Indiana knew it was getting a coach with some baggage when it hired Kelvin Sampson, so today's news shouldn't come as a big surprise.
Still, there has to be a big portion of IU boosters that cringed today and longed for the days of the now-available Bob Knight.
One of the calls allegedly was made to Demetri McCamey, who starred at St. Joe and is now at Illinois.
How closely do you think Illini fans will be watching this?
GOOD!!!!! That's what you call cheater's justice! I hope IU enjoys this season with the freshman liar in their backcourt, because he's gone next year. And the cheater will be fired!!! And IU will be on probation for the next few years. So enjoy, Hoosier fans. The Illini Nation will take great delight when the NCAA takes out their big eraser and wipes out your entire 2007-08 season!!!! I hope it was worth it!!!!
GO ILLINI!!! Where truth and honesty mean something!
I dont condone what Sampson has done and I hope they eventually fire him. But to say that the Illini have been truthful and honest is a far cry from the truth. What about Jimmy Collins?? What about Lou Henson?? Oh how we forget those days!!!
That being said, i do believe that Weber is the real deal as a coahc and human being and I would like for him to do well even though i was an IU fan. I would have no problems with Weber as a coach even at IU. He is honest and a good coach.
I LOVE IT! The guy is a crook and has been busted AGAIN! He obviously has zero ethics as evidenced from the Eric Gordon drama, but now he has proved he is a liar and an outright cheat. It will be a great day when he gets fired. Hopefully, it is sooner rather than later. We don't need his type of trash in the Big 10. Now if someone could just teach Weber "Recruiting Basics 101", I will be a 100% happy Illini fan!
I have to admit I was glad when I heard the news this morning. When you use shady tactics to recruit players, it's gonna come back to bite you! Haha Hoosiers!
Perfect time for a fire and hire...Thank God
Da^^ straight Bob Knight is available
Myles Brand is a homo
and really..who cares what the Illini say ...and that's all they do is 'watch' others experience victory ...have they ever won anything?
you'd think it would build character...lol
Obviously this shows a pattern of behavior where the coach has zero respect for the rules and blatantly lies about his actions. I hope the NCAA comes down hard on Sampson. A one year suspension for him would not only be appropriate because he not only broke the rules, but did so while under restrictions because of previous violations. In this case I don't blame the school, I blame Sampson himself and he needs to be held accountable.
Dont call us we'll call you!
IU gets what they deserve...08 off the books, no post season next year and reduction in scholarships.
YEAH!
This made my day. But Sampson is lucky that the Clemens/McNamee hearing was on all day or this would have gotten way more media.
As an Illini fan, I am thrilled, but I still don't think that some of our students should have behaved the way they did last Thursday. Heckling and booing was great, but swearing and throwing stuff was no good.
Eric Gordon Sr.'s comments solidify my thoughts that he has similar ethics to Coach Sampson. He went through two recruiting processes with Coach Weber and Coach Sampson, and for him to say that all coaches behave like IU is an insult to decent, honest coaches like Coach Weber. Weber may not be the best recruiter, but he is honest about it, and for Mr. Gordon to say that everyone acts like IU is an shameful to Illinois and every other honest coach in America.
I can't believe they didn't fire him today. He belongs no where near that school, but the fact that they haven't fired him yet shows the disgusting greed that school has to win. When wins are more important than ethics, there is a serious problem and the president of the university should step in and fire the AD and the Coach.
Overall, this does make Illini Nation thrilled. In fact it is the brightest spot in the dismal season we had, as pathetic as that sounds, its the truth. Whether Gordon was involved in this or not is a non-issue. We knew Sampson was unethical when Gordon changed his mind, now this just solidifies our thoughts.
I want to hear what Mariotti has to say about this one!
IU and its fan base have always been so disgustingly sanctimonious about their basketball program that it's nauseating. True, they won three titles, but they were coached by a mean-spirited sociopath in Knight who embarrassed all of college basketball with his bullying nonsense. He graduated players, but who knows how much he intimidated the faculty to facilitate these graduations. His whole era was pathetic.
Now you get this putz Sampson, who's dirtier than the Cal-Sag,and many weepy Hoosier dopes are vowing to circle the wagons and support him. IU fans should have been ashamed of Knight and better want this clown gone or they're even dumber than I thought.
Call BOBBY!! We want BOBBY BACK!
The Loosiers get what they deserve!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I am an Illinois fan and Bruce Webber supporter but I take no satisfaction in Coach Sampsons actions. If he is guilty so be it and give the I.U. sanctions. I would fooolishly like to believe that college sports are above this sort of thing but realize this happens. Saying that spare no mercy!! At some point in time people need to be accountable and realize what the job and the obligation is about and who is the benefactor.
Roman responds: I'm taking Panther22's post out because the end of it contained a silly shot at Bruce Weber. If you want to re-send it without that I'll post it again. By the way, Sampson is Native American. Thanks.
Hey Panther I have news for you Sampson is not black. He is native american. Kinda makes the rest of your rant seem silly.
Please give examples of how Bruce Weber is a Racist? That is a heck of an accusation to throw around. Also, Did you read the report against Sampson? He had every opportunity to succeed but he continuously broke the rules.
I have no sympathy for Indiana and people don't like Weber because he is not a smooth talker but i cannot think of another coach in college basketball that I could trust to take care of kids and be honest with them.
Panther 22
One flaw in your moronic argument, IU and Sampson turned themselves in to the NCAA. I will not address your other points as they are meritless. Roman you insult us all by letting Panther 22 post.
I am an Illinois fan and a Big Ten fan. This is a sad day for the Big Ten and for IU fans (and baseball but thats a whole other story). The IU AD should be showing Sampson the door. And if he doesn't, Indiana University should show the AD the door. It is disgraceful what they are willing to do to win games.
Also, Bruce Weber is not a racist. And Kelvin Sampson is not black.
I think "what it isn't" is on to something.
Weber I'm sure mainlines HGH, bankrolls a duck fighting ring, appears frequently on Dateline NBC showing up at townhome doors and secretly supports UFO conspiracy groups.
To bad he didn't figure out that all he had to be was a Liar and a Cheat to satisfy the standards of some people. Yick
Panther 22,I think you have something there about Sampson being discriminated against.I think it has something to do with the other coaches not being able to accept the fact that he is one of the better liars that ever coached the sport.
It is tough for people who don't lie to learn to appreciate just how difficult it is to lie with a straight face.
He also loves to quote the great black civil rights leader,Geronimo when he says," Geronimo would have been a great coach," says Sampson. "He was the ultimate motivator".
Dingbat,if you are going to play the race card at least have a clue.Kelvin is an American Indian.
I am an Illini fan. This is not a great day for an Illini fan. I do not like seeing the decline of Indiana basketball. Illini fans are in favor of a strong Big Ten. In the glory years, the Illini had Gill and Anderson, Indiana had Cheany and Woodson, Iowa had Armstrong and Marble, Michigan Rice and Vaught,etc, etc. Those were the Golden years!!! Hope Indiana fires Sampson and hires a coach who will build a long term strong program (see what Purdue is doing!).
Nice sour grapes there panther. Seems to me I recall another poster named panther...who was also named indyoldschool. If you are the same poster, then you should know that nobody believes your lies anymore. You have no morals and no sense of ethics. I feel sorry for your kids....
First the Colts lay a turd at midfield. Then IU finds out what happens when you cut a deal with the devil. What's next for the state of Indiana? Sampson, start your engine and get out of here.
Your just as guilty as the adminisration who hired you.
Still doesn't make that despicable display last week acceptable. Like U of I athletics doesn't have a history of cheating. Mike White, Lou Henson, Jimmy Collins...Hmm, I wonder who will be next to carry on this great tradition.
The fanbase that treated Luke Recker and Sean May in a similar fashion is talking about how Eric Gordon was treated? What a laugh riot.
Considering Panther22 is Eric Gordon Sr, this whole thread is about as funny as you can get.
Panther 33...In no way do I want you to think that my calling you a dingbat was a negative.It was actually meant to honor you.My grandfather, Chief Cratchelow,an original member of the Illiniwek tribe,was the first dingbat of the tribe.
The dingbat was the brave who was honored enough to have chips of ice and beads thrown at his head.He would attempt to "bat" them away before they could "ding" him.He would then turn and make fake death threats,all the while knowing that this was no more than a wish that the particpants in the next deer hunt would not "do well".It gets lost in translation,but what the heck.
Hey panther!
Everything is fine. Goodnight!
I am a media whore. I knew bringing the family into Assembly Hall West was a bad idea. What can I say? I would feed my little ones to the lions if it bettered my image. We led Illinois on and those suckers bought our BS. Indiana forever!
Panther22=IndyOldSchool from the message boards which = ERIC GORDON SR.
Roman responds: It's not Eric Gordon, Sr., but his shot was out of line. I think Bruce Weber is one of the true nice guys and class acts in the business.
Actually, this is old news. Everyone should have known this was coming before the season really got underway. One wonders why the NCAA took so long to make their report. Now there is even more delay while the Indiana administration decides what to respond.It's almost as bad as Washington bureaucracy. I'm not as sure Kelvin S. is gone as most of the reporters are. K.S. already forfeited half a million voluntarily, and the assistant who made all the phone calls resigned a long time ago. Even a much earlier __Sun Times__ article stated months ago that what K.S. did was just plain "stupid." I would predict that the NCAA tournament will be over and long forgotten before a final decision is made regarding Sampson.I'd be for Tubby as a replacement, but Minnesota already snatched him up, and Bo Ryan is not likely to leave Wisconsin.
Michael posted (near the top of this thread) the following about Coach Weber:
"Now if someone could just teach Weber "Recruiting Basics 101", I will be a 100% happy Illini fan!"
Michael, have you been out of the country and away from the internet for the last few months? You must be the ONLY Illini fan who hasn't been slobbering over the recruits that have verballed to Illinois with the recruiting of Coach Weber.
Crandall Head, Jereme Richmond, Anthony Johnson, Brandon Paul, D.J. Richardson, Joe Bertrand, Stan Simpson.
Not only are some of these kids the very best from the state of Illinois (which is one of the most fertile grounds for great high school basketball players) but a few of them will be some of the best in the nation.
Weber has not only passed Recruiting Basics 101 with flying colors; he's very close to getting his PhD in recruiting.
IlliniJim, are you breaking us some news? When did Anthony Johnson commit? Do we even have an open scholarship left that year?
Anthony Johnson is in the 2010 class. The Illini can still sign recruit there as they only have commitments from Crandall Head and Jerome Richmond
MW asked in his post:
IlliniJim, are you breaking us some news? When did Anthony Johnson commit? Do we even have an open scholarship left that year?
I'm very sorry about my error. I did the old copy & paste trick to list the recruits and I got this one from one of my lists where I had saved info on several players heights. AJ was on that list.
It should have been Tyler Griffey. I apologize for my inaccuracy.
Please stop with the whole Bruce Weber is a class act. Weber is classless and him and Sampson need to be removed from the Big Ten immediately. The Big Ten is bringing in great coaches with Tubby and Belien. Also, stop with the Bruce Weber is an unreal recruiter. All those recruits you have listed are guards, minus Simpson. In the Big Ten, you can't win without big men. That's why Wisconsin is at the top every year. I was born and raised in Illinois and have always rooted for the Illini, but went to IU from 2002-2006, so they become my first love since. Weber is a bum and Sampson is a cheater, lets get rid of both of them and start over. Maybe Dee Brown can coach??
Roman,
Have you traced the email address? Panther22 = EG SR.
Roman,
To add to my last post, "panther" = north central hs, "23" = eric gordon jr's, "32" = evan gordon, eg sr. = combination of 2 = "22"
The sn has been confirmed in the past through eg sr. himself and the tone of his writing is the same.
9:04 Sunday morning...
Wanted to direct attention to a now empty Assembly Hall...where yesterday...IU displayed what the word Hoosier meant..and class
Hey Julie...what happened to The JimMillers yesterday?
It's ok, tho...that's nothing compared to the JoeBarryCarol game...not even close....Tuesday will be fun
Dan Dakich....cool...honestly didn't know he was still there...Andrean HS, tho...watched him play many times...and UHF.. Channel 50 out of St Johns to watch him at State...lol, bummer game if ya saw it..always harder for the region downstate, right;)~..ok then..he's a Hoosier, too....Dan's dad was or is cool as sh....
Region Rat takes over at IU...I can dig it
Paul sez: " I would predict that the NCAA tournament will be over and long forgotten before a final decision is made regarding Sampson."
My money's on next week.
I love it! I remember a short time ago all of the smug postings from the IU faithful back when Gordon committed, where are they now? However, you got what you asked for; a pudgy and out-of-shape player who is out after one year and a cheater/liar of a coach who isn't that good. I saw Jim Calhoun (UCONN) outcoach him and Ryan (Wisconsin) outcoach him twice! The best part of this is the fact that he (Sampson) is a cheater/liar who isn't going to win anything.
GO IU!!! I love it!!!
Joe asked what the Illini have ever won. In the last ten years they have won or tied for FIVE Big Ten championships and won the Big Ten tournament twice. Over that same time period Indiana has one Big Ten championship (a four way tie 2002) and ZERO Big Ten tournament championships.
Roman you did a real bad job of screening on this thread. Panther 22 is moron, you are equally as bad for letting this happen.
I feel bad for you Illini fans (and your university in general).... no matter how hard you try, you guys will never be as good as the Hoosiers, even if we won't have Sampson or Gordon in the years to come. Obviously Gordon wanted to play for IU in the first place that's why he's with us and not your crappy team. The Hoosiers are better than ur immature Illini team and always will be... deal with it. Next time we play you, try to stay classy....
Holly
Sounds like you are a disgruntled north shore girl who didnt get into u of i so you went with plan b and c...either iowa or indiana.
Dakich is a stud