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That was embarrassing

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Whenever Aramis Ramirez starts strutting around like one of his fighting roosters, I know he's in for a bad day.

During the regular season, the guy can be as clutch as any player on the Cubs. In the playoffs, not only does he stink, but he stinks with an attitude.

The way he played Billingsley's grounder was so typical of Bad Aramis. Nonchalant. Cocky. But he's just part of it.

Why is Fukudome playing? Why can't Alfonso Soriano live up to his paycheck? Where is Derrek Lee?

That was pathetic last night. I was there. And while I thought the crowd was dead Wednesday while I watched the game on TV, it was pumped - at least in the beginning last night.

Oh well, this thing isn't going to come back Chicago if the Cubs can't find a pulse. Not an attitude, but a pulse.

At least Zambrano did his part. Wonder now what would have happened if he started Game 1, although I favored Dempster.

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The last 2 nights games at Wrigley Field made me think of a bad little league team. This is obviously not the same team that won the National League Central Division. They played worse last night than is imaginable. I am a huge Ryan Theriot fan being that I am from his home town, watched every game of the College World Series when LSU won with him on the team, I have never seen him play like he did last night. As for the rest of the team, except Big Z, you are out there to play baseball not soccer, so quit kicking the ball. Last night it looked like you guys had been paid to throw the game. Do the Cubs make more money losing than they do winning? There are no such things as curses so get over it!! Looks like someone in upper management is making money off of the curse. Come on Guys go out there and play ball like the Chicago Cubs we know and love and have made the fans believe in all season long. We need to win the next three games badly.

Me thinks that Zambrano and the rest of the Cubs roster are splitsville. I mean three errors in one inning and Soto can't seem to get the ball back to Zambrano.

Like Boston did with Manny, maybe it's time to part ways with Zambrano.

Also, Lou needs to start managing to win games. Starting Fukududo in not one but TWO games is insane.

When was the last time Lou-do actually won a playoff series?

The Dodgers have been everything the Cubs haven't -- patient at the plate, good in the field, solid on the mound and clutch with runners in scoring position.

Cubs appear to be paying a lot of money to players who show up between April and September. Too bad it's October.

Get out the brooms. This party is OVER!

Great article, Roman; keep up the fantastic job! Better words have never been uttered.

Anyway, what is there really to say? They're the Cubs. Their 0-2 NLDS deficit never surprised me for a nanosecond. They savor the media spotlight more than they do their respective performances. Why can't Soriano live up to his eight-year, $136 million paycheck, indeed?

Also, they need to grow up and start accepting responsibility for their own faults, rather than tirelessly utilize media anomalies (i.e., billy goat curses, black cats, Leon Durham, Steve Bartman, et cetera) to justify them. Good fielding, hitting, pitching, and managing always prevail. Heck, Lou Piniella was never a great manager to begin with. He won a World Series championship on his own, in 1990, with an already assembled Cincinnati Reds club courtesy of then-prison-bound Pete Rose.

We Sox fans do not believe in curses and whatnot, like our (traditionally) North Side counterparts do. We play good baseball and bad baseball--and I'm a staunch fan of both. Nuff said.

It is over. Move the team to another city, raze Wrigley, and start over with another team like the Mets. The Cubs and their fans are incapable of winning. I wish they didn't exist(see above)so my family, friends and I did not have to be constantly bewildered by their ineptitude. It is time to move on.

I am one fan of thousands from Florida, that purchased nine tickets to all three Rays games to see our cubbies get swept. I thought that was bad! The last two playoff games were more painfull than that, how do you expect the infield to catch a ball with both hands around their necks. This was the biggest choke job if there ever was one. I partly blame Lou, it is his job to get them ready and to calm them down. This is not the "Little Leagues" gentleman but it sure looked like it.

Too many years of heartache. Unlike my Uncle and Father-in-law, I did not live through 1969 - but I have now lived with them through 2003, 07, and 08. There comes a point when one really has to consider (or reconsider) just how much emotional energy they will place with the sports team of their choice. For me, the collapse of the 2008 Chicago Cubs is monumental in the sense that I believe I will no longer - and I mean NEVER AGAIN - get excited about a great home record, or best in the NL, or a no-hitter, or a Japaneese import with a dead bat.

I suppose I'll always be a Cubs fan, but now i understand why, when I would talk to my Uncle and Father-in-law during this season about how great the Cubs were - I was met with pessimistic, defeatest attitudes. After seasons like this one - how can you not lose some of the love and loyalty?

Well, well, well.. I'm from Indiana and grew a Cubs fan.. So I've been waiting a long time to actually see them make it to the World Series.. But the last two games made me think that I'm going to wait about 30 more years to see this happen. Can we say CHOKE! Obviously the team can't handle any pressure if ground balls are making them trip and fall.. Nervous? Yes they are very nervous right now!! As we all can see, the fans are getting very impatient with this team.. With the salaries you are making off us, you need to do something soon.. I flew all the way from San diego, Ca. to watch them play at home.. I'm very upset at the way you guys are looking.. Is this the team that I bragged about all season? Tell me this Cubbies!! Who took your heart? Have a nice winter break with all that money..

Well, well, well.. I'm from Indiana and grew up a Cubs fan.. So I've been waiting a long time to actually see them make it to the World Series.. But the last two games made me think that I'm going to wait about 30 more years to see this happen. Can we say CHOKE! Obviously the team can't handle any pressure if ground balls are making them trip and fall.. Nervous? Yes they are very nervous right now!! As we all can see, the fans are getting very impatient with this team.. With the salaries you are making off us, you need to do something soon.. I flew all the way from San diego, Ca. to watch them play at home.. I'm very upset at the way you guys are looking.. Is this the team that I bragged about all season? Tell me this Cubbies!! Who took your heart? Have a nice winter break with all that money..

The word embarrassing doesn't even come close in describing the overall play of the Cubs these last two games. Dempster had a bad night and Zambrano literally carried the team on his shoulders but where the hell was the rest of the team?! Manny being Manny didn’t beat us. The Cubs lack of an overall spine did! The Mets are ridiculed for their late season "meltdowns" but The Cubs are the brink of overtaking them and becoming the “King of late season meltdowns". Yes, they looked that bad and anyone who would dare dispute me is completely out of touch with Cubs reality and content with getting full on bread rather than having the main course at dinner. If the Cubs get swept, which they are making very easy at this point, it's a sad testament that the Cubs are merely a friendly, fun Chicago attraction as apposed to a real baseball team who is put together to win it all. Owners of any business or product do what they do to make money; that's life. Wouldn't it be refreshing however for the city of Chicago to get back a fraction of what it has given to the Cubs?

Its Dusty's fault...

3 complaints.

1. Fukudome in TWO games? Piniella said the people that produce will play yet somehow Fukudome started both games. I actualy feel bad for Fukudome, I am sure he is trying. But Lou started him and then ripped him after the second game. Lou should be ashamed of himself for that.

2. I hate 5 game series. Why does the game that has the most luck involved out of all the sports have a series that is only 5 games? The players need to step up but I think that's why everyone was so anxious the first game, they knew a first game loss would be huge. We do have the best team in the NL, the regular season proved that, but too much can happen in a short series. Does anyone truly believe the Dodgers are gonna win it all? I don't.

3. The reward for winning tonight will be I get to watch the game tomorrow at 9:30!!!!!!! They will win tonight just so I have to stay up tomorrow to watch them lose, I'll get no sleep, and go into work in a really bad mood. And this really sucks for any kids trying to watch. It's a kids game anyways. Shame on MLB.

All that said, we are 1 of 4 teams to be down 0-2 in the playoffs,
I like our chances and the White Sox chances best of coming back.

And most important, we have won back to back division titles for the first time in 100 years, we will be better next year. Plenty of good teams have been swept out of the playoffs early and come back. The Red Sox were swept by the White Sox in 05 after they had won and came back to win it all again last year again. Let's look at the big picture. I don't know that they have enough to beat any of the AL teams this year anyway.

i went to see Carrie Underwood thursday nite at the university of illinois . i had a great tme.Intead of the cubs at Wrigley field thursday ,that should have been canceled and brought in a real professional player. i saw a real star. the people at Wrigley got amateur hour.
Roman responds: Good post. Your decision likely was better for your mental health.

THIS IS DRAMA...LIFE IS WIN SOME, LOSE SOME. DO YOU MORONS THINK THE CUBS CAN NOT WIN THE NEXT THREE IN A ROW...SO US THEN LOYAL CUBS FANS CAN ROAR HEINOUS CHEAP BUTT CHEESE GAS IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTIONS!??

I'm going to address 3 areas in this blog and would truly enjoy hearing the comments and responses of those that read it.......First......The 2008 NLDS Series between the Chicago Cubs and the Los Angeles Dodgers.....Pure and simple this series was a complete meltdown and choke on the part of the Cubs. All those walks, all those errors and all those men left on base are proof of that. In fact, this may go down as one of the great chokes in a Cubs history that has been littered with chokes. Second......it's time to blow this thing up and start all over again.....the following players should go......Soriano, Ramirez, Lee, Fukodome, Howry, Cotts, Marshall, Edmonds, Theriot, and Zambrano. The Cubs have put millions of dollars in players that have not performed. Their bullpen is horrendous.....it has to be improved and the aforementioned multi-millionaire "fat cats" have proven time and again they only show up when there is nothing on the line........Third.......why is it that teams such as Tampa Bay, Arizona, Minnesota, Texas, Milwaukee, the L.A. Dodgers and Florida continue to draft, sign and develop quality young talent and the Cubs continually go outside the organization to sign players? The answer, of course, is that the Cubs Director of Player Development and General Manager are both very poor at evaluating players. 6 of the Cubs' 8 starters are from other organizations and Wood and Zambrano are the only adequate pitchers on the roster developed by the Cubs. Unfortunately, Zambrano has worn out his welcome and the jury is still out on Wood as a closer. There are many good young players throughout baseball that started in the Cubs organization but became parts of still another trade that Hendry got taken in. The most recent trade debacle was trading many young players for a pitcher that spends more time on the DL then in the rotation.........In closing it is truly a shame that the Cubs "reward" the greatest and most dedicated fans in all of sports with a team that plays with very little pride, no heart and a complete inability to execute even the simplest fundamentals of the game of baseball.

the negative energy and doubt in wrigley are so awful that the cubs should play all their playoff games abroad.

I can't imagine what it must be like to support a bunch of losers like the Cubs. The Cardinals have won a National League record 10 World Series championships, and with much smaller payrolls.

The Cubs have proven again that they suck and will continue to suck for eternity.

Ha Ha!

Cardinal Nation!!!!!

It's the cubs fan and players own fault, those of you who dont live in chicago dont know of all of the hype thats been going around here,i.e ITS GONNA HAPPEN, Tribune special magazine on magical season 2008, all the allstars on the cubs (Fukedome, are u kidding),the push for the world series before they even got to playoffs and so on. Win first then hype!

It's the cubs fan and players own fault, those of you who dont live in chicago dont know of all of the hype thats been going around here,i.e ITS GONNA HAPPEN, Tribune special magazine on magical season 2008, all the allstars on the cubs (Fukedome, are u kidding),the push for the world series before they even got to playoffs and so on. Win first then hype!

I just read that one or more players on the Cubs took a bat to some plumbing by the visitor's dugout after the last game and caused a flood...this certainly is the type of professional team we want representing the National League! One way to look at that is at least they were able to hit something, although the target was stationary and not moving...LIKE A PITCHED BALL! T-Ball anyone? The Cubs might have a chance at that game...NAH!

I would say that after being swept last year, and then playing an entire season with a team that was not only better statistically, but through qualitative observation--and then playing EVEN WORSE (if that's possible) is the epitome of failure.

Epitome of failure.

No excuse any player could make could possibly be even the slightest bit relevant. Nothing short of, "We are sorry" will I ever tolerate as a born and breed Cubs fan who used to come home from morning kindergarten and watch Cubs games with my stay at home father (The Riggleman days, oh I was born and raised on failure).

As far as I am concerned, Opening Day for the Chicago Cubs is October 1st, 2009. Not one day sooner.

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