A heavy-breathing Rod Blagojevich sounds as if he's lifting weights at home as he's heard on speaker phone suggesting Oprah Winfrey as Illinois' next U.S. Senator.
"That's crazy," his top aide John Harris is heard responding.
"That's where you're wrong," the then-governor says. "She's a king-maker. She made Obama. ... She's up there so high that no one can assail this pick. This would be huge."
Rod Blagojevich is audibly out of breath during the conversation.
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