By Natasha Korecki

Doug Scofield testifies about talk of the cabinet position being discussed by Tom Balanoff and Valerie Jarrett.

Scofield said he was discussing the prospect with union member Jerry Morrison, who was skeptical.

"The president-elect and the people around the president-elect wanted to get away from Chicago politics," Scofied testified.

That set up a call where Blagojevich is heard equating Chicago politics with Tony Rezko, whose relationship with Obama had been an issue in the presidential campaign.

"She's holding hers with two hands ... sort of clinging to it. Me, I've got the whole thing wrapped around my arms," Blagojevich is heard saying about Jarrett and the Senate seat.

The courtroom grows quiet during this portion of the recording -- a snippet that had been revealed previously in government documents.