Other tidbits from the Chefs Collaborative national meeting, which ended today:

Paul Kahan and Twitter don't mix. "For me personally, I hate it. It's a waste of time," he said.

Kahan on chubs: "If you've never had a warm, smoked chub, it's probably the greatest thing you'll ever eat."

Neither Rick Bayless nor his spokeswoman, Jen Fite, have any tips for folks trying to figure out the best time of day to hit Xoco. "All I know is, it's always busy," Bayless nearly (but not quite) lamented. "We have no tips! We don't know!," Fite says.