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Asian carp: My take on the latest plan

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My take on the latest plan to halt the spread of the Asian carp to the Great Lakes--the six-mile kill zone on the Sanitary and Ship canal--is published at,CST-NWS-bowman01.article as part of the Sun-Times coverage of the plan.


One of the reasons I don't think the agencies involved have earned the right to use such a measure is this photo. It's Gregory Hamilton (he's behind his grandson, Martise Hardeman) with a bighead carp caught from Columbus Park lagoon on July 3. Asian carp are well proven to already be in Chicago.

Not to mention this project to stop the spread of Asian carp has been bungled since its beginning, primarily by the Army Corps of Engineers.

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Asian Carp Creole?

I guess the “Illinois River Asian Carp Cook-off “is on!

As long as our state is finally admitting that there are Asian carp in Illinois, let’s put our best culinary minds to work to tell people how they can cook up this FREE fish flesh, and where they can pick it up. And why not? Tough economic times call for creative measures. So, let’s put our cooking schools (Kendall College are you listening?) to work with some grants that get the best taste out of the carp family’s version of E.T. and let start eating them.

Let’s have a fishing derby while were at it...for both the Asian carp and the bass and catfish in that doomsday stretch of the Illinois River. Let’s do something. Let’s put our creative energies into thinking how we can make the best out of this mess.

Too little, too late...why do they wait until the problem is at epidemic levels to consider doing anything about it? AND, why do their methods have to be so drastic when they do?

Kenny Haas hit the solution right on the head. Putting the Asian Carp on the table may even allow the other fish species to recover to a sustainable number. Poisoning the water can give rise to unknown problems for months or even years.

As much as i like that idea of chefs working on Asian carp recipes, I don't see that making enough of a market to put a dent in the population.

Well, it looks like we'll have to all become snaggers after Lake Michigan is totally infested with those things. Imagine snagging a 45 lb carp, that would be quite a fight, eh? On another note, I wonder when the pleasure boaters are going to wake up and realize these carp are going to spoil their summer jaunts up and down the lake front......

They did say that they would electroshock and remove the sport fish before poisoning the water. I don't think they were doing it yesterday. Any sign of it today? I am guessing "no".

The number one sport fish on that stretch of water is the common carp. In the unlikely event that they do any electro shocking, they should be relocating the larger, trophy-sized carp.

They have stated that invertebrates are "less susceptible" to the rotenone. Does this mean that the canal will be devoid of clams, snails and crayfish once it is poisoned?

Latest thing I saw was that 'limited poisoning" will occur past the lock. This seems to be a change from the earlier statements that there would be no fish deaths past the lock.

I think I am seeing a pattern of lies and half truths.

Paul, precisely. That was the point of the column. This pattern didn't just start in the past month. There's years of bone-headedness at work here. And I can't help but see this as just another extension of that.

The resume for Colonel Vincent V. Quarles, Army Corps of Engineers Chicago District Comander can be seen here:

It is notable for its lack of any indication of training or experience (or even interest in) any aspect of conservation, ecology, fisheries, limnology or anything else that might lead you to respect his judgement on this issue.

Wouldn't these carp be good fertilizer, perhaps we could use them to grow better food. Use what we have instead of poisoning the fish, the water and the soil.

Two weeks ago while fishing at Hammond marina a lady had 3 strange looking fish landed. They looked like carp due to the scale size but had more oval shaped bodies compared to the carp that I've seen before. I know there are a few different species of Asian carp. I wonder if they could be one of these. Wish I had a camera with me.

why not create a market for it.All catfood should come from fish like this.Right now salmon and tuna are served to cats...shameful!

Frank Avila who is a Commissioner at the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago did a TV program about the asian carp with Philip B. Moy, Ph.D., a fisheries and non-indigenous species specialist with the Wisconsin Sea Grant Institute. The link is here

I will say now what I said 5 years ago. They are closeing the door to the barn after the horse is out. Heck, the barrier was off more than it was on for the longest time. They had to shut it off to let commercial traffic thru since they built the thing. Its a shame that the only way it`s finnaly getting attention is at the killing of a section of waterway. I have seen personaly what it has done to the rivers. Sure, its fun to watch the videos of fish jumping all around and in boats. Its just a shame that it had to go this far. Way to many people dragged there feet to long on this matter. All I can do is hope they are in the boats scooping up all the dead fish and animals that had nothing to do with this.

I know the Greeks make a caviar spread with carp roe. Also they make gefilte fish out of carp.

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