Reporting with Natasha Korecki

Danielle Stilz, deputy finance director for Friends of Blagojevich from 2005 to 2007, is testifying about the ex-governor's involvement in campaign fund-raising.

Blagojevich was active in many aspects of fund-raising during Stilz's tenure, she said, taking part in strategy meetings, placing calls to prospective donors, etc.

Stilz is the second witness to say that Blago was involved in FOB's fund-raising -- and to suggest, then, that he lied to federal investigators when he claimed otherwise in 2005.

Stilz is also the second witness to bring up Blago's "bulls----er" remark. When she says that, Blagojevich again smiled and licked his bottom lip.