Sullivan, curator of urban ecology for the Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum, makes his record third appearance on "Outside." This one was recorded after a morning of squirrel hunting with me.

So Sullivan adds some perspective to public access and hunting.

The show becomes heated in moments. Joel Greenberg is not a fan of hunting.

Baldwin took over the as the host with the most appearances on "Saturday Night Live" on Saturday, for those who follow that.

"Outside" airs from 4:30-5 p.m. Mondays on WKCC-FM (91.1) in Kankakee. Rebroadcasts of the show are at 12:30 p.m. on Sundays.

Laurel Soper, the web tech and digital media person for KCC, has put together the podcast system here.

Otherwise, click here for online listening options.

There is a Facebook page for Outside with Dale Bowman and Joel Greenberg.