New Bears head coach Marc Trestman has hired former Bears offensive coordinator Matt Cavanaugh as his quarterbacks coach and Skip Peete as his running backs coach.
Cavanaugh, who was the New York Jets' quarterbacks coach the past four seasons, was the Bears' offensive coordinator under Dave Wannstedt in 1997-98 when the Bears were in a constant state of flux at quarterback (Erik Kramer, Rick Mirer, Steve Stenstrom, Moses Moreno) and finished 17th (1997) and 21st (1998) in total offense.
After leaving the Bears, he became the offensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens (1999-2004) under Brian Billick and won the Super Bowl in 2000 with Trent Dilfer at quarterback. He was the offensive coordinator for Wannstedt at Pitt (2005-08) before joining the Jets. Under Cavanaugh's tutelage, Mark Sanchez became only the fifth quarterback in the Super Bowl era to win 30 games (including the postseason) in his first three seasons -- with four road victories in the playoffs, tied for the second-most in NFL history.
Peete has been the Cowboys' running backs coach since 2007. He was a running backs coach with the Oakland Raiders from 1998-2006, overlapping with Trestman's three-year tenure as offensive coordinator from 2001-03 -- including the 2002 season when the Raiders won the AFC championship and played in the Super Bowl.
Now come on Mark, Sanchez? You write stuff like that to #### me off right? Sanchez won 30 games? No the Jets won 30 games and Sanchez nearly cost them every win. He blows, I mean he really, really, blows. Talkin' bout Sanchez. You can't just say he coached him, no you got to try and make it seem like he did something good with that clown. I don't blame the guy for Sanchez sucking as much as he does. All you gotta do is watch Hard Knocks to see what kind of clown that guy is.
Who you trying to clown bringing up Sanchez like it's a good thing? Who put you up to that? Was it Sean? Did you lose a bet? Talkin' bout Sanchez? Sanchez?
Trestman's NFL record from 9 years ago:
Team offense
Year Team Yards Points
1989 CLE 16th 14th
1995 SFO 2nd 1st
1996 SFO 6th 3rd
1998 ARI 13th 15th
1999 ARI 29th 30th
2000 ARI 24th 29th
2002 OAK 1st 2nd
2003 OAK 25th 26th
Just sayin'...
Don...I think you got to look behind some of those numbers to get to the truth..for example if you look at OAK in 2003 you would see that Gannon got hurt and for like 12 games Rick Mier was the QB Trestman had to work with...no wonder the numbers drop...if you look at the 96 Niners..Young got hurt and if I remember correctly I think that was the year William Floyd who was a stud RB blew out his knee in a rather gruesome Thiesman like scene... The offense only drops a couple of spots with Elvis Grbac at QB...I think it's pretty impressive the offense only dropped that much. By 98-00 was the highest paid OC..don't know the AZ reasons but I think given that the guy was the highest paid OC ...people are truly valuing his skill set. I'm excited to see how he helps Cutler be the elite QB that a lot of us think he can be...
Okay that;s it, enough is enough. How many years people? How, many years? How many times do I have to show you how this is done. How many years have we been over this? Time and again, time and again. You all do not pay attention, it's like the ADD for Bears football web site up in this place.
You know why I am always right, because I FRIGGIN GOOGLE! It's not that hard people. You want the basic stats, then go to pro football reference, it's that easy. You want to know how to do a sample size? You do the years before and the years after and compare them. Look for the diffrence. That's it.
You want to know about the Raiders offense? Fine, they got good when Gruden took over. They went from one of the worst offenses to one of the best and Trestman was not in the picture. He arrived after they got good. Gannon was an All Pro and Prow Bowler the year before Trestman got there. End of story. He worked with Gannon when he was with the Vikings. Do you remember how bad Gannon was then? He sucked.
You are trying to figure out the 49ers? Are you kidding me? One of the best teams in history and your trying to figure it out. Fine it's this simple the 49ers were one of the best teams in the league for a decade and a half before Trestman. They consistantly had the best offense in the league. They were number 1 over and over. In fact they were the number 1 offense in the nfl for three in a row before Trestman arrived and Young was the best QB in the league before Trestman ever got to San Fran. He had already won the NFL mvp two years in a row, he was a three time all pro and 3 time pro bowler Pre Trestman. The 49ers just won the Super Bowl the year before Trestman got there. That's it, that's all you need to know. HE DID NOT HURT NOR DID HE IMPROVE ANYTHING.
Now for Arizona, Arizona sucked before Trestman, anf they sucked during Trestman, and they sucked after Trestman. He did nothing for Plummer. Plummer was aweful under Trestman. Plummer got good when he got to Denver, and it had nothing to do with Trestman. That's it, that's all there is to it. Does it mean the guy is bad or good? No cause none of us were on those teams and we have no clue what was going on. All he has is a history of not really improving anything but not really hurting anything. What I do know is that Gannon and Plummer improved under different people. It was not him, and Young was amazing to begin with.
How does this help Cutler? It doesn't. You want to know how to fix Cutler? It's actualyl pretty easy. It's not his feet, sure he shows bad footwork sometimes, but they all do. No you just need to put him in the right scheme, with a line that can block for that scheme, and do a good job of calling plays. The real work starts after that, cause until you get that setteled nothing is going to work. After that you have to work on his choices. Cutler throws off his back foot? No kidding he sometimes does, but not that often. Throwing off your back foot is not a habit. Guys do it when they are trying to hardd to make a play, they do it when they are in trouble and instead of eating the sack or throwing it away they make a bad call and go for it. He sometimes throws across his body. Again they all do, you just saw Manning do it and he threw a pick.
To put it simply he is trying to hard to make plays, he just needs to play smarter and be in a good consistnat scheme foe a couple of years. No qb actually has the habit of throwing off their back foot, they do it when they are being stupid or being risky. Favre used to do it all the time. Jay plants and throws all the time, he actually has a nice release. Jays problem is between his ears he needs to play smarter football, he needs to stop being a high risk QB. That is it. You can't drill a guy to do that, their is no practice drill to make that happen. He just needs to make the choice to not be so risky when he plays. That's what Rodgers does, why do think you see Rodgers eating so many sacks. Because he is a safe QB, if he does not see it, he almost never forces it. He will take the sack before he does anything risky. Hell he even knows how to take a sack, you almost never see him get layed out, he usually gets dragged down slowly, and has himself braced and the ball secured and just goes with it. Jay hates taking sacks because to often he is getting layed out to the point of being knocked sensless. He is getting slammed from the blind side or hit on jail breaks beforer he has even finished his drops. And this is happening to one of the best guys in the league at avoiding pressure. Yo ualready know what happens to the line when he is out of a game, it gets worse. Much much worse.
Trestman is here, let him do his thing, if it works it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. It's not like we have a choice. The guy has been in Canada for 5 years, we have no clue how he has changed or what he is doing with his offense. Now put the garbage in a box and lock it down. Cause we are no where near a new season and the arguments are already starting. Over a guy who has done nothing with the Bears yet because he just arrived. I'll tell you one thing about this guy, he has a good eye for talent.
Guy goes away for a few months and everyone gets delusions of grandeur.
The verbose Creighton returns. I notice you skipped over Trestman's record in Canada. Did he inherit all that talent as well? Not really. He basically rebuilt a couple of champions. In any case, we will see in the next couple of years whether or not he'll be a bust.My only complaint against him so far was his "That's a great question..." record player. I would have prefered a " I just answered that question. Weren't you listening?" That would have been the Cutler response. However, I suppose he can be excused for now as the new kid on the block.
cutler's not going to listen to Matt Cavenaugh -
money down the drain.
All that talent in Canada? What talent in Canada, but yeah he walked into the best team in the league when got to Montreal. They also had the best GM in the league. Lets take Calvillo, his QB, they talk about all the great work trestman did with him and how he improved. Well his numbers did not improve. He had a 6000 yard season before Trestman, and was already a league MVP. 2002 5000 yards 27 TD's, 2003 5800 yards 37 TD's, 2004 6000 yards 31 TD's, 2005 5600 yards 34 TD's. It keeps going like that. Oh boy did he suck, yeah Trestman really changed his world. They played for the Grey cup which is like their Super Bowl, in 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2006. They won their division in 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, oh goodness me did they suck before Trestman, okay yes they had been the best team in Canada that decade but, Trestman made them good when he got there in 2008. They had a down year in 2007, thats it. It was mostly the same team that won the Grey Cup in 2002.
Trestman did not draft the talent either, lets get that right, it was Jim Popp, the guy who hired him. The line had guys like Flory a 5 time all star before Trestman, Bourke OT drafted in 2004 but did not play until 2008, the reason being? He was in the nfl for a few years. How about C Chiu a 6 time all star before trestman?
WR, Bratton was added in 2007, Deslauriers 2006, Watkins a two time all star, Cahoon a two time all star oh and a two time MVP before Trestman. Yes what a bunch of scrubs. He had two MVP's on his offense man.
Oh and on defense he had like 5-6 all stars and the defensive MVP. So three MVP's on one team were handed to this guy. Wow he is a miracle worker.
Not to mention all the playerrs who are gone now, Montreal is rebuilding after over a decade of dominant play. This team started getting good in 96, not 2008. Not saying he helped or hurt the team, but he was handed one of the best teams in Canada, and had the best QB in canada. Think what you want, it's not like have not been down this road before. I mean what to do I know right? The truth is he got to work with good players on some good teams, but they were good before he got there. That is my only point. I am not going to give him Credit for Steve Young, sorry that's not happening, Younf was a two time NFL mvp before Trestman. I am not going to give him Credit for Jake Plummers play with Denver because Trestman was never in Denver, and Plummer sucked with Arizona for 3 years under Trestman.
The fact is Trestman got to these teams after they had already been good, and when the teams were not good he did not change them. Like I said I do not know if he is going to be good or bad, but I am not going to give him credit for stuff he did not do. This so called brilliant OC could not get a job in the NFL after the Dolphins, even Martz got a job after the Rams and he had been black balled by their owner.
I am pretty sure he won't hurt the offense, I mean it can't get any worse right? But that does not make him a great head coach. I like some of his coaching hires like the guy from the Saints. Not really thrilled about the Canadian club guys but none of them is in any real position to do damage.
I give credit where credit is do, yeah this guy made Steve Young, and all that other nonsense. He never built a team and never turned a team around. Martz was a so called genius for years, then he was a nut. Even now he is handed a 10 win team, with Cutler, Marshall, Forte, Peppers, Briggs, Tillman, Jennings, it's not like he is dying for star type players. If Marshall has a big year next season do you think I am going to be like this guy made Brandon Marshall? Marshall is pretty good already. All I want him to do is call plays like a normal human being, fix the line, get a TE and a deep threat. You do that and 95 percent of your Cutler problems are fixed. You ever wonder why Jay gets so mad about it taking forever to get a play call in? It's because he is a fast paced QB, he loves the hurry up. Quick tempo, high percentage throws, mixed in with a deep pass every now and then.
You know what worries me about Emery and his choices? He doesn't know what to look for. Listen to him he is always talking about asking other people their opinions, then he says "but I made the call". The Best guys just know, they know it when they see it. Emery needs to check, then double check, then triple check, and ask everyone what they think. You know why you triple check stuff? People say it's because they want to be sure. I disagree, it's because they are not sure that they keep having to check it. You check over and over because you are worried. Look when you check on a baby in a crib are you doing it because you are sure the baby is fine, or are you the typical parinoid parent that needs to make sure they are breathing, or that they are safe, or that everything is okay. Parents do that because they worry about there kids. It's normal, but it's because you worry that you do it, not because you are sure everything is fine.
I can't be sure Trestman is a great pick because Emery picked him, and he has not wowed me, his last call was Tice at OC. I think Marc is going to find himself doing a lot fo work for Emery, scouting for him, helping him with the draft. But we will see. He looks smart, he also looks like a 50 year old Alfalfa from the little rascals.
Emery is not responsible for Tice being OC. Lovie was. That's one of the many reasons he's no longer here.
Actually, he was the interim OC and Emery in fact promoted and gave him his new contract. Sure Smith had a hand in it, but remind me who was the GM? Was it Lovie? Lovie could make and authorize contracts? Really? Who told you that lie? The GM could fire anyone on Lovie's staff at anytime he wanted. Emery said he was the man, Emery said it's his calls. Emery actually said it, so wh yare you arguing about it? Emery said he makes the calls. Debate over, your last leg to stand on just got chopped.
"He looks smart, he also looks like a 50 year old Alfalfa from the little rascals."
Or Alan Colmes. I'm sure your politics match up well with his, Big C? LOL!
And by the way, I wasn't belittling Trestman. Just pointing out that all these forecasts of future glory weren't based on a lot of evidence. I don't buy what happened in Canada as definitive. I hope he and Mel Tucker work wonders but we still should be skeptical until we see it actually happen.