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Collins will compete with Hanie for backup spot

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Veteran quarterback Todd Collins' decision to exercise patience has paid off.

When the Bears initially contacted him about eight days ago, Collins wanted the club to show him some money, to ensure he wasn't going to be a "camp arm." With Caleb Hanie sidelined with a shoulder injury, the Bears needed another quarterback to help Jay Cutler and rookie Dan LeFevour.

Collins didn't want to head to Bourbonnais, make $1,425 a week and then get cut before the season.

He signed a one-year deal today because the Bears made him a six-figure guarantee worth about $150,000. That means, at worst, Collins gets that much for about two weeks of work. And if he makes the opening-day roster, Collins will be guaranteed his entire 2010 base salary. Here's the interesting part: the veteran minimum for Collins is $855,000. But, the Bears are going to pay him seven figures, if he makes the roster, and they'll guarantee him about $150,000 regardless.

But indications are, Collins will have a chance to make a run at the backup quarterback position, which may be what he wants most.

"I'm out there to compete," Collins said. "I'm not going to sell myself short. I've been the No. 2 guy for a long time. You always try to play at the level the starter is playing at and ideally you can step in there and contribute just like the starter did.

"That's always been my goal throughout my career. Wherever I stack up at the end, we'll see."

Hanie, by numerous accounts, was doing a fine job of learning Mike Martz's offense. But he is missing invaluable practice and game time with his shoulder injury. That's not his fault, but it's just the way it is.

With Cutler entrenched as the clear-cut, undisputed starter, Hanie needed training camp and the preseason to get his work in.

Now, with him sidelined for at least another week, Collins has a chance to make a move. And while Hanie was new to Martz's style of offense, Collins learned it under Dick Vermeil and Al Saunders in Kansas City. From 2001 to 2005, Vermeil was the Chiefs' head coach, and Saunders the offensive coordinator.

Saunders was the assistant head coach and receivers coach with the St. Louis Rams in 1999 and 2000, working alongside Martz.

"I'm familiar with the system," Collins said. "I agree with the philosophy. After hearing what coach Martz has done and talking to some of the people who worked with him, I figured it was too good of an opportunity to turn down."

Once he dusts off the cobwebs, Collins should be able to show a competence and command of Martz's offense.

How long will it take him?

"I don't think it should take too long," Collins said. "I think the core of the offense is the same. He's tweaked some stuff since I was in the offense a few years back but the basics of the offense and the philosophy is the same so I don't anticipate it will take too long."

Indications are, the Bears may lean toward keeping three quarterbacks during the season: Cutler, Collins and Hanie. The Bears are also expected to try and carry Dan LeFevour, a sixth-round pick, on the practice squad.

As for Matt Gutierrez, the Bears may give him a few more days to make an impression. But the odds are stacked against him to stick around past this weekend.

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"The Bears are also expected to try and carry Dan LeFevour, a sixth-round pick, on the practice squad." Says who? Sean Jenson? Or do you have an inside source on the intentions of the Bears management?

ahhhh....colins is a BUST loosers! in madden i have cutler starting (so dreamy) with tom brady as his backup (hes a hnuk too). it so easy to do in madden why cant the looser bears do what i do sense i am allwasy right and i only give FACTS!

is like is said the bears wil go 4-122 this year ans then my POWERS WILL GROW!!! oh teh EVIL that flo4s inside of me will vanquishj all of you so call fans like kevin BUMsted, joe f, dahli ans taht CHEERY HAPPY gO LCUKY B$RANDO!! ohhh i HAT HAT HATE TAHT BRANDO!!! but tnyis time his powers gof GOOD wil not stand up magianst my EVIL! oh no no i WILL defeet him this time!! yes yes YES!!!!! i GIVE FACTS!!! ahahahah!!!!

im crap-ton ans i approve this massage!

This was a good move on Angelo's part, Hanie has a banged up throwing shoulder and it could bother him throughout the season, and rookie Dan LeFevour is clearly not ready, I still like his long term potential. The way LeFevour has played in camp and this pre-season, I doubt anyone will grab him, he should make Chicago's practice squad. So bringing a veteran like Todd Collins in, who already has experience in the scheme Chicago is running, is probably the best fall back guy Chicago could bring in for Cutler.
Also, Collins has proved in the past he can win.

Keeping Caleb Hanie on the 53 man roster is also a good move. Hanie was doing a pretty good job running Martz's scheme for the short time he had in it, and has looked impressive the last couple pre-seasons. The injury was a let down, but now he'll get a season to learn the offense better and have a guy like Todd Collins to teach him a few things that only a veteran quarterback can, especially with his experience in this scheme. You know something weird I just thought of, Chicago has signed back to back Michigan quarterbacks? Oh well GO BEARS!!

While Creighton offers good analysis from time to time. It just wouldn't be the same without the horrific grammar, spelling, seething hatred for Jerry Angelo, and his doppelganger -- the infamous Crap-ton.

I love it :)

Now on to my comment:

The Bears signed Todd Collins because NO QUARTERBACK will finish the season behind that offensive line.

See Jay run ... for his life.


By Kevin Armstead on August 23, 2010 1:41 PM
"Also, Collins has proved in the past he can win."

What?

Muggsy, this guy has gone a whole decade without starting a game. His career stats look like the stats a starting QB would put up in a single season and he's been in the league for 15 years.

Oh no, my bad, he won a couple of games for the Redskins two or three years ago before being blasted out of the playoffs in the wild card round. Shoot, how could I ever forget that?

So hey, let's all make like Kevin and hail the proven champion that is Todd Collins! He will help us reach the ultimate goal in Dallas this proven career benchwarmer will! Thank you Kevin Armstead, I don't think I would have ever seen the light without coming upon your astute knowledge and insight. Bless you, good sir, bless you!

Hey Esteven. Crap-ton is one who thinks he has magical powers. In fact, he is a total pussycat, and that's being generous. Good always wins out over evil, Crap-ton. Take your powers to the dump. Why don't you escort him, Esteven. Creighton rules over both of you. He rides a higher horse.

By Kevin Armstead on August 23, 2010 1:41 PM
"Also, Collins has proved in the past he can win."

What?

Muggsy, this guy has gone a whole decade without starting a game. His career stats look like the stats a starting QB would put up in a single season and he's been in the league for 15 years.

Oh no, my bad, he won a couple of games for the Redskins two or three years ago before being blasted out of the playoffs in the wild card round. Shoot, how could I ever forget that?

So hey, let's all make like Kevin and hail the proven champion that is Todd Collins! He will help us reach the ultimate goal in Dallas this proven career benchwarmer will! Thank you Kevin Armstead, I don't think I would have ever seen the light without coming upon your astute knowledge and insight. Bless you, good sir, bless you!

I don't know man it's pretty dated. Yo ucan only tell the same joke over and over again so many times before it just gets old. It was kinda funny back in the day but it's alwasy the same Brando line and Cutler comment, he repeats the word facts a lot. I approve this message. It's a guy trying to milk a joke, please, please come up with something new. You must be one of those people that reads the same book over and over. At least say something different, I think everything is pretty much cut and paste at this point.

You know what I do find funny though, when I was a kid I had this def Pit Bull named Sandy. Sweetest dog most playful dog I ever had. When she was a puppy I would always baby talk to her and call her the happy go lucky puppy. So strange that you used those words. Then again Sandy always did crazy stuff to get my attention to.

So did you want something Crap-ton?

I got censored for crapping on Crap-ton, even though he has always been Crap-ton, as far as we know. So, Creighton, I will continue to read this blog for the lively contributions you and others make - a great source of pleasure for me - but I've been cut. So long.

I lived in the Bay Area during the Free Speech Movement of the early 60s so was perplexed that one of my relatively tame blogs was censored. Turns out I was wrong. I wasn't censored. Sean did not censor me. I am sorry, Sean. I was just overly rambunctious waiting for my blog to appear. They say old age is like second childhood. It is.

So let me get this straight, funny Mike (yeah right) agrees with my optimism the other day, even calling me out by name. Creighton then gets on funny Mike about how it isn't like him to agree with me. So funny Mike gets nervous, walks up and down his hall way at home and yells nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! I typed what I was really thinking and my leader Creighton caught me!!! What to do?? What to do?? Oh I know, I'll write some pathetically non funny post about how Armstead talked about the Bears new #2 being a winner completely taking what he meant by winner out of context....yeah that will be funny, I'll even say something funny like Muggsy.

Yeah Mike, your a very very creative Creighton wanna be??

Come on Sean, at least let me defend myself and print this bad boy.

Mike: I think leading an average NFC East team like the Redskins to the playoffs with 3 straight late-season wins is certainly enough to justify Kevin's comment about Collin's pedigree as a winner.

Snagging Todd was a necessary move by Jerry Angelo. He knows Cutler won't finish the season. I'll drop a hundy to the Boys and Girls Clubs of Chicago if Cutler starts every game this season.

Santa Barbara Tom: Thanks so much for "waxing nostalgic" with us. It's always nice to hear tales and musings from a pompous dinosaur who used to live in the bay area. why don't you yourself a favor--grab your walker, and hobble on down to the drug store and buy yourself a new pair of Depends--or Huggies since you feel like you're regressing back into infancy. Jesus. Try talking some football for change.

Esteven: better to regress to childhood than to stop at adolescence. Football? OK: you need a new playbook. You make fun of people who require walkers and Depends? Listen to yourself! Would anyone want to associate with that? I'm embarrassed. Grow up or regress and start over. By the way, "regress" - your choice of words, not mine - is a very outdated Freudian term and only shows that here again, you just stopped - and are a little pompous yourself, and that's being generous. As I said before, take it to the dump.

Haha! Oh man, Kevin that had to be one of the funniest posts I have ever come across! Glad to see those self-defense classes for Women are paying off for you.

"Come on Sean, at least let me defend myself and print this bad boy."

This "bad boy?" Hahahaha! No stop it! It's too much! XD

Anyway, you must be related to the fine folks in the Chiefs' front office who gave a gazillion dollars to Matt Cassell. But even they made their laughable decision after watching Cassell for a whole season. You're anointing Collins a "proven winner" when he hasn't started a game a decade before and then three years after his "magical" performance in '07. Wow, winning four games in thirteen years. Shoot, just how did the Bears get lucky enough to land this god amongst men?

Sean, thanks for letting these "edgier" posts go through. It's just one of the things that makes this site so darn fun and lively.

Barbara: What are your thoughts on Todd Collins playing for the Bears? Do you have anything to offer this blog?

Mike: You need to lay off the psychotropics. I don't think "proven winner" = "god amongst men."

:)

Esteven: why did you spell it "bay area" instead of "Bay Area"? The whole Bay Area is laughing at that one. Then, when you called me Barbara you had them rolling in the aisles. I hope you don't represent my home town, Chicago.

Kevin go read my first post to Mike. I made fun of him saying howdy, yes he was busted with that and I made joke about him agreeing with you. You want to know why? Because you guys always argue. Mike is not little me, he is Mike he makes fun of my posts all the time. Not a big deal.

As for you and him, I think your a cute couple. Hahahaha, seriously, Kevin Mike or me or anyone can agree with you on something and disagree on something else. That's just life man. Nobody has to agree with anyone on anything. I think Mike writes most of his posts becuase Mike finds them funny. You really need to stop being so serious.

Oh and he is right Kevin, "Badboy?????" It's pretty funny Kevin that that's how you think of it. I can't even stop laughing. I can't even finish your post because I can't get past that. I just keep hearing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISyPz5XRyI

And Mike seriously Howdy y'all.

Santa Barbara Tom, thats very nice of you to stick up for me, but really don't worry about these guys, I can take care of myself, I think that's pretty well known. Estevenj didn't really say anything and Crap-ton is what he is, played out. However your football insight is welcome at anytime.

Why am I acting like an adult right now?

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