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Moore has problem with Cutler's antics

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Cutler_yelling-x-wide-community.pngWhile there was a lot of tip-toeing going on around Halas Hall on Monday afternoon, cornerback D.J. Moore seldom does things quietly.

Asked about quarterback Jay Cutler and his sideline tirade on tackle J'Marcus Webb in the Thursday night nationally televised loss to Green Bay, Moore pulled no punches, starting with the criticism Cutler seems to be getting not only by a lot of the local media, but national media.

"What did he do? Did he shove the guy? Oh yeah,'' Moore said sarcastically. "[I think the criticism is warranted] man. I don't think you can act like that, though. To make it seem like it's just my fault or what not, I think it's just wrong, though honestly. I would feel a certain way if he did me like that, to make it seem like, 'Well, the reason I'm having a bad game is because is what you're doing and not about me taking accountability for myself because I'm throwing these type of passes and doing these type of reads.' It's a tough situation.''

Asked if Cutler is under a different set of rules because he is the quarterback of the team, Moore said, "Sometimes, but when you act like that, though, with your own teammates on the sideline, it's just something different that you normally wouldn't do. You might say it in the locker room or something, but to do it like he did, that's something different. It's just weird.

"I didn't know it really happened until I looked on TV, and it kind of made you feel a certain way a little bit. But he is what he is. He's always been that way, and I wouldn't expect him to change.''

Asked if someone needed to talk to him about it or is quarterback one untouchable, Moore said, "The quarterback? Quarterback and he makes a lot of money, and he can throw the ball? He'll be alright. He's throw a couple passes and they'll forget about it next week.''

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Thank the fates for Jay Cutler. He has taken about all the crap a dysfunctional franchise can dish out and still has pushed, by himself almost, this team and city into the 21st century.

Think about the linemen, receivers, offensive coordinators, offensive schemes, scouting, game-planning, and game management that has been, to use a polite phrase, "inexact" since Cutler arrived.

What Chicago should be talking about when highlighting the slow improvement in the Cutler era is Lovie Smith. It is Smith that pushed the club to hire Mike Martz. Smith who likes J'Marcus Webb and who thought Orlando Pace had some good years left in the tank. From many reports, Smith who pushed to draft Chris Williams after being impressed with his maturity (hey, the guy is married!) and who consistently lobbied for defensive draft picks over offensive players, leading to wasted high picks on players like Dan Byzine, Dusty Dvoracek, and almost every third-round safety and fifth-round cornerback drafted every year (hey, where's my Trumane McBride jersey? Anybody seen it?). Smith who says Kellen Davis is as tall as any tight end in the NFL, therefore as good (tell that to my 6'7" grandfather, who catches passes about as well). Smith who insists he defense always, always, always receive free agent help first. Smith who wanted this year's first-round pick when the obvious choices were staring everyone in the face against all odds. Smith who has no real interest in designing a modern NFL offense that could defeat modern NFL defensive schemes. Smith who clashes with the talented coaches beneath him (Ron Rivera, anyone?) and pushes them out the door. And lest we forget, Smith who once again played go-for-broke, save-my-job football in the meaningless last game of the season, in which we saw the only legitimate Hall of Fame player the Bears have had since Dan Hampton wrecking his knee.

But hey, Lovie's our coach. Light it up Chicago, blame the really talented one who really cares, and let the weirdo secrecy freak from podunkville Texas off the hook yet again. What's a decade of poorly executed offense between friends?

It's not just Chicago or Chicago media who's criticizing Cutler's actions, it's national media and former great players and coaches. You're quite correct in most of your complaints about Smith and the lousy organization -- which, BTW, starts with the McKaskeys -- but there's no excuse for berating your teammates in public, bumping one of them, or throwing them under the bus in the media after the game.

A QB has to be the leader of the offense if not the entire team. Among other things, that means that people have to want to play for him, to run though walls for him. Think Webb or anyone else wants to do that now? The loss itself is nowhere nears as bad as the potential consequences of what Cutler did, which threatens to wreck the entire season.

What the f*** is it with Chicago teams?! Even with their flaws, everyone thought that the Bears were poised to make a run for the Super Bowl this season. Instead, we get the guy who's supposed to be the team leader pulling a crybaby meltdown in Green Bay, possibly ruining the entire season. I still haven't gotten over the Bulls and this is getting really hard to take. But at least the Bulls' problems were caused by injuries, not immature behavior by the supposed team leader. I would usually take consolation in being a Raider fan also now that I live in Oakland, but as bad as they are that's no help. Come on Chicago, get it together, there's absolutely no excuse for this garbage.

Lovie Smith, take control of your team for a change. You can't just let everyone do whatever they want. You want to be like Tom Landry? Start acting like it. Can you imagine what Landry would have done if his QB and nickel back had acted and spoken in public like that?

Jay Cutler, grow the f*** up! The world does not revolve around you. Players who have no talent cannot play any better than they are, don't yell at them, it won't make them play better and could even make them play worse. If you want to yell at someone, yell at Phil Emory and Lovie Smith, who are responsible for not fixing the mess that's called your offensive line. And do it in private, not in public. And take some responsibility yourself. You wanted receivers, you got them, probably at the expense of getting a better line. And hey, while it's true that you got no protection, really good quarterbacks don't go to pieces in those situations. Complaining that the plays called didn't get Green Bay out of it's 2 deep man defense? Why didn't you audible?

After waiting an entire lifetime to get a franchise QB who could stay healthy, the Bears might have to give up on Cutler. If he's lost his teammates (unlikely at this point, but who knows?) or loses them in the future, he's useless and the Bears might as well trade him for whatever they could get. Phil Emory seems to be doing a good job fixing the mess he took over, but Lovie Smith bears a large part of the responsibility for this latest disaster. Smith needs to grow a pair and let Cutler know the score. If the Bears don't at least make the playoffs this season -- and more likely, if they don't at least get to the NFC Championship game -- this has to be Smith's last year.

What many might not get is that the problems with Cutler's actions are far more important than losing one game on the road in September. This could sabotage the whole season, along with Lovie Smith's career as a Bear coach, for better or worse. I really hope the team can recover from this, and one thing good about Smith is his even keel attitude that might allow a recovery here. For the Bears and the sake of their fans, I certainly hope so.

You do not get it.

1. The national media is in the "if it bleeds, it leads" business. Bleeding Jay Cutler is profitable.

2. You are not qualified to know who a leader - or a QB is. If you do, please post your resume.

3. Chris Carter - who was on the radio this morning saying Jay Cutler wasn't a leader - has had NUMEROUS meltdowns on the sideline. He berated opponents and coaches. He has no business calling someone a leader based on Cutler yelling at Web to "Get your f****ing head in the game!" That's all Cutler said. Heck, that's been said to me at a community basketball game.

4. DJ Moore, while critical of Cutler, also said he didn't think it was that big a deal.

5. Steve Young went on Chicago radio and said he knew of hall of famers that screamed at other players on the sidelines and in the locker room nearly every day.

6. Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady have been known to scream at their teammates on the sideline. Aikman grabbed a facemask - and Peyton went on and on and on when yelling at Jeff Saturday.

7. Jay said one thing, Webb laughed at him, Jay gave him a bump because Webb was really being disrespectful by ignoring him. It is not Jay's fault that Webb is disrespectful. Webb sucks - and does not care. Tice has alluded to Webb's indiferent attitude in the past.

9. In the press conference, Jay did not "throw his teammates under the bus" - he was responding directly to a question as to why he lost his cool. He used "we" language, and yes, he was talking about Webb - but - he was being honest and not really attacking Webb. Again, he was answering a question about the incident. Something the media has criticized him for - not answering questions so they can have a quote.

10. Cutler did not shove or berate Webb. He yelled one sentence at him and gave him a bump as he walked away.

Just stop it. The media and retarded fans like you are threatening to destroy the season, not Jay Cutler.

WFB- Thanks for the comment. But consider one thing:

People criticize the Lake Forest Elite Family that shall go unnamed by me for too long cozying up to organization members who were not up to snuff. Dave Moustache. Sweaty Teddy. Jerry of the Angels. Even Lovie, whom the Lake Forest Elite Family apparently adores for his soft Southwest twang and gentle demeanor. Fans like me roast the LFEF for not meeting the one goal demanded of any business ownership: hire the right people, and fire them if they prove to not be the right people after all.

So, why hold Cutler to a different standard? He in his own way takes ownership of the team with his body and its future pains. He is the field general. Those around him are teammates, but they are not as important as he. Running through walls for leadership does not mean that you particularly like that leader, ask any non-com in any Marine platoon that ever existed. All I hear is that Webb has all the tools, but he's still a crappy player. How many times do you yourself want to punch the guy in the face after a crappy block? Chris Spencer is supposed to be a great free-agent pick-up. Fine. And he should be yelled at, poked, bumped, and demeaned publicly when he plays like he did Thursday.

I am sick of everyone wanting it all ways. Do we want a winning team? More to the point, do we want a synchronous offense that is pleasurable to watch? Nobody likes Tom Coughlin. Nobody. But he demands high standards, has set the "on time means you're late" culture for the modern NFL, and his teams play like hell and are fun to watch. Is he a boor? Yes. Does Lovie Smith act boorish? Do we even need to answer that? Let Jay Cutler be a jerk because nobody else will, and the national media can go...well, I won't finish that thought. After all I've heard from the ESPN radio and TV commentators just in 2012 could be summed up thus: Penn State and Joe Paterno the real victims, Jay Cutler the worst person who ever lived.

So, Troy Aikman, Bill Cowher, and Terry Bradshaw don't know what they're talking about and/or have no integrity? If that's your position we'll have to agree to disagree.

As to your insulting smart-ass comments, I DO know what I'm talking about, I used to play quarterback. But it's not just playing QB or any other position (or even sport), it's understanding people and relationship dynamics. I never said anyone had to like Cutler for him to be a leader, that would be dead wrong. But no one respects a self-centered crybaby who blames others while failing to take responsibly for his own actions and mistakes, and that's where Cutler is at right now. If you think Cutler can be a leader acting like that, you must have loved Jeff George.

As to the bumping incident, even Cutler admitted he was wrong to do that. You just don't hit or even make unfriendly contact with a teammate in any sport, period. The fact that you're defending Cutler doing this shows that YOU have no idea what you're talking about. Do you learn nothing from the sports you play?

Finally, I'm not defending Webb's or anyone else's bad play. But the fact remains that it's not Webb's fault that he's bad, it's the organization's fault that they haven't dealt with the festering problem at left tackle since Jimbo Covert was forced to retire. And you don't make bad players better by yelling at them, simple as that. And now that problem has expanded to the entire offensive line except for right tackle and guard, the latter of which the Bears apparently got lucky with. (Garza's playing pretty well for someone who hadn't played center for decades, but he's old for an athlete and won't be around much longer.) You can get as mad as you want at players like Webb, but it won't make gold from a chunk of coal.

1. Yes it's about respect, and you won't get respect treating your teammates the way Cutler does or otherwise acting like he does. I never said anyone had to LIKE Cutler, I don't know where you guys are getting that.

2. Webb does not have all the tools. His feet move like they're in cement, for one thing. For another he doesn't use his hands very well. And, he doesn't have the drive or aggressiveness it takes to be a good lineman. He's big and he's athletic in other ways, but I'll be shocked if he ever becomes a good left tackle.

3. Tom Coughlin had to dial it back a few notches in order to become successful. When he coached Jacksonville the players rebelled against him, and they were on the verge of doing that in New York before having a sit down with him and convincing him to stop being such an anal jerk. Once he realized that he couldn't act that way and win, and changed his personality, the Giants became the successful team they are today.

4. This isn't about the media, I don't care about that so much (though it would be nice to not be embarrassed, as a Bear fan, by this kind of stuff). It's about Cutler's relationship with his teammates, especially those on offense, and especially those on the line. If they don't respect him because they don't think he's got their backs, because he blames them for all the team's problems, or for any other reason, the offense will not be successful. Bill Cowher said that if this doesn't get fixed that the Bears might have to get another QB. Maybe you don't think that Cowher knows what he's talking about or that he's just another media person whoring for the spotlight, but I don't believe that for a second. And he's only one of many people who were in the NFL who've said something similar.

Cutler can be as big of a jerk as he wants so long as he commands his teammates' respect. But if he doesn't it all falls apart. That's the issue, not whether people like Cutler or whether the corporate media is right or wrong.

@WrigleyFieldBear:

Your words: "So, Troy Aikman, Bill Cowher, and Terry Bradshaw don't know what they're talking about and/or have no integrity? If that's your position we'll have to agree to disagree."

You still do not get it. Are you really that thick?

Bill Cowher coached a QB who DID lose his locker room, violated his contract, and was investigated for forcible rape in two separate parts of the country - yet - Rothlesberger isn't hated like Cutler. And Cowher has the gall to say "the Bears will have to make a change."

Aikman, Manning, and others have acted the SAME WAY CUTLER does (berating teammates ... maybe even worse. Why does that qualify them to criticize him as a leader?

There's a term - it's called "hypocrisy." Do you know what that means? It means that those guys are poor analysts, unwilling to point the perceptive pen at themselves before passing judgement and commenting. It's poor broadcasting and yellow journalism.

The situation reached an all time low when the local police made Cutler attend his public radio show in a Kevlar vest.

The mass media's presentation of Cutler is what makes him a villain - and the retarded fan's (your) inability to process said information.

Don't worry, It's not your fault. You're just one of millions of information age infants too stupid to realize what they're being fed.

Enjoy the baby food.

None of the players you mentioned threw their teammates under the bus in the media the way Cutler has done, which along with bumping Webb is the worst part of all this. In his post-game interview, Cutler never admitted any fault for his own bad play, he just blamed coaches and other players. Listen to other good QBs when their offenses have bad games. They take responsibility for the losses and bad play and say "we" have to do better.

Bad scheme & calls that didn't get Green Bay out of its 2 deep man? How about audibling Jay, Mike Martz is gone and there's no excuse now. And like I said above, just because the line is playing poorly is no excuse for going to pieces. How about audibling to some roll outs.

You're just upset because the media correctly called out someone who apparently is one of your heroes and can do no wrong. I've always been a supporter of Cutler and really hope he gets it together. But the fact is that he has personality issues that could ruin the offense if he doesn't get them under control. This is all about how Cutler's teammates think of him, not how the media portrays him or what fans think. If his teammates don't respect him they won't play hard for him. Some guys will play hard no matter what, but some need to follow a leader. For the latter, a leaderless offense will cause indifferent play, simple as that.

Isnt this a contract year? If Cutler can't cut it maybe say goodbye keep Campbell to train the kid from WWU and go from there. Use the money saved on Cutler to get at least two offensive linemen. Just a thought.

Cutler didn't throw his team mates under the bus!

The media, who says he doesn't answer their questions honestly, simply asked Jay a question as to why he lost his cool and shouted at Webb - and Jay then answered it.

Moore threw Cutler under the bus. Got a problem with that? Everyone thinks Cutler threw his guys under the bus. Any problems with Moore?

Forte left the game with a minor ankle sprain. Got a problem with that? Everyone thought Cutler tapped out in the NFC title game - even though it was later shown he had an MCL tear. Any problems with Forte?

Yesterday, Cutler went on a radio show and said he shouldn't have bumped Webb - and also owned his own poor play.

NOW everyone (ESPN) is saying, "well, he didn't sound sincere enough."

Are you freaking kidding me? This is ridiculous.

In three years of playing for Chicago Jay has never thrown his teammates under the bus. He didn't do it in the post game presser or on his radio show - AGAIN - he was answering a question about why he got upset with Webb.

The problem is this - and it's the last time I'm going to say it - YOU DON'T GET IT.

You didn't listen to the questions or the entire press conference - which is why you are unable to accurately process the information. CONTEXT. Take the time to filter through the soundbites and the tweets and the radio shows that choose and select what they want to you hear because it sensationalizes a topic - which sells papers and increases web hits.

You are getting your data in bits and pieces from former players who have little or no knowledge of the actual situation - and are only reacting to what they have just heard, which is a 3-5 second soundbite - or even a poorly verbal reiteration of the situation from another journalist looking to stir the pot.

Being a former hall of fame football player does not qualify someone to engage in an intelligent discussion about anything. It really doesn't. It's all opinion. What's unfortunate is, those opinions are being voiced with hypocrisy and backed with almost no information about the actual situation.

Here's an example: A source close the situation told me you may have a ridiculously low IQ and might be a closet gay porn star.

The "source" in the example is my teenage son who hates football. The "situation" is this blog - and I'm "close" to it because we are interacting on it - I am also "close" to my son. I also used the word "might" to ensure that I am not actually stating you are a closet gay porn star.

Get it?

My qualifications? I am a business analyst who works for politicians. Additionally, I wrote and broadcasted news radio for almost 8 years.

Spin baby, spin.

Do you see how that works? Now pull your head out and start being objective.

Cutler didn't throw his team mates under the bus!

The media, who says he doesn't answer their questions honestly, simply asked Jay a question as to why he lost his cool and shouted at Webb - and Jay then answered it.

Moore threw Cutler under the bus. Got a problem with that? Everyone thinks Cutler threw his guys under the bus. Any problems with Moore?

Forte left the game with a minor ankle sprain. Got a problem with that? Everyone thought Cutler tapped out in the NFC title game - even though it was later shown he had an MCL tear. Any problems with Forte?

Yesterday, Cutler went on a radio show and said he shouldn't have bumped Webb - and also owned his own poor play.

NOW everyone (ESPN) is saying, "well, he didn't sound sincere enough."

Are you freaking kidding me? This is ridiculous.

In three years of playing for Chicago Jay has never thrown his teammates under the bus. He didn't do it in the post game presser or on his radio show - AGAIN - he was answering a question about why he got upset with Webb.

The problem is this - and it's the last time I'm going to say it - YOU DON'T GET IT.

You didn't listen to the questions or the entire press conference - which is why you are unable to accurately process the information. CONTEXT. Take the time to filter through the soundbites and the tweets and the radio shows that choose and select what they want to you hear because it sensationalizes a topic - which sells papers and increases web hits.

You are getting your data in bits and pieces from former players who have little or no knowledge of the actual situation - and are only reacting to what they have just heard, which is a 3-5 second soundbite - or even a poorly verbal reiteration of the situation from another journalist looking to stir the pot.

Being a former hall of fame football player does not qualify someone to engage in an intelligent discussion about anything. It really doesn't. It's all opinion. What's unfortunate is, those opinions are being voiced with hypocrisy and backed with almost no information about the actual situation.

Here's an example: A source close the situation told me you may have a ridiculously low IQ and might be a closet gay porn star.

The "source" in the example is my teenage son who hates football. The "situation" is this blog - and I'm "close" to it because we are interacting on it - I am also "close" to my son. I also used the word "might" to ensure that I am not actually stating you are a closet gay porn star.

Get it?

My qualifications? I am a business analyst who works for politicians. Additionally, I wrote and broadcasted news radio for almost 8 years.

Spin baby, spin.

Do you see how that works? Now pull your head out and start being objective.

I think DeputyDawg just made me feel ashamed to be a Bears fan.

“People at Halas Hall are concerned that there is going to be a mutiny. If [Cutler] does something again at some point, J’Marcus Webb isn’t going to just laugh it off. (They’re afraid) something ugly is going to happen, whether it’s at practice, whether it’s in a game, whether it’s in a meeting room - the fuse is getting shorter and shorter. There’s concern that something is going to happen.”
Mike Florio

I was thrilled when the Bears got Cutler, the best passer and potentially best QB they've had since Sid Luckman. And I fully supported Cutler during and after the 2010 Championship game controversy, including defending him in an argument with one of the guys who watches bear games with us at the sports bar and who's hated Cutler since his days in Denver. I'm also unhappy with D.J. Moore for shooting off his mouth like that in public. (Your comments about Forte are BS and just as idiotic as those attacking Cutler for being taken out of the Championship game, however.)

But none of that excuses what Cutler did, both on the field and in the press conference. If you want to remain Cutler's lone defender, be my guest. I know what I saw and read, and it's all bad. This situation is national sports news for a damn good reason. Are you paranoid? Do you think there's a conspiracy against Cutler? Even if, for the sake of argument, I concede that Cutler didn't say anything wrong to the press after the game, his actions THAT I SAW during the game were inexcusable, mainly bumping Webb. And while his apology is good enough for me, I can't argue with comments that it wasn't sincere enough. I just think that the press should leave the story alone for now.

This is my final comment on the matter (until/unless Cutler does something else). Again, if you want to continue to rail against the world, go right ahead, but you're defending someone's behavior and personality that are indefensible.

BTW, I'm a well-read political radical and I probably know more about spin and propaganda than you do, including Burson-Marsteller and framing per Lakoff. But unless you think they doctored the TV picture of the game, they can't spin what we all saw happen, and the TV broadcasters commented on it immediately. For the last time, this is not about the press or spin, it's about Cutler's behavior and how he relates to his teammates.

Bwah-hahahah!

WFB, I am literally in TEARS laughing at the fact that you quoted Mike Florio as some kind of expert voice on all this! LOL!!!! Mike Florio! Hahahahaha!!!! Aww man!! I haven't laughed like that in some time!

Oh noes! Mike Florio predicts impending doom! Bears players better make sure they wear all their good luck charms! Hahahahahaha!!!! X-D


Sorry but I've been a fan since Sayers and Butkus and some reality needs to be injected into the kool-aid my friend. Cutlets leadership qualities have been in question from day one we were just so glad to have the only real ( or so we thought) qb since Jimmy Mac we were willing to give him a flyer. But Lovie ain't Shanahan and Cutler hasn't been the same since, can you say system quarterback? I don't fault all on Lovie. Tide was out coached by Capers and he made zero adjustments. Quick slants and skinny post were open all night Jeffery was not used to his strength no short confidence makers were called. It actually looked like Tice got caught up in Cutlers bravado and refused to change. I have navy and orange kool-aid flowing throught my veins but this stuff with a weak defensive team like the Pack hurts me no end. So if you took offense it's on you I just wish the Bears would take offense and show some stones sit that giant turnstile down play to the size and strength of what you have.

Well said, MIke.

What WFB doesn't get is Florio is the king of "a source close to the situation" play - which is commonly used language to ... basically ... offer up sensational conjecture with little or no evidence.

Pro Football Talk.com is THE National Enquirer of the NFL.

Wrigley Field, let me directly respond to you by saying:

BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!!!

* cough * cough *

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.

If you are going to convict Cutler of "inexcusable" behavior, you must also convict:

Peyton Manning: for a 1-2 minute tirade of Jeff Saturday - which concluded with "I'll call the plays - YOU BLOCK!"

Aaron Rodgers: for berating his WRs on multiple occasions and using excessive profanity. BTW he also was caught on YouTube ignoring autograph seeking cancer patients.

Troy Aikman: for berating his offensive line on multiple occasions - and then - in 98 - for grabbing facemasks and screaming so ferociously he spat in on lineman's face.

Ben Rothlesberger: for actually losing his locker room, violating his contract for crashing his motorcycle, and ruining an entire Steelers season after getting suspended for 6 games for MULTIPLE RAPE INVESTIGATIONS.

Buddy Ryan: for punching Kevin Gilbride on the sidelines.

Mike Ditka: for screaming at Jim Harbaugh for almost 2 minutes over a play-action audible.

JIm Harbaugh: for screaming at Mike Ditka for almost 2 minutes for calling a play-action audible.

Tom Brady: for humiliating his offensive coordinator on multiple occaisions, culminating in an on-camera dressing down with which he used excessive profanities.

Matt Forte: for leaving last weeks game against he Pack with a minor ankle sprain. Even though Jay missed the NFC title game with an MCL tear.

You good with that? Or do you need more evidence? I have it.

Late. CLOWN.

Sir I don't agree. Cutler hasnot earned the right to be considered in the same sentence with Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Aikman or really even Capt. Comeback Harbaugh. He has show zero under pressure and seems to be unaware of his own failures. But there is still hope Cutler could beone of those after 30 late bloomers. But right now his spoiled brat attack is getting old quick and needs to change before he loses this team and cost Lovie his job, well it isn't all bad.

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