is a real PG as it stands, I think he could develop into a great PG but it will take a couple years and a lot of work. The kid has huge upside but is still a project also he does not currently fit the bulls style of offense.

Mike Beasley is a stud there is no doubt about it, he like Rose would need some time to develop but is a future allstar.

I can't believe there are people running around here complaining about who to take between these two. Yesterday it was gloom and doom and people hoping that the Bulls would get a shot at either of these guys and now they can pick from either guy they want and people are saying niether guy is any good. Either one of these guys would be a huge upgrade for this team and anyone who thinks otherwise should have his head examined. What is Captain Kirk the Jerk and Gooden still doing for people in this town to the point that they actually would rather have them than Beasley or Rose? You have got to be kidding me. You must be clowning cause the Bulls got the number one pick and believe it or not either way they go is going to be a good thing.

Personally I just hope they don't trade away the pick on some washed up former injury prone allstar

THERE IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get Rose and say bye bye to Gordon, or trade for some experience player(s) we have too many youngsters.

Rose, Rose, Rose! It has to be Rose. He is Deron Williams and CP3 in one package. A dynamic leader from the backcourt is what drives the successful NBA teams. Beasley reminds me of a lot of players I've seen out of college. He may have a good career but we need a great one. We already have high energy rebounders. We need someone that can make the team better and Rose fits the bill. How great has Deron been for Boozer? What about Paul for Chandler? Rose instantly makes Deng and Thomas better players just by getting them the ball in spots where they can score. Rose, Rose, Rose!!!!!

Anyone who has ever seen Rose play and doesn't think the Bulls have to take him IS NUTS! I love Beasley but Rose is a once in lifetime player. Barring injury, as close to a sure thing is you'll ever find. People looking at his stats vs. Beasley are not seeing the big picture for the Bulls. Anyone who watched the Memphis games in the NCAA Tourney knows Rose is the real deal. Who cares if they already have Hinrich? Drafting Rose and package Hinrich to LAC for Brand. Even without that the Bulls could have a starting backcourt of Thabo and Rose (What mismatches this size backcourt would cause, and with Noah, TT, and Deng, this is the fastest, most athletic lineup in the NBA, with scoring, rebounders and defense to get deep into the playoffs.....and they're all just kids!! Let these guys play together from the start and start another Bull Run!!

Roman can you tell Mariotti not to refer to Englewood as the blood and guns neighborhood. That is a blanket assessment that they don't need. It is just neglected by the Mayor and all those politicians who don't care about them. He can't just make a flip comment like that and not come off as the same thing he always accuse Ozzie of being. I think it's a grave insult to people who are embarrassed that a community they live in isn't taken seriously. And the Bulls should take whoever helps them in the long run. Apples or oranges. Sitting pretty at #1.

I think everyone here is missing the larger point. If we draft Beasley, then we will have three players from Kansas schools on the roster (Hinrich, Gooden, and Beasley). Then we can tell Dorothy that we ARE still in Kansas. Anyway...

On a serious note, I think the decision on who to take first is difficult one, but I would select Derrick Rose. I think he'd have a bigger impact on more players on the team. Let's analyze it for a second. Beasley would affect the guards, freeing guards for open shots. The only concerns there is if he would be that good his rookie year to draw a double team. If he is, this would benefit Ben Gordon the most, as he is the best shooter on the team (and really only good shooter) and is best off the dribble. But if Beasley does not draw double teams, then that point is moot, and we may see the same Gordon (streaking scorer; inconsistent) that we have for the past four years.

I think Rose would transform Tyrus Thomas into the present-day Tyson Chandler. I believe Chandler may still be in Chicago if he had a good point guard while he was here. Chandler owes his development since he departed the Bulls solely to Chris Paul. Although his rebounding has improved, his scoring ability is the same as it was in Chicago. The only thing he does in New Orleans is dunk, and that is the result of Chris Paul's penetration and passing (alley oops). I believe Tyrus Thomas, while not as good a rebounder as Chandler, is a far more athletic and is moderately better offensively. You don't think Rose could provide those lob passes to Thomas. In this way, he's equivalent to Chandler. And Gooden, although not the athlete that Thomas is, has a much more polished offensive game than does Thomas. We may not see alley-oops thrown to him, but his offense would further improve as a result of Rose (example: Utah's Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams).

The Bulls' greatest deficiency since the departure of Elton Brand is not getting any offense from its power forward (name one player who has averaged 12+ points per game). I believe Derrick Rose, while not being a panacea for this deficiency, is a better option, because, at least, he will improve this area. This is something that Kirk Hinrich has been unable to do.

I wouldn't not be disappointed, however, if the Bulls select Beasley (as I watched him a lot and know he will improve the team as well). I just like what Rose can do for this team better.

Rose & Beasley. Package Gordon, parts, & picks to Miami & get that 2nd pick as well.

Wade is a phenomenal talent at a reasonable price for Miami. There is no way they will give him up.

I like Ben but let's be realistic. He's not worth his asking price & he's not willing to budge from it. That's too arrogant for my blood given the season he had.

r u guys 4 real???? Rose?? Cmon if he wasnt from here no way would u be sayin this stuff. We do not I repeat DO NOT need a point guard. Tyrus and Gooden r not good enough. Pick Beasley. He doesnt have behavior problems u people need to stop reading 30 second news columns before making uninformed decisions. His so called problem was him putting his name and jersey number on the deans car BEFORE he was given a final warning but it was found after he was given the warning. Wowee. big deal what a problem child he is. Pick B-Weaseee=Championships ships people dynasty again. then you can trade too short 2 guards lil 1 dimensional over priced gordan and Capt Kirk can finally get a chance to play point which he hasn't been able 2 do since his rookie year..

Well, so much for boring Bulls' threads, Roman. I say pick Rose.

KLS, Love the posts. But you forgot the Cubs' lost. A four piece!!!!! What a day!!!!!!

Rose is a true difference maker at the PG position, someone said he needs to rely on his jumpshot. You can coach shooting, you can't coach his driving to the lane like D Wade. He makes TT way better right now like Chris Paul made Tyson better(he actually caught most of the oops.) I was not impressed with Rose at first, but after seeing him in the championship game, outside of a few lapses, he is a very good guard.

Of course I don't watch much college B-Ball, but I know a true PG when I see one, and it took only one game to see he can get to the rim on a lot of guards, and fill it up or toss some alley oops.

Welcome back to Chicago, but you will not be living on the south side this rip!

RIK, there's one small problem with your proposed trade to Miami, it WON'T happen!! NBA trades are predicated on matching salaries and not draft picks. Beasley is the pick because he commands a double team. Sorry Simeon fans.

wow is this really happening? cnt go wrong with either pick, both fill your needs, but i think it has o be rose. he is a better prospect than paul or williams were in college. if rose is drafted then we need to somehow get rid of hinrich. with rose penetrating ben gordon will be open all day long. rose immediately makes a huge impact and makes everyone better. tyrus, noah, and deng all become better b/c of the attention he will draw. this is just a great day for bulls fans.
nice lineup:
rose
thabo
deng
thomas
noah
bench:gordon, nocioni, gooden,hughes. great depth.
oh and by the way, all of you who say that we don't have anyone that can guard a #2 guard, did u all just suddenly forget how good of a defender thabo is? seriously get a clue.

Superstar PG or C, hard to find.
SG/SF/PF plenty of them on the block.
Rose all the way, no brainer.

Let's put this in perspective. If these were football players then Rose is Peyton & Beasley is Adrian. It's a no-brainer. Peyton is a general on the field. Rose is a general on the floor.

With Rose you can pkg Gordon,Thomas & whatever to upgrade at power forward through trade. Maybe that guy is Beasley via Miami's pick if they are high on Gordon.

TAKE ROSE PLEASE!! I don't care where he's from. Both of these players are going to be good but, Rose will be great. He will also be able to make an immediate impact. Big men can take some time to develop and can be injury prone. Rose has the size and strength to be an all star guard for a long time. His court vision and bball smarts will make the whole team better. Beasley could end up like Brand but, he could end up like Curry also. Draft ROSE!!!

What you are currently witnessing in todays playoff's is what you must take into account in drafting the best option for your francise. No one player can win a championship, in today's league you can get 6'9 atheletism all day. What you can't find everyday is a point guard that makes EVERYONE on the court with him better. Hinrik is not that player. He has had more than enought time to develope and he hasn't. CUT OR TRADE HIM, move on. Cut Duhon, Gordon is a 4th quater(microwave type) bench player. Let THABO AND ROSE RUN THE DAMN COURT!! All of your big men are IMMEDIATELY better and all that so called POITENTIAL will finnaly show up in Chicago. SOMEONE PLEASE ALERT JOHN PAXON THAT THE DRAFT IS SIX WEEKS AWAY, NOT SEVEN OR EIGHT.SOMEONE PLEASE DRAW HIM A PICTURE THAT SHOWS HIM MAKING THE FIRST ( 1st ) PICK AND NOT THE ELEVENTH. LAST COMMENT, CUT GROSSMAN TOO!!!

While both players are projected to be stars, the Bulls need a solid point guard who makes the players around him better. Hinrich has never done that. Never - and he's an enigmatic streak player who is consistently outplayed by better guards. The Bulls need a consistent solid floor leader, and hopefully Rose will develop into that type of player.

It's a no-brainer that the Bulls should pick Rose and ship out some of the dead weight. I will be shocked and disheartened if they take Beasely.

I think John Paxson is gonna mess this up big time. He is proving to be the Matt Millen of the NBA. Every chance he has had to put together/keep a team with chemistry, he has flopped. He has proven his hard line tactics will only get coaches fired and players traded. All along, we are not winning, even in the Eastern Conference where the Atlanta Hawks and Toronto Raptors made the playoffs. I'm telling you, he's gonna try to pull off the "business" thing to do.

Here's what he should do: He should draft the Chicago Kid Derrick Rose. No-brainer. He has had ZERO off the court problems and he is a stand up citizen. He's built like a tank but he's smooth and quick like a 2008 vette. If you look around the league, all the playoff teams had/have premier PG play and that is what Kirk Hinrich does NOT give you, and Ben Gordon is not a PG - but if he was, he would not give you what this kid can. Derrick Rose - RIGHT NOW - can play with any PG in the league. Watching him through high school and that one year of college a blind man could see this kid was special. He does it all and hes very unselfish (something we are going to have to work outta him Chicago). Unleashed on a open court where he truly is faster than 95% of NBA players with the ball, he is going to wreak havoc. Chris Paul? I saw Dee Brown and Deron Williams put him on ice. Deron Williams? They said he would be too fat, and he has to work a little extra to keep that weight off. Now they are both running the league. Derrick is better than both. And hes a winner. Of course, there will be a learning curve, but this kid is the truth. He will be a force from Day 1. And he will be a force for a LONG, LONG, time.

But we have John Paxson and he's trying to escape the Krause shadow, you know, to make stamp his own little era. So here is what he more than likely will do:
Draft Michael Beasley who sucked it up this year and played ball. From close insiders, he was the same arrogant kid he was when he was bouncing around high schools and AAU teams, but he saw through it this year to just play ball. He'll draft Beasley because he is a big man who can play outside. He's got long arms and seems to get every loose ball and bottom line, the kid has game. Real hard to find someone who has his paint skills. But will he play for Paxson's regime? After he gets that first paycheck, will he send for all his troops back home and put him on a Tank Johnson path? I don't know, but I sure wouldn't want to take the risk.

Ok most of you dont know what you are talking about. Just look at what CP3 did for Tyson Chandler's career. Rose will do the same thing for Noah and Thomas. Just face the fact that Ben will not re-sign with the Bulls but hopefully Deng will and the Bulls will be back in the playoffs next year!

Oh yeah, I voted on the sun-times pick and it went right into Mary-otti's column. He was a primary instigator to trade Brand X(as he so put it), deriding Krause at every moment about the drafting of Brand and Artest, now he calls it ill advised, in fact he rode crumbs because Elton was only a 20-10 player and not a difference maker. What an A$$hole, and I honestly mean that.

The reason, I grew up in Englewood. It was a neighborhood, I had as many problems in some of our "better" neighborhoods than my own, my car was stolen on the north side, (north clark by hey sushi,) not the south side. In fact, I usually visit Damen ave still. He needs to watch his words, but he won't. WRD, you are right. Absolutely.

Every good team needs a leader. Quality PG are rare. What makes you think that Beasley will require double teams when he hasn't even proven himself. What he's done in college means nothing on the pro level. I would trade Deng and other undesireables for Carmelo [if available] and Gordon, and other undesireables for Brand. Rose would be my choice here.

Can someone explain to me why everyone's raving about someone who scored 15 points and 5 assists a game in *college*??

I don't get it. His team was better than USC's so they got more pub, but if you're going to go for a gaurd, at least go with Mayo, who had better stats and is bigger.

You all crack me up.

Will it really matter who the Bulls draft? What in the recent history gives you confidence that they can develop talent? Paxson has turned this team into the 90's Golden State Warriors. We have had how many coaches in the last 10 years? We currently have no coach. Our best prospect is now the current coach of the Milwaukee Bucks! Noah and Gordon are the future. I say build around those two and hire the best young defensive minded coach and rebuild-again...

Hinrich is still a bum!

D Rose is the only choice. I previously advised Paxon to draft Brandon Roy and he ignored that advise. I hope he reads and understands his job is one more stupid draft choice away from hanging with me talking trash about the next guy in his present job. John if you need help call me Iam willing to help. The bulls are my passion and all of Chicago would love to see them win again. D Rose is the first step in that direction. Also do not listen to Ben Gordon haters retain him at all cost he is part of a winning tradition and will aid us in the future beleve me on this one. He will take big shots and make them because his heart is bigggggggggg and he loves to win.

What should the Bulls do next?

We are going to loose Ben Gordon, Chris Duhon, and Shannon Brown due to Free agency. Use part of their salaries to sign Jermaine O’Neil or Kurt Thomas at Center. Both, O’Neil and Thomas, are free agents. O’Neil is in injury prone and Thomas is getting old. It’s a risk, but it’s worth taking. Both should not cost Bulls much, and will have their defensive skills be a plus for the Bulls.

Gilbert Arenas is an Unrestricted Free Agent. Since he probably wants a lot of money, Bulls should try to get him by
Sign and Trade:
Kirk Hinirch
Tyrus Thomas
Cedric Simmons
And any left over money

*Bulls owns the 39 pick (2nd Round) of the 2008 NBA draft. Knowing the Bulls loves guards, they would probably draft a Point Guard.

Bulls will have an awesome team! We have room for 3 other players to sign for a minimum. Some players would want to sign with the Bulls for minimum just to win a Championship. Look at this year’s Celtics. Lots of players wanted to play for them because they knew that the Celtics have a good team.

Bulls 2008-2009 Roster:
Gilbert Arenas PG
Larry Hughes SG
Jermaine O’Neal C
Michael Beasley PF
Luol Deng SF

Bench:
Thabo Sefolosha SG
James OnCurry SG
Aaron Gray C
Joakim Noah C
Andres Nocioni SF
Demetris Nichols SF – Resigned through free agency
Drew Gooden PF
Rookie PG
*Any player that would sign for veteran minimum PG
*Any player that would sign for veteran minimum PF
*Any player that would sign for a minimum ?

the only hope for the bulls is if they really break through with the little known 2 for 1 draft option and get both Beasely and Rose.
only one of them isnt going to make much differnece for a team that drafts a scrub like Noah, head case like Thomas, and grossly overpays gym rat Hinrich. the bulls suck and will continue to suck until Reinsdorf and Paxson are gone.

Gordon the Bulls future???? Gordon is at best a sixth man. With all the talk the past few seasons of the Bulls lack of a low post presence their lack of a true point guard that can get the ball to the post has been even more glaring. I don't understand why some posters have questioned Rose's ability to defend opposing teams 2 guard, that's Thabo and Hughes's or Hinrich's job. I also don't understand why so many want to package Thomas off in a trade when Rose will do for Thomas what Paul has done for Chandler and some of those same people have lamented the loss of Chandler. Rose has the ability to make the entire team more productive, something Beasley doesn't do.

BTW Keith could you please show a little more enthusiasm here? I feel you're holding back.

Where to start?

Some of these posts are just ridiculous.
We have, finally, a low-post scorer & rebounder. His name is Drew Gooden.
We have Tyrus, Joakim, Gray, Nocioni and Deng, to boot.
Some of you posters, I'm sure, must not have watched many Bulls games last year.

Hinrich was just AWFUL, particularly in the fourth quarter. He became so consistent at over dribbling the ball, and then turning it over - Damn near EVERY SINGLE game, that you could set your watch by it.

We've got plenty of athletic players with size. We have no one - NOBODY - Who can drive the lane whenever he chooses to do so and, wait for it...FINISH at the basket.

You take Rose - Period. Your starting backcourt is Rose & Thabo, with Deng, Gooden, and Noah/Gray filling out the frontcourt.
You don't even have to trade ANYONE, other than Hughes, because your bench now has a full second team of 'could-be' starters in Gordon, Hinrich, Nocioni, Ty Thomas, and Gray/Noah.

Are you kidding me?

Does ANYONE understand how much better and effective our second unit becomes, as most of them are used to facing NBA starters?

Good Grief Charlie Brown!

John Paxson has done nothing thus far to help the Bulls but he could make up for his mediocrity by taking Derrick Rose. But don't take my word for it. Here is what New York Daily News columnist Mike Lupica had to say about Rose in his column after Memphis put a beatdown on UCLA in the NCAA semifinals:

"And Chris Douglas-Roberts, a Detroit kid, had 28 points and seemed to get points every time he needed them. And none of them is the reason why Memphis is here this big in San Antonio; the biggest reason is the freshman out of Simeon High School in Chicago, who even on a relay team like the Memphis Tigers seemed to be playing at a different speed last night, occasionally seemed to be playing a different game from everybody else
"You got a bad team, how do you take anybody else (in the draft)except him?" Calipari said after his press conference, walking back to his locker room. "I mean, are you kidding?"
Memphis is going for more than a good season now. It is going for 39-1 and what would be one of the great seasons in college basketball history. It starts with the kid with the ball, a 6-3 guard who plays bigger. There are a lot of star players coming out of college this year. Of course all could help the Knicks. Not like the kid out of Chicago. He's the one."

If Rose is the end all "classic point guard"...why did he average less than 5 assists per game last year for a high scoring team?

We gotta pick Rose on this one. Nowadays pg's are way more important. Look at Tony Parker, Chris Paul, Deron Williams. He's a rare talent and one in a decade player. Beasley got off-court issues and isn't committed to d and if we're gonna choose him, who's gonna be our pg our distributor? Hinrich? Duhon? While Rose is a floor leader and that's what the Bulls really need now, a true pg. Someone who can control the game and gets everyone involved.

ahh... the DoneghyBall smiled kindly on our Bulls...I'm going to wikipedia right now... give him credit for it

TIMMAY!!

Just Hire Ty Corbin...

Here is what DA BULLS!!!!!(sorry im still excited about this #1 pick!!!)Draft Derrick Rose he is a superstar... somethin i havent seen in chicago since i was 14 yrs old...im 24 NOW!!! If da Nuggets wanna get rid of Melo...trade Luol Deng and Kirk Hinrich for Melo and a second round pick....the startin five for YOUR CHICAGO BULLS!!!!!!!!!!
Joakim Noah
Drew Gooden or Tyrus "Alley Oop" Thomas(i think D Rose will do for Tyrus what Chris Paul is doin for Tyson Chandler...if Tyson was still here he would still be a ball fumblin,foul trouble bum!!!)
Carmello Anthony
Thabo Sefolosha or Larry Hughes
Derrick Rose
U still have Ben Gordon,Noch,Tyrus or Gooden,Thabo or Hughes on the bench(cant forget about big AARON GRAY lol)
Now dats a championship contender(and we are in the EAST!!!)
GO BULLIES!!!!!!!!!!

Allan - I nearly died laughing at your roster. Literally. Died.

Is there a "Brad Sellers" or "Ralph Sampson" type player in the draft? He would fit into Paxson's penchant for soft players who kinda sorta looked good in college, but are marginally successful in the NBA.

The Bulls should take Rose. A good Point Guard is the backbone of a team. However, they must!! trade for an inside scoring threat. They dont have that now.

If you look at all the teams with great young point guards, Nash-Paul-Kidd, I dont remember any of them reaching or winning the finals. The one perrenial playoff team that drives deep into the playoffs every year, and probably will take it all again in 08- the Spurs. And what to they have? A great PG in Parker, and the best low post scorer of his era, Duncan.

Draft Rose, and trade for a big man - and the Bulls are back in business.

Damn!
I did not here about this until this morning. You have to pick Derrick Rose.
Michael Beasley is very good and if they had gotten the #2 pick and took him I would be happy with that but they lucked out here. This is the year to get that #1 pick because Rose can do it all and is going to be a franchise player.
The Bulls desperatly need a leader on the floor Rose is that player.
Trade Hinrich to Miami, team up Rose and Gordan in the back court and then watch every team in the NBA wet their pants trying to match up with them.

Pax for all that is Holy please, please take Rose...A break down point guard with vision and who can score does not come along that often and as so many in this league have proven (Paul, D. WIlliams, Nash) that you can win and make the playoffs without a ton of talent around you (ie Paul has made T. Chandler a stud). He is the catalyst behind what could be a good and fun team to watch. Beasley has the chance to become an average player, where Rose doesn't. He is too quick, too skilled of a player to not succeed. Pax please don't look to the past of the sturdy slow white PG (ie Hinrich)...his day has passed. We need to look at the future and what the PG spot means in todays game...WE NEED ROSE!

Wow, look at all these Bulls posts all of a sudden! Winning the NBA lottery sure revitalized interest in the Bulls again and none too soon. Reinsdorf sure lucked out big time because this franchise was on the verge of a colossal collapse. Better thank the NBA for the favor!

Based on this team's needs, Derrick Rose is the obvious choice for the Bulls, but I hate to say it, he's still a raw talent that needs time to develop. For a #1 overall selection, I like a more finished product who can already take over some games in his rookie season. It bothered me when Rose missed those clutch shots and clutch free throws in the NCAA Championship game. Plus, he "only" averaged 4.7 assists a game at Memphis which isn't that much considering all the talent that he was surrounded with on that team and at 14.9 pts a game, he didn't exactly light up the scoreboard either. Rose is not a slick passer like Kidd or Paul and he committed over 2.7 turnovers a game which is a LOT. The Bulls still need an accomplished go-to scorer down the stretch, but at least Rose knows how to help his team win games while Beasley is more of a stat stuffer in my opinion. The potential is there, but boy, we sure have heard that before with so many of our other guys. Pax still has to nail this next coaching hire. We need solid teachers in our coachng staff, not Zen master psychiatrists who know how to handle NBA superstar egos.

IF anyone us afraid of the small back court with Rose, I am pretty sure the Bulls are starting Thabo at the 2 next year. He was the only Bull to play well most of the year and he is a big 2 who is devoloping a offensive game. I see a line up of Rose Thabo Deng Tyrus/Gooden and Noah. Gordan or Heinrich gone. What do people think?

Bulls recent draft history
2007 Jo Noah - Florida (Final Four)
2006 Tyrus Thomas - LSU (Final Four)
2005 no pick
2004 Ben Gordon/Loul Deng/Chris Duhon - Duke/UCONN (Both Final 4)
2003 Kirk Hinrich - Kansas (Final Four)
2002 Jay Williams - Duke (Final Four)

I think everyone can stop speculating of who Pax will take. If 5 years in a row isn't considered a trend, then what is?

2008 Derrick Rose - Memphis (Final Four)

Roman responds: Good post.

In John Paxon I trust. What a great position to be in, and what an exciting time for Chicago fans. No matter who John chooses at #1, the ramifications are truely tremendous. I have no problem with our current players, they served us well in the past and now they are going to serve us even better as trade material. I don't know if indeed C. Anthony and Elton Brand are available, as some articles say, but if they are, we certainly have the assets to trade for them if we select Rose, and I'm not sure we would have to, if Gooden improves under Rose, together with Noah and Thomas. I can't contain my excitement over our future and I believe it is in great hands with Mr. Reinsdorf and Mr. Paxon at the helm. Go Chicago.......

Rose is a no brainer, to me he is a D Wade and Chris Paul hybrid. Paxson shouldnt keep his job just because he got a lucky bounce, get rid of him. Jump in that Denver deal and package a deal including Hinrich, Deng and Thomas for Melo and Camby.
That gives you a starting five of Rose, Gordon, Melo, Noah and Camby. Still leaves you with a solid bench - Nocioni, Hughes, Gooden,and Duhon

I'm kinda torn between the two choices. My first and immediate inclination is to take Beasley. Beasely has been consistent the entire season. He has been the far and away player of the year in the NCAA this past season. Drafting Beasley finally gives the Bulls an offensive threat in the post. Of course that opens it up for the guards that are currently on the Bulls. One of the reasons the Bulls were unsuccessful last year was because every opposing team knew that our offensive consisted off driving and kicking out to a shooter.

Now having said that, Rose can and will attack the basket. I also think that Rose improves the play of our athletic big men. One thing that worries me about Rose is him missing free throws in the clutch during the tourney. That may end up haunting him his entire career. JWILL was the last "can't miss" pg. He struggled mightily his rookie season (except for his triple double against Jason Kidd). And JWILL had issues at the free throw line in the clutch.

So I see pros and cons to both players. I think free agency should also be a consideration. Baron Davis will more than likely be moved. We know Arenas is leaving. Now Carmelo is on the block. All of this needs to be considered. Oh, and did I mention that we don't have a head coach yet?

One thing is for sure....get ready for a wild ride this season!

TeeLoo, good post (although not the first time that has ever been pointed out) but if that trend led to a disaster 2007/2008 season, how do you know Paxson doesn't decide to strategize differently this time around? The case for drafting College players from Final Four teams no longer holds any value given the Bulls problems producing an NBA superstar. They will still conduct workouts, interviews and one-on-one drills closed to the public and Paxson is more determined than ever to get this right this time around. Rose is not a sure fire thing. I still see a lot of flaws in his game and he still needs to be developed properly, especially his consistency. Someone like LeBron, you could already tell that he was a once in a lifetime talent in high school.

I would not be surprised if our #1 pick is traded in a package deal if it meant bringing in a more accomplished NBA superstar to the team. Drafting Rose just makes it a lot tougher to for Pax to overhaul the crowded guard position that I'm sure every other NBA team is already aware of and will likely try to lowball us in trade talks. Reinsdorf and Pax are not the types to just cut their losses for nothing in return, so I'm not ruling out a draft day trade in the least bit. What if you got a Baron Davis & Brandan Wright (both in Don Nelson's doghouse) in return or a Jose Calderon or TJ Ford (one wants to be a full time starter) or perhaps Gilbert Arenas (who Roman doesn't like but is young and a clutch performer) in return on a package deal involving other Bulls players? Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer they draft Rose and retool the roster from there, but the Bulls will most certainly have to trade some of their guards and I'm not so sure that we'll get fair value in return. Just keeping in in perspective, folks! Paxson still has a ton of work to do!

Bulls Backcourt:

PG: Rose
SG: Thabo

They go from the smallest weakest defensive backcourt to the biggest and best defensive backcourt ... Pax if you really love defense this is a no brainer.

Will Tyrus and/or Noah flourish with Rose like Chandler did immediately with Paul?

Who is Beasely going to make better?

Trade Hinrich, Gordan, Noce and anybody else they may want for a veteran superstar like Arenas or Mello.

What a gift, let's not blow this!

bulls should draft rose and will. but i really think they need look into acquiring some legitimate scorers ala. Carmelo Anthony. He is on the block, how good would he look with rose?? I think an interesting possibility is Miami's pick. Pat Riley last night sounded very disappointed and i think he is inclined to trade that pick. Draft Rose, then send a package of whatever the heat want and two future 1st round picks for the #2 overall. Then we could get beaseley and rose. That would be sick.

What do Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul all have in common?

0 Championships.

Rose should be the pick. Please don't let the bulls mess this up like the Atlanta Hawks did with Chris Paul.

This team has NO leadership. I doubt Beasley will bring that. You can't just sign a 10th man veteran and say that is leadership. The best player should lead. Draft Rose. Move any guards that can bring back anything. I'm not delusional enought to think Marion, Melo, or Brand are coming for Gordon or Heinrich. Let Rose lead this team.

What about trading the pick for Wade?

Its not either or, it should be both. The rumor is that Miami wants Rose, Beasley not so much. Paxson needs to wake up and do something bold. The Bulls take Rose, and trade anyone not named Noah, Thomas, or Sefolosha to Miami for the #2 pick and get Beasley too. Start with Hinrich, Gordon, Gooden and even Deng if necessary. Blow Miami away. Move Thomas to starting small forward, Thabo should start at 2, but Hughes and his contract probably will. Would love to see Rose, Thabo, Tyrus, Noah, and Beasley starting this November.

I figured that I would read and hear the typical idiocy from most Chicago Fans today! First off, I could care less what the Bulls "need". You don't draft players for need. You are supposed to draft the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE! Well, unless you are in Chicago. Then you take an Offensive Lineman instead of a position player because you "need" that! The Bulls should draft Rose because not only is he the most versitale and best player in the draft, but he makes other players better! I think Beasley will be a BEAST as well, but the only way you take him is if he is 7'1" instead of 6'9". It doesn't really matter though because the Bulls are gonna draft somebody out of Kennedy King College anyway!

I love how people are saying Rose should be the hands-down pick. There's nothing hands-down about this. Rose has star-level talent yet Beasley answers a huge need. I don't envy Pax's position at all.

This is Nate not Juan btw: Now Rose and his so called b-ball IQ everyone keeps talking about where is it is it supposed to come after he gets drafted because it was not there in college championship game when it was supposed to b cus if it was we would b talking about him being a champ compared to Beasley losing in second round. He had a chance to use his so called high IQ at the end of the BIGGEST game of his life and what did he do? Did he foul his man? Nooooo. Did he at least play close and let him drive by him and make it a free throw game? Nooooo. He let his man fake him and hit the game tying 3 down 3 and you let somone actually shoot a 3(which he almost fouled him too) now thats just smart. Now I know some of you will blame the coach ala Skiles. Now after this collASSal blunder he then doesn't call a t.o. or sets up a way to get a good shot in essence HE CHOCKED BIG TIME. Now if u think this doesn't mean much when he gets in the NBA check out Chris Webber's career. Nuff said Beasley all the way. Instant wins can play KG can give Wallace fits can play D can REBOUND both off and def like crazy. With him and Noah we have a TEAM and if you keep Gordan-which I wouldn't- he can provide scoring off the bench until he leaves as unrestricted or decides to play the point. Package Kobe(Gordan and Deng) for the nets two picks, who then would use those extra pieces for Melo and get another 7 footer preferrably 7'2 from Georgetown and Brandon Rush now we could actually compete with the Jameses and Garnetts of the East.

I'm from Memphis. Rose played as a freshman on a very experience team, and made them much better. His teammate, CDR was 1st team All American. Beasley was the go to man on his team. CDR was the first go to man on Memphis all year. Rose is very strong, and no one all year was able to stay with him when he turned the burner on. He can flat get to the rim, and made some unbelievable shots numerous times. He can get better on his outside shot, but he is pretty good. He makes good decisions, and his turnovers were low considering how fast he played. Rose will get even better. I think that Beasley will be good, but when he gets against top pro competition, he will not show the numbers he had in college. The Bulls cannot go wrong with either, but I would take Rose. He will make the other players better with his excellent passing. I sure wish we had the opportunity to take him as a Memphis Grizzley.

Draft Rose, Trade Hinrich, Thomas, deng, and 1st rounder for Carmelo Anthony, and Camby. Instant contenders in the east!

No one on this blog is happier than I am!!! We are BACK like a rebel makin trouble! Chuck you are wrong for mentioning the Cubs (cheezing with my head turned sideways)!

Look - Paul G. is absolutely right! Rose + Thabo = two great defenders who can handle the ball and deal with the REAL guards in this league! Every team in the East took a step forward! And someone is going to have to deal with Rondo, Bibby, Billips, Redd, Childress, etc.

Tim and many posters are right. Rose is the kind of guy that will make the Bulls entire ROSTER better. He thinks pass first, and can shoot, handle the ball and go to the basket and throw it down like Baron Davis! THAT my friends is what is missing the MOST on the Bulls Roster. And many of you posters have it right!! Tyrus, Noah, and Gooden are going to FEAST on his passing! And Gordon and Noch are going to feast on open shots in the 4th! And hopefully PAX has a trainer TEATHERED to Aron Gray like Sidney Poitier in the Defiant Ones! Just making him run every day!!!

So LONG Deng and Kirk or Hughes. Thats my trade if i'm Pax.

Why Not Both?
Trade Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas to Miami for the number 2 pick. That deal will be better than anything Miami can hope to get elsewhere. Then the Bulls will have a team for the next ten years.

This is a no-brainer if you will ever see one, Derrick Rose!!!
Quality low-post scoring big men are far more abundant in the NBA than all-star quality point guards.

Compare the draft opportunities for the Bulls by position for the past ten years:

PF PG
-------------- ----------------
Elton Brand Tony Parker
Eddie Curry T.J. Ford
Pau Gasol
Zach Randolph
LaMarcus Aldridge
Amarie Stoudamire
David West
Al Jefferson

Now consider the fact Rose has not only the skills to guard opposing post-up guards like Jason Kidd, Deron Williams, and Chauncey Billups, he can even guard a smaller two such as Dwayne Wade, Michael Redd, Ray Allen, and Josh Hayes. Neither Kirk Heinrich, Ben Gordon(D. Wade killed him), or Chris Duhon can do this. All the Bulls have to do is work with the kid to extend his shooting range of the likes of Deron Williams and they can plug in
a Eastern Conference contender in 3 years, guaranteed!!!

I say trade away as many players on the current roster as possible with the exception of Luol Deng, Jokim Noah, Sefolosha, and maybe Tyrus Thomas(athletic finishing skills.) Sign Elton Brand back to Chicago, then go after Kobe Bryant next year or Dwayne Wade the year after to secure to 2 spot!!

I BELIEVE THIS A SIGN OF GOOD THINGS TO COME FROM ALL THE VIOLENCE CHICAGO TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS GUY MADE IT OUT AND IS COMING BACK TO INSPIRE YOUTH WITH A NEW FAITH!!!I GUESS PATIENCE IS AN VIRTUE AND GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT !!! GOD IS THAT GOOD!!!! CHICAGO AND ENGLEWOOD STAND UP!!! JOHN PAXSON JUST GOT A BIGGER BLESSING THAN HITTING THE CHAMPIONSHIP CLINCHING SHOT IN PHOENIX(93)!!! A ROSE IS ABOUT TO GROW FROM THE CONCRETE!!!! WE ALL ARE WITNESSES I SAY THAT IN THE MOST HUMBLING WAY!!!!EVEN ALL THE GANGBANGERS HAVE TO STOP AND LOOK AT THIS 1!!!WE WINNIN BABY!!!

Rose is going to be a great player in the league. i think he will be a more explosive version of Darron Williams. But for the Bulls Beasley is just a better fit. they have Larry Hughes who needs the ball in his hands to be productive, while also having several other gaurds who are productive. they have no inside presence and Beasely will fit their atheltic gaurds that they have and Drew Gooden can help bring him along. Beaseley is a younger version of Derick Coleman, and will be a consistent 20 and 10 guy

Alan, Jermaine O'Neal is a team pariah ask any avid Pacer's fan, they would love to get rid of him.
Edgar the reality is any player coming out of college is a raw talent that needs developing, some are just less raw than others.
CP3 wasn't an overnight sensation neither was Tony Parker and no one is going to transform the Bulls overnight into a 60+ win team but draft Rose and make decent trade packaging Gordon, Hughes and possibly Noce for another solid front court player and your getting closer. Just for the record I like Noce but think with Rose (who is a team leader which the Bulls sorely lack)at the point Ty Thomas becomes more of a threat down low than Noce.

The bulls have to draft Rose...if Chris Paul can make Tyson Chandler look like an all star...Rose can do the same with Thomas and Noah running on the wings...he can break down defenses unlike Hinrich...or maybe package Hinrich or Gordon along with Thomas to bring back the El-Train Elton Brand...and now we have our point guard for the next decade and our low post 20-10 player that the bulls should never have traded in the first place...forget Beasley...this reminds of the draft with Michael Jordan and Sam Bowie...Beasley will be decent...but Rose is a franchise type player the Bulls can build around...u look at the playoff teams this year and theyre all lead by their point guards...Paul, D. Williams, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups...Hinrich just cant keep up with those guys...Rose is clearly the #1 pick hands down and will lead the Bulls to a championship once again (if not more)

Good post Keith.

Can't argue about a thing you said regarding Rose.

Which is exactly why Paxon will blow it, and either trade down, or select a player of lesser talents that he thinks (oxymoron?) is more of a 'good character' guy.

Rose grew up on what Mariotti insultingly referred to as the mean streets of Englewood.

So according to Jay, his character immediately comes into question. (Did he attend school with anyone who dealt drugs? Did he know any bad guys?)

Huh???

I think Rose turned out just fine, being born and raised in what anyone would consider to be a difficult and poverty stricken environment.

Pax can keep his so called 'good characters' ... give me guys who can play top level NBA basketball on a nightly basis.

"The Bulls take Rose, and trade anyone not named Noah, Thomas, or Sefolosha to Miami for the #2 pick and get Beasley too"

Quite possibly the dumbest post I have ever read here...well done bigway

the bulls will 100% pick rose its not even a question i dont think beasly will be as good as he was in college he is bearly 6'8 and the only reason he scored alot is that he played on a team with no stars and pushed around guys that doesnt have nba size he kinda reminds me of waymen tinsdale or stacy king good college players that wont be as good in the pros derrick rose will go #1,if paxon passes on rose he wouldnt be able to walk down the street,bulls want another jordan type star not a left handed trouble maker

the bulls will 100% pick rose its not even a question i dont think beasly will be as good as he was in college he is bearly 6'8 and the only reason he scored alot is that he played on a team with no stars and pushed around guys that doesnt have nba size he kinda reminds me of waymen tinsdale or stacy king good college players that wont be as good in the pros derrick rose will go #1,if paxon passes on rose he wouldnt be able to walk down the street,bulls want another jordan type star not a left handed trouble maker

If Pax doesn't pick D. Rose he will be gone in the next 3 years. Derrick Rose is the obvious overall pick no matter who is selecting. If the Bulls don't select rose with the overall # 1 pick I won't be a fan for them much longer they have a log jam at power forward with gooden, thomas, and noah and they don't have a true point guard...ROSE is the obvious pick here, he is a chitown native who will make all players around him better, that cant be said for lazy I mean beezlayzy hahaha MIAMI is screwed!!!

John Paxson was a fine player and made a good shot one time in the playoffs but as a GM he is a total bust. I want anyone out there to tell me one thing he has done right as GM in two years except make a lot of money. Derrick Rose is a franchise player and should be signed immediately. Then I would suggest that Paxson resign and go into private life perhaps focusing on the lawn care business or maybe become more ambitious and secure a position as a greeter at Wal-Mart. Those are respectable jobs but at this point Paxson qualifies for nothing more. Firing Scott Skiles was a disgrace. If you draft Beasley, John Boy, you are toast.

Yeah Keith!!!!! I'm jacked up too!!!!! Rose! Rose! Rose!

We have to address three issues to get the most value out of this #1 pick. First, do you trade the pick or keep it? Second, if you keep the pick who do you take? Third, who'll coach the team?

First, let's see..what if Cleveland, afraid of losing Lebron to a major media town when his tract is up, offered him for the number #1 pick, Tyrus and Deng (in a sign and trade)? Unlikely yes, very unlikely, but if it happened, what would you do? I think Pax is wise to play his cards close to the vest and examine all options this early in the game.

That being said, if you keep the pick, I think Rose is the only choice. Beasley is a beast, but he's not a potential superstar point guard. Superstar point guards are just too valuable to pass up. Even if the Bulls had Deron Williams or Chris Paul, I'd still advise taking Rose with the #1 pick; this pick is really a no-brainer.

The coach the Bulls need right now to lead them to a championship in the next 5 years is the hard thing. There's really no one coach on the market with all the creditials, the best of the group to relate to this Bulls team may be Avery Johnson. Its a relatively youngish team, with some good talent and a couple restricted free-agents and attitude problems; but mostly good guys who want to win. Avery might be able to win them over.

WOW... just WOW!! What a great debate to be able to have! This just made up for all of last year. So Hughes & Hinrich need to start packing their bags cuz THEY GONE! Hughes is gone either way, even if we have to Tim Thomas him as Roman said. D-Ro will help change the entire dynamic of our team. Beasley is a natural scorer, but he is not an Nba PF & will be destroyed if he plays that position. He's like Jamal Mashburn, an oversized 3. Taking Rose opens up so many trade possibilities for the Bulls that would not be there if they take Beaseley. To me it's a no-brainer, you take a floor general & then go get the "little general" as head coach. I couldn't have asked for a better xmas present in the middle of May.

I would like to give credit to all of us bloggers, for being so positive about the Bulls this whole year!!

Amazing what number 1 draft pick will do for a guys blog numbers!!

Rose is the #1 pick. Forget about low post scoring as a need. Everyone knows the Bulls have a team full of "number 2 guys", complimentary players. What the Bulls have lacked, since the days of you know who, is a player explosive enough to demand help defense every time he touches the ball. This obviously forces defenses to rotate, trap, and leave excellent secondary players undefended. Ben Gordon getting 5 more OPEN looks a game can never hurt you. We dont have to watch good players, but less than adequate ball handlers, like Luol Deng try and create his own shot. We dont need perfectly executed offensive sets run to swing the ball to 5-6 differnt players creating an opening for a "Good Look" at a shot. Rose can do this with a crossover and 2 quick steps. As much as I like Kirk, Ben, Luol, and Tyrus, they have proven to me that when push comes to shove...with the clock running down, they have to rely on good ball movement and solid screens to get eachother open. Rose can get them open just by having the ball in his hands.

I think this whole "Let's bring them both in" stuff is just another smoke and mirrors ploy. If Paxson doesn't take Rose it might end his career in the front office in the near future. If I can remember...the Bulls raised ticket prices during a losing season, Pax needs to fills those seats. Rose will guarantee sellouts for the next 10 years at the least. Look what Chris Paul did for New Orleans. NEW ORLEANS??? In the playoff? What? And Chicago sits at home watching who...Paul, Deron Williams, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, Steve Nash...dominant PGs that make their teams better. Remove either one of them and each team become suspect. Then look at the scorers Kobe, Lebron, D.Wade, KG...all guys who need a complimentary player to open them up. Beasley is good and all that but then we need someone to free him up because he will be double teamed and take longer to make an impact for us and we just took a PF in Ty Thomas and got Gooden. We need the PG to develop Deng, Thomas, and Noah. The PG that will not only make everyone better becuz he can penetrate and is pass oriented, but one who will make the Bulls something to see again. Who remembers Chicago when the Bulls won the 1st championship? This might be the next best thing that happened to Chicago since Jordan and Devin Hester!!!! PAX DON'T DROP THE BALL--DRAFT ROSE 4 US and relive the shot that started it all. Jordan drives and kicks out to John Paxson??? for 3!!!

Anyone who thinks the Bulls should draft Beasley should take a look at this link....nuff said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLsaXkMs9XE

go for derrick rose....and trade larry hughes/kirk hinrich..hey they still have tyrus thomas.thomas hasn't been a factor since he was drafted because the bulls doesn't have the point guard to match his athleticism....if they have d.rose, it'll be the second coming of nash and stoudemire

ROMAN PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO PAX
Well I am currently staioned in Iraq, and this certainly was the highlight of my deployment so far. Here is the problem, I don't if any of you watch College ball, but Beasly is not 6'10. At the pre-draft camp he will get measured and I gurantee you he will be closer to 6'7 then he is 6'10 and that makes him a tweener. We don't need a tweener The 1# pick is easy, but you have enough left to do about anything you want, please realize that this automatically makes Rose and Thomas, Nash and Marion east. Thomas and Noah will benefit more than anyone from this pick. It now becomes a money game, because Deng and Gordon are up for contract extentions and Thomas will be up next year, and with Nocioni and Hinrich, Hughes and Gooden you have limited cap flexibility.The Good thing is you have good pieces to trade, Hinrich, Deng, Nocioni, Hughes or maybe even Gordon or package three in a package maybe for the #2 pick or a later pick in the first round. This bit of luck also makes resigning Duhon a priority. For all his transgressions in the past Duhon has been solid, and for the most part a solid citizen, he also understands he is a backup and would be a great mentor for Rose. If I'm correct the rookies won't be up for new contracts until 3 to 4 years. You telling me the Clippers would take Hinrich and Hughes as bad as thie guard situation is. Maybe for the 7th pick so we can take a shot at Deandre Jordan or another homeboy JaVale Mcgee? Would any team picking 12th thru 17th trade thier pick for Deng. We could use that pick to grab Nicolas Batum, a Scottie Pippen clone or Dontae Green a 6'10 small forward. I'm not so worrid about next year especially not having a coach. I just think we could be one of the most athletic teams in the league, and with enough cap space to add the missing piece. Hell I would'nt mind a back court of Mayo and Rose. We already let an athletic Big man go for a muscular midget who could not score in the red light district. A wise man once told me you can teach an athlete to play defense, but you can't teach athletic ability. In this draft we have a chance to 1. Get a true PG 2. Get an athletic 7'0 and 3. get some salary cap relief. This is definitely the draft that can define franchise.

Peace from Iraq

PS remember the name Nicolas Batum

Roman responds: Pax is getting a lot of advice these days, but I'll mention it to him. He's thinking a lot about the troops these days as his son is enlisting in the Marines.
Stay safe.

Obvious pick is Rose, but is this the right pick? NBA lottery champs "da bulls" are assumed to take highly regarded hometown talent numero uno. It's the traditional thing to do.

So why isn't this the best pick? For many reasons, but to begin, how about hometown hyped high school phenom Eddy Curry. How did that home town hook up work out? Playing close to home is no picnic and puts extra strain on a player, for a young inexperienced player on a bad team, it can be enough to sink them or send them to the knicks.

Other reason? How about the teams stated and repeated need has been for a frontline player and scorer. It this is your greatest need why not draft the other consensus top player in the draft that meets you teams greatest need? Beasley. A point guard can make teammeates better but they can't make them more talented. Noah will never be as good as Beasly no matter who is throwing him the ball.

One more reason, heat want Rose, so trade first pick to them for second pick or draft and trade, but get beasley and a couple of picks from miami. Then trade one of the picks and a player or two to draft a point guard lower in the first round, either Augistin or Westbrook.

Taking a point guard as the first pick in the draft isn't getting the most value from the pick, unless your getting Oscar Robertson type player. Is Rose that good? Not nearly the scorer, so go with the big, get beasley. How many times have bulls wished they still had elton brand? Get beasley.

If you could win championships with just a great point guard teams wouldn't be bringing in players from all over the world to play frontline.

Rose is a really good player but beasley is the best pick for the bulls.

Roman responds: Derrick Rose is not Eddy Curry. He's physically and emotionally more mature. Even playing just one year of college ball makes a difference, especially when it ends in the title game. Playing close to home hasn't hurt LeBron too much.
Drew Gooden is a good inside scorer. They need a point.

I'm so happy to be a Bull's fan. I sat and watched bad basketball here all 82 games waiting and hoping for the Bull's to make there run. It never came and now I see why. This is like the San Antonio Spurs getting Tim Duncan the yaer David Robinson was hurt. The Bulls are a playoff team they've proven that but they lost there drive and there direction. PLus I think Deng was hurting all year. It all happened for a reason though they were meant to be in this draft to get the number one pick and two pick up that elusive star we've been talking about. ROSE. Some of the bulls wont make the cut but it appears that even given players contracts doesn't help them play better (Hinrich). Didnt chandler do the same thing but I digress Ben Gordon is to the Bulls what Vinny Johnson was to the Piston or Cooper was to the Lakers for those who don't know there called (instant offense) player. There's no getting rid of your leading scorers thats crazy Gordon and Deng will be here. Hinrich will take a pay cut or he's gone b/c he is and will always be an effective back up point guard. We did win with him he had a bad year it happens. Maybe everyone has forgotten how effective gooden was for us but he showed enough that he's an effective option in the post and 10-15 feet out. So startin five of Rose, Thabo, Deng, Gooden, Noah is a legit Starting roster with Hinrich, Gordon, Noce, Tyrus, Gray spelling them. We dont need to sink the hole ship as Paxson has said. More teams have drafted there championships via building them than through massive trades hasn't always work and we may be seeing another break down right now with the Celtics. You do however need a star a leader on your team and it's best when there one and the same. Now days we want rings today and we don't appreciate the growth it takes time and the proper continuity to make a team work. with Rose we get the playmaker that we dont have and ben now can sit in the corner and wait to shoot and guess what we don't need a screen sometimes at the end of the game so our pg doesn't get double teamed into a turnover. Can we dare to dream 7 seconds on the clock crossover by rose down the lane for a layup. What a concept and for my last one point Rose at the freethrow line shooting his 9th freethrow of the game. Wow . When was the last time we had a guard that could get someone in foul trouble consistently. Damn that was Jordan there's been no one else in 10 years. wow. Yes we needed this draft badly and we have it. Go Bulls Forever fan through the good and the bad time for more good.

Roman, Lebron chokes because hes not consistant with free throws. Derrick choked because he couldn't handle the pressure. The memphis team was a phenomenal team and they got far in the rankings because they were only challenged once in the season being in the Conference USA. Derrick was supposed to win that title game for Memphis but blew it in the final minutes. On the other hand, Beasley has been considered the best College hoops player since the beginning of the season. I'm shocked that you guys are willing to bench hinrich and continue to play guys like Drew Gooden and tyrus thomas who to be honest are really underachieving. Make larry huge your starting PG, and draft beasley. Then you have a solid playoff contending team. Remember, Hughes was in the NBA Finals last year, you don't need anymore guards.

Roman responds: Have you not read anything Larry Hughes said. He doesn't care if he wins. He just wants to play and play the style that suits him. He's a coach-killer who was unhappy when Jim Boylan sat him.

I have two words for the Beasley Supporters ...

Marcus Fizer

Roman responds: I said the exact same thing to a coworker yesterday. Exactly.

People forget that the Bulls have a tremendous amount of TRADE pieces and PLENTY of salary cap room, because of the fact that Deng and Gordon rejected the extensions offered. I'm not sure what league you guys have been watching, but this is the decade of the point guard. Chris Paul, 2nd round playoffs, Deron Williams, 2nd round playoffs, Tony Parker (Nobody can stop this kid) Western conference finals, Chauncey Billups, Eastern conference finals, I mean come on, are you all serious?!?! KG, probably one of the best PF ever has never won a championship because he never has played with a PROVEN point guard (and please don't say Stephen Maurbury, I said PROVEN) If you all have been following the NBA these past couple of days, The Denver Nuggets are looking to move Carmelo Anthony people and if a low post, versitile scoring threat is what you want, there it is. Micheal Beasley is a beast, don't get me wrong, but a double, double PF can be easily made if you have a point guard to get him the ball in the right spots, AKA David West, Tyson Chandler and Carlos Boozer. Now back to Melo, I'm sure the Nets would love to recieve value for him in a trade. Tell me, which trade would you take? Richard Jefferson and Marcus Williams from the Nets for Melo, or Ben Gordon, Larry Hughes, Kirk Hinrich, Drew Gooden and a draft pick. If your thinking that's a lot to give up, please look at those names again and imagine this; Derrick Rose running down the middle of the floor with Tyrus Thomas on the left, Carmelo Anothony on the right, Nocioni in the corner spotting up, and Jokim Noah bringing up the rear for a follow up rebound and Lueol Deng just getting in where he fit in. Thabo, who is steadily improving as your 2 guard, has great size as your 2 guard and is a helluva defender, Duhon, steady as they come off the bench, Aaron Gray, true 7 footer improving, no pressure to score, just rebound, and this draft is deeper than people think, we could get plenty of serviceable players in other rounds to compliment te rest of the bench we have. Now that I have made you all see the light, things sure are looking Rosey... ;-)

People forget that the Bulls have a tremendous amount of TRADE pieces and PLENTY of salary cap room, because of the fact that Deng and Gordon rejected the extensions offered. I'm not sure what league you guys have been watching, but this is the decade of the point guard. Chris Paul, 2nd round playoffs, Deron Williams, 2nd round playoffs, Tony Parker (Nobody can stop this kid) Western conference finals, Chauncey Billups, Eastern conference finals, I mean come on, are you all serious?!?! KG, probably one of the best PF ever has never won a championship because he never has played with a PROVEN point guard (and please don't say Stephen Maurbury, I said PROVEN) If you all have been following the NBA these past couple of days, The Denver Nuggets are looking to move Carmelo Anthony people and if a low post, versitile scoring threat is what you want, there it is. Micheal Beasley is a beast, don't get me wrong, but a double, double PF can be easily made if you have a point guard to get him the ball in the right spots, AKA David West, Tyson Chandler and Carlos Boozer. Now back to Melo, I'm sure the Nets would love to recieve value for him in a trade. Tell me, which trade would you take? Richard Jefferson and Marcus Williams from the Nets for Melo, or Ben Gordon, Larry Hughes, Kirk Hinrich, Drew Gooden and a draft pick. If your thinking that's a lot to give up, please look at those names again and imagine this; Derrick Rose running down the middle of the floor with Tyrus Thomas on the left, Carmelo Anothony on the right, Nocioni in the corner spotting up, and Jokim Noah bringing up the rear for a follow up rebound and Lueol Deng just getting in where he fit in. Thabo, who is steadily improving as your 2 guard, has great size as your 2 guard and is a helluva defender, Duhon, steady as they come off the bench, Aaron Gray, true 7 footer improving, no pressure to score, just rebound, and this draft is deeper than people think, we could get plenty of serviceable players in other rounds to compliment te rest of the bench we have. Now that I have made you all see the light, things sure are looking Rosey... ;-)

DAAAAA BULLLLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still can't believe we are having this discussion....we went from DJ Augustine and Kevin Love...to Derrick Rose and Michael Beasely!!!!!!! WOW!!!! Here is what Pax should do...Draft Rose...Trade Hinrich,Deng second round pick and future first round pick for Melo and Denvers first round pick this yr...startin five would be....
pg Derrick Rose
sg Thabo SEFOLOSHA!!!!(said stacey king style lol)
sf Carmelo Anthony
Pf Tyrus Thomas(he will be a beast with Rose at pg)
C Joakim "Side Show Bob" Noah(he will benefit as well)

Bench: Larry Hughes,Ben Gordon,Noch,BIG AARON GRAY,Drew Gooden,Brandon Rush or Chris Douglas Roberts(pick from Denver)

YEEEEEAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!(Lil John style lol)

Can't say I'm complaining about the number of blog posts, Culzie. I'm just enjoying it while it lasts!

Brian, good post. You're pretty much dead on target. Beasley may turn out to be a better player, but it won't exactly mean that his team will be better. Kansas St. didn't exactly make much noise in the NCAA tournament despite his stats. Why couldn't he carry his team like Stephen Drew did for a much smaller school like Davidson? Beasley actually reminds me of Glenn Robinson. Lofty College scoring stats, had a nice NBA career individually, but his teams never amounted to anything at all. Lucky for Beasley, chances are that he gets to team up with Wade, but it'll be interesting to see if they can develop some chemistry. Looks good on paper though, but Beasley hasn't shown me that he can make his team better like Rose potentially can.

But yes, if Paxson doesn't draft Rose, then he better have pulled off a nice trade or else the Bulls will not only lose more blog posters again, they will take a HUGE hit in marketability. A trade for Dwayne Wade and our 1st pick is not out of the realm of possibility either, especially if Miami is fully committed to rebuilding their team through the draft. Miami is reportedly enamored with Derrick Rose. This is going to be one helluva interesting NBA draft for once.

Tim Little, yes, the reality is that most College players are raw talents that require development, but right now the Bulls don't have mentors and they will likely hire an inexperienced assistant-type coach again. They haven't even shown that they will pay the extra dollar to field a more credible assistant coaching staff (as evidenced with Pete Myers and Mike Brown for example) and now we've lost our top assistant (Boylan) because we threw him into the wolves in a no-win situation as interim head coach that he obviously was not ready for. In my opinion, Rose needs more development than we think and for a #1 overall, I was just hoping for a more finished product like LeBron, that's all. Even Allen Iverson coming out of College looked more ready for the NBA and more explosive than Rose. It doesn't mean that I'm against Paxson drafting Rose, far from it, but I'm still concerned that they can still screw things up somehow after the fact.

My best scenario for the Bulls: Draft and keep Derrick Rose. Trade Hinrich and Nocioni (include Hughes if someone wants to take on an expiring contract) to another lottery team in the draft (I'm hoping Charlotte or the Clippers who need just about everyone) for their lottery pick and then draft Kevin Love at #7, #8 or #9. Rotating a front line of Noah, Love, Gooden and T. Thomas would be tremendous. We need more players with solid fundamentals and high basketball IQ, something I question with Beasley right now. I love it when people say that Kevin Love is too slow and not athletic. Well, Mehmet Okur and Arvydas Sabonis is/was slow but solid NBA players and Love is a combination of both. That kid can play on my team anytime and will average a double-double by his 2nd season in the NBA, hands down.

Last night watching Kobe in the second half and Parker in the first half is why the Bulls should go for Rose over Beasley. When the scoring is tight, he can bring the ball up and control the game with the ball in his hand. Beasley will have to wait for someone to get it to him. Do any of u trust Kirk or Ben to get him the ball in that spot? A great guard is a game changer. Big men can be doubled and forced to give up the rock. A great guard causes so many match up problems with shooters spotted up in the corners and a cutting forward or big man. He can get them the ball in the right spot to fire.
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I didn't want to use the Fizer comparison but I remember him in college also. I also remember Danny Manning, Christian Laettner, Danny Ferry, Shelden Williams, Ken Norman, Jamal Mashburn, Walter Berry, Chris Washburn, Lou Roe, Marcus Camby, Glen Davis, Glen Robinson, Ralph Sampson, Scott May and a host of other big men with NBA-ready bodies and scoring skills that were not as good as advertised when faced with a variety of guys just as skilled. I'm watching Dirk Nowitski currently. Sure, he's a great player but not a game changer. Case in point,Dwayne Wade vs Dirk Nowitski a few years ago. Dirk was MVP of the league, Dwayne was the best player in that series. It wasn't because of overwhelming talent but because he controlled the rock which freed his team up to make plays.

Rose has got to be our guy, he can do what Paul has done for the Hornets (in the tougher conference), but we have a better supporting cast to put around Rose than they put around Paul. The two best scenario's are bringing in either Brand or Melo. We now have some expendable players so Pax should (if wants to keep his job)make an aggressive move like the Celtics did last year (they were horrible last year and this year probably in the Finals)and pull the trigger. I like the Melo Camby deal that gives you:
Starters Bench In Out
Rose Duhon Melo Deng
Gordon Hughes Camby Thomas
Melo Sefolosha Hinrich
Gooden Nocioni
Camby Noah

We are a Bulls town and we deserve a winning team, Pax if you cant pull this off you'll be run outta Chicago 4 ever!!!

I'll see your marcus fizer and raise you a Jamal Crawford and a lemarcus aldridge.

I'd be suprised if the bulls don't take rose, but beasley is the better pick for them. If you don't have a front court scoring threat hard to win even with best guard in the league, ask Kobe and Lebron.

Oh, speaking of Lebron, how much longer will he stick with his hometown team before he leaves to win someplace else? (ever notice he can't palm the ball and dunk with one hand? makes it hard to play above the rim like Jordan could).

Both choices are young and so neither are really sure thing. Putting high expectations for a team turnaround on a young point guard is asking for disappointment. It is just about impossible to carry a team from the point, you can have great games and put up great stats but winning is another story.

Beasley will average double doubles for years to come. But guess the bulls don't need a player like that since they have Gooden?? Not sure he gives a team much defensively or on the boards, but he does score once in awhile when not injured. Plus has that great kansas team chemistry with Captain Kirk.

Rose between the circles, crosses over,OMG Rondo looks like he broke an ankle! the lob to the rim....Thomas just posterized Pierce again!....Rose down the lane, the dish off to Gooden, the pump fake, Garnett leaves his feet, Gooden goes base line for the jam!.....Rose around the screen down the right side kicks out to a wide open Gordon in the corner for 3!!....Rose down the lane fakes the pass off to Noah lays it in and one!.....Noah with the rebound kicks it out to Rose at the elbow, he pump fakes and rifles a pass back to Noah underneath for the jam!

Nuff said??????

the bull should get rose and trade kirk rose will make the team better not like kirk he takes stupid shots.....BEASLEY is 2 small 4 a PF with all the great PR in da game

You guys are hilarious. You think the Miami Heat want your crappy players in exchange for the #2 pick? Thanks for the laugh! Go ahead and add yet another guard to your system. It's not like teams figured out that all the Bulls do is shoot jumpers. You have the chance to add a unique player like Beasely that can actually score down low and rebound. You get rid of Brand for no reason, trade away Aldridge, choose Wallace over Chandler and draft Noah who is the second coming of Varejao. None of your bigs have any special offensive skills. On the flip side you have 5 players on your roster that are 6-3 or 6-4 like Rose. Now you're going to add another one and make that 6. You think any team wants Hughes or Kirk with their contracts? Dream on. And if you can't trade them then what are you going to do? At least Tyrus and Noah have at least a little trade value. Hey, either Beasley and Rose will be a fine choice but I'm shocked at how many of you are behind Rose. The Heat will be very happy with Beasley. We look forward to playing in Chicago and Beasely scoring 40 on your team with a chip on his shoulder for passing on him. Thanks!!!

Surya...your welcome?

What Derrick Rose Utube highlights...they will make your jaw literally drop. He is a freak of an athlete with a ton of handles

What do the Bulls have? Plenty of serviceable/good players.
What do the Bulls lack? All-star players.

Rose is more likely to be an all-star than Beasley.

What do you do when you are flush with serviceable/good players? You try to upgrade. Beasley is likely to be a sizeable upgrade over Thomas.

Paxson should be thinking about getting both Rose & Beasley this draft. Miami's biggest problem is that when Wade is off they can't score enough. Gordon will help them more than Beasley.

The Bulls must trade him down. They can't handle a number 1 pick. They'll probably bench him for the whole season if he forgets to tie his shoe.

Please, enough with the dream scenarios with Miami giving up the second pick in the draft for Ben Gordon or your leftover scraps. You already got the first pick, don't be greedy. So now we're giving up Beasley for Gordon, as if we don't have a shooting guard or anything. Juan, I think we'll be fine with Beasley instead of your undersized 6th man, thanks.

I have watched Rose highlights, he looks great at penetrating and finishing at the rim (like Wade). I haven't seen any footage of him actually passing the ball or throwing lobs or doing anything point-guard related so I'm not sure if he's being a bit overhyped as a point guard. Chicago and Miami can do no wrong with either player, bottom line. I just think everyone is forgetting how much an interior scoring player could help the rest of your jump shooting team. Look how great Gasol has made the Lakers look since he arrived and how great Bynum was playing before the injury. It's not like they have an elite PG either. Beasley could really spread the floor and he can get you offensive rebounds, something that would help considering all the bricks the Bulls threw up last year. He gives you toughness down there on defense too, something Thomas and Noah don't really bring.

Surya sez: " Beasely that can actually score down low and rebound. You get rid of Brand for no reason, trade away Aldridge, choose Wallace over Chandler and draft Noah who is the second coming of Varejao. None of your bigs have any special offensive skills."

This is indeen a pregnant thought.

Is there a single "Big" on the Bulls roster that even remotely approaches tha talent of players in their prime like Hakeem, Ewing, Duncan, Shaq, AND Brand ... or any of a dozen other big men that could take control of a game all by themselves?

If the Bulls have a guy like this on their roster, I'd be interested in knowing his name.

I believe the last one they thought fit that mold was Ben Wallace.

At least they got the "Mold" part right.

Case closed.

the bulls should get this rose kid and do some wheelin and dealin to gets another pick and pick up roy hibbert out a georgetown. come on man hibbert, noah, thomas, dang and rose
championchip baby

earnest..you forgot...MARK RANDALL!!

Othello Beasley?

watch and judge for yourself..

ROSE HIGHLIGHTS
(keep in mind that the majority of these are HS highlights too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtZd2koUMrk&feature=related

BEASLEY HIGHLIGHTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghPmx_5fc&feature=related

here are even more beasley..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYfDCxUX9I&feature=related

surya, doesn't miami want rose? Is that why you're talking up beasley for the bulls? Miami has a scorer in wade, they just need a point to take the ball handling pressure off wade and free him up to carry the team offensively. They don't expect or need rose to be a scorer right away. This might be a really good situation for rose to play in, especially compared to what will be heaped on him with the bulls. Who would you rather get to play with Wade or Deng?

Plus the bulls would probably pull a repeat of their past pattern, and bring in a Lakers asst. to be coach and implement the triangle offense again. They may as well bring back bill Cartwright. Since Rose is from town, doubt he'd get all the flack Jwilliams got trying to run the triangle as a rookie. But the supporting casts would be eerily similar, good luck running the triangle with Noah and Thomas. If I was Rose I'd be hoping the bulls take Beasley, so miami can draft rose.

Too bad the bulls don't have a coach, makes it kind of impossible to foresee how a player would fit into the team system, and who to draft. Before bulls won lottery paxson was content to take his time hiring coach, but with the number one pick, guess what you don't have time to screw around if you want to make the best pick and have the best chance for success. If you don't have a coach in place or at least in mind, might be better off to trade pick and try and get some solid veteran player, maybe Melo, maybe brand. The new coach already has hughes waiting for him, not to mention thomas and gordon. The coach may want to have some input on the pick.

Ok in the first place who is talking about running the triangle again in Chicago? That was one of the dumbest posts I've read yet.

Another interesting comparison of Rose and Beasley;

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AoMAXqcq1O0StBcHcTJ83fm8vLYF?slug=ys-accuscorerosebeasley052208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I'm been back and forth about this...I think that Beasley will open up the Bulls offense and make it easier to spread opponents' defenses. If we pick Rose, then Tyrus Thomas will have to have a great season. It's tough to ask a rookie to turn another prospect into a great player.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/24707-NBA-Draft-Dilemma-Michael-Beasley-Derrick-Rose-and-Impaling-Myself

I actually prefer Beasley for the Heat. Rose and Wade both need the ball to be effective so I would be afraid it would be a little redundant to have both in your backcourt, although it would certainly be an exciting team to watch! I just don't think the Heat (or Bulls) would be as successful in the playoffs against the Celtics or Pistons (the only 2 elite East teams) as they would if they had Beasley down low to give you an inside-outside presence. We also need the size with Shaq gone. The Heat could then hopefully trade Udonis Haslem for a decent PG or sign one in free agency. I understand everyone is really high on point guards and that Rose is obviously an upgrade over Kirk but all it is an upgrade. You add Beasley who is nothing like anyone on the Bulls roster and you force other teams to have to totally adjust to a new Bulls offense. Both Rose and Beasley fill needs for both teams, I just think Beasley's presence on the court is more profound and unique - especially for the Heat who, with Wade, already have a gifted guard who slashes and scores at the rim.

A good quarterback on the court can easily turn a team around 180 degrees, and Derrick Rose has all the attributes to accomplish this. I just hope Paxson isn't sucked into a trade that could easily be a mirage. Take Rose and let this team grow! I cringed when you mentioned Larry Hughes being good as gone. I, deep down inside, really like this guy when he "comes to play?", and I'm hoping the possible addition of Derrick wakes this 'waste of tall talent' up from his here today gone tomorrow attitude. As much as I like Drew Gooden and Joakim, we're just one, strong base, 7 foot presence away from being a very good team if Rose jumps on board. I personally think Michael Beasley is the better of the two at this stage, but Beasley is a round block coming to a square hole with the Bulls, and if the piece doesn't fit, why even try to force it in? Can't recall his name at this moment. but the big European center for the Cavs would be the perfect mold to compliment the, HOPEFULLY, new look Bulls. Just my thoughts. Hey, they took Ben, didn't they?

Culz:

You're right, I forgot Mark Randall. I also forgot Pervis Ellison, Will Perdue, Joe Smith, Clarence Witherspoon, Kenyon Martin, Derrick Coleman, Chris Wilcox and the list goes on. One question see you all are so enamored with college scorers. Do any of you know that JJ Reddick is the all time leading scorer in college? Here's another gem for you all. Brad Sellers led the Big Ten in rebounding. JR Reid was a stud at North Carolina but how about that NBA career. Oh, I almost forgot grandmama Larry Johnson. Whose going to argue that he was a can't miss coming out of UNLV and every bit as good as Beasley. How about that HOF career. Go for the guard Pax.

Surya, shouldn't you be talking up in a Miami blog board instead of trying to instigate rants in our Bulls talk? We all know that Pat Riley would prefer rebuilding around a lethal backcourt of Wade and Rose rather than taking a chance on basically an undersized power forward in Beasley. And last I saw, your Miami Heat had the worst record in the NBA last season! You guys have your own hands full with a new and unproven head coach as well. You make me laugh trying to pawn off Beasley on us saying he'll be all this and all that when I already know that Miami will be trying to trade that 2nd pick away or do what they can to draft Derrick Rose. Either way, no problem if Beasley drops 30 or whatever against the Bulls next season, I'll take the win contributed by Rose's athleticism and TEAM play ability anytime. Have fun keeping Marion happy, rehabbing Wade and continuing the development of the great Chris Quinn at the point! haha

Fizzy, there's no doubt in my mind that Paxson knows that trades are inevitable and that he must hire that coach before the NBA draft. Yes, he's made some bonehead decisions over the past 2 years, but he's obviously not the final decisionmaker on personnel issues. If he was, D'Antoni would have been hired by the Bulls by now, not the Knicks, no doubt in my mind. And no way the Triangle offense will be coming back to the Bulls anytime soon. That system is designed for superstar scorers and veteran intelligent NBA players. The Bulls don't have either...yet. Paxson is basically Mitch Kupchak of the Lakers, with the only difference is that Jerry Buss finally opened up his pocketbooks to keep Kobe happy. Unfortunately for Pax, he doesn't have that luxury with the stubborn Reinsdorf and with the Bulls winning the draft lottery, they'll continue that path of building a team cheap through the draft and assistant coaches-turned head coach. So yeah, I'm happy for the Bulls on drafting #1, but the Reinsdorf philosophy of drafting hopeful superstars and signing veteran role players will likely continue until one of our draft picks actually blossom into a superstar. I swear, if the Bulls raise ticket prices again this year after that disaster season, I'm going to puke.

No trades for Melo or Brand for the #1 pick. Melo's mentality makes it difficult on a young Bulls team to choose him (he's a better fit in Detroit) and Brand is getting some age and wear n tear on him.

No way do I want Rose. Pick Beasley because he is a beast. Rose has no jumpshot. The scouts said that in High School that he needed to improve his jumpshot.

You people are plain goofy in comparing Rose to CP3 and D. Williams. Like Mr Hand said in Fast Times at Ridgemont High what are you people high on dope.

Beasley is unstoppable. He is better then Durrant and Oden who came out last year. Also I would rather have OJ Mayo over Rose.

Beasley reminds mew of Elvin Hayes.

i think i was drunk last night cuz I think i shoudl have said beasley. cuz dang and hinricks ok. this beasley kid would adds some power to the front court. if you trade the 1#

Bulls better not take an UNPROVEN big man. And even if you do get a big man, they take time to develope in the league. A GUARD is the quick way to improve. Big man....5 years. Guard, 2-3. Besides, there is no substitute for drafting a ballhandler and playmaker. Paxson needs to remember all of those turnovers, and all the times bulls guards couldnt finish at the basket. But if that is not enough remember Gooden and Noah having to put the ball on the floor and create their own shots. Tyrus Thomas is the same as Beasly. All the hype. But alongside Kirk....career over. Including Tyson Chandler.

Gee tim thanks for the compliment.

I actually heard that there are two lakers asst coaches the bulls would consider. Don't know how far that will go but you do remember the bulls trying to run the triangle when cartwright was coach don't you? They had a rookie point guard, crawford, rose, curry and chandler, it wasn't very successful, which was my point.

I hope for Rose's sake he isn't saddled with that system with Noah, Thomas, Hughes, Gordon, Hinrich, Thabo, etc. Just because it wouldn't work well doesn't mean the bulls wouldn't try it, now does it?

I fully expect the bulls to draft Rose, and then after they find a coach, they'll need a scoring guard and frontline player who can score and rebound. It'll be an upgrade at point guard but the team will still have the same needs. Seems like with the number one pick you could improve more than that. Point guards usually don't turn out to be impact players that can carry a team, if they are dominant scorers, they become 2 guards.

Maybe no body realizes that the bulls labored in running the offense at pressure times and that solid point guard play neutralizes that from being a problem. A solid point guard commands the ball and gets his team where they need to be to be effective. If you dont have someone that can setup your bigs they get shut down. Bigs come and go name 12 solid point guards in the league and once you do the math you'll notice that half of those teams with a premier point guard was in the playoff. Now name power forwards that can play the list goes on and on damn near throughout ever team. Point is when you have a chance to solidify a position thats one of the most important positions on your team you don't fool around you snatch it and run with it. Bulls fan for life.

When I look back at the players the Bulls had and could have kept, I have little faith in their decision making process.

JR will trade a dollar for a nickle if he thinks it will save him a dime somewhere down the road.

No matter who the Bulls draft, you can bet on this much; they'll get rid of the wrong players after doing so, and keep the ones who will help their number one pick the least.

"Tyrus Thomas is the same as Beasly."

Uhhhh...no. Did Thomas EVER make a shot outside 8 feet in college? NO

Dumb comparison...

Posted by: JT | May 27, 2008 06:49 AM

But Thomas can make that shot NOW. And that is ALL that matters. And we wont talk about who can get up the highest. I think Thomas is the superior athlete of the two. And i kind of like the fact that we will have a point guard to make sure that THOMAS will not have to take those 8 and 10 feet shots like Deng has to. Shooting big men don't impress me. DUNKING big men do. Leave the outside shooting to the guards and get your big behind on the block!!!!