Amar Ayyash discusses lifer birds, life and gulls, and why in the world somebody goes on a quest to see all the gulls of the America's today on "Outside" with Joel Greenberg and me.

Ayyash, a math teacher at Richards High School in Oak Lawn, has quite the journey to chasing gulls around the country. I find it fascinating.
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