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Packers GM says he didn't know if Bears wanted Burnett

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The Green Bay Packers surrendered a third- and fourth-round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles to move up and select Georgia Tech safety Morgan Burnett.

But in a press conference with reporters, Packers general manager Ted Thompson said he was not aware of the Bears' interest in Burnett.

"I didn't even know they were picking," Thompson said. "I just knew that there was a long list of names... We had these slot charts in each round and on my slot chart we were way down here and the pick was way up there and I wanted to move up there because I didn't think he would get there.

"If I was a better gambler or poker player, maybe I could have waited out, but we felt strongly that he would be a good addition to our team."

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Wait, so he had a player he liked, and did what he had to do to land him....He did the same thing last year to get Raji and then Clay Matthews in round 1, without sacrificing any picks this year.

So that is what happens when you have a GM who actually understands and knows how to value draft picks. Instead, we give up a 2 for a guy who wouldn't garner a 4 if the trade were to go down again and we didn't make our offer. Thompson continually makes the Packers younger, better, and more dangerous in the NFC, and doesn't do anything in FA. Jerry drafts a bunch of the same player, and can't understand why they don't work out.

Craig Steltz, Kevin Payne, Al Afalava, Major Wright, Todd Johnson, all basically tweeners. Not stout enough to spend all their time in the box in the NFL as a SS, but not instinctive enough in coverage to make a difference as a free.

Can they just accept that they don't know jack about talent evaluation for safeties and OL, and be done with it? Maybe Tice will help us out on the latter, but we have nothing on the former to make me feel any better

Joe just a reminder that Tice had elite players with the Vikings including Randel McDaniel one of the best guards ever and a 1st round pick. McDaniel was real good before Tice coached him. Todd Steussie 1st round pick. Jeff Christy 4th rounder pre dated Tice coaching, Korey Stringer 1st round pick. Later as head coach he would draft Bryant McKinnie 1st round. Marcus Johnson 2nd round. There where other line picks while he was their, but the point is they invested a lot in the line and he did a very good job making them an elite run blocking line. I think the the question is still out on pass protection. Either way the Bears need to invest more in the line if they want better results. Getting a washed up Orlando Pace or a career back up Omiyale is not helping. The best line they had was when the Bears Got Tait a first rounder in his prime, Brown(similar to McDaniel in many respects) a first rounder as well and put them with Olin a pro bowl center. They also got Garza. They invested in the line and it paid off. Sense then they have been trying to milk the line. One first round pick in Williams and the not much else other than trying to milk aging players. They ar ejust not good enough at drafting if they where they would not be trading away picks and signing big name free agents.

As for the Thompson BS he didn't know. He just happened to go one pick in front of Chicago a team desperate for Safety help and take the best safety on the board. Please, like they don't know what team is on the clock. They got representaives on floor right in front of the stage on the damn phones. How do you think they ne wwho to call when they wanted to make the trade.

Lets make a trade. Who's on the clock? Got me, we don't pay attention to who is on the clock. If this was the case why not make a trade with the Bears. Why pick that exact moment, why not one pick before or 2 picks after?

By the way not the first time this has happened to Angelo who is from the sit and wait school or trade down school. I do love watching teams trade down gather some picks and pop back up and get the players they really want.

Not Thompsons fault but at least he could be honest.

That was nice of the Packers GM..but come on now. Its JA people.. He had chances to jump into the 2nd round and didnt. I woulda sent Greg Olsen in a trade most ricky-tick to move up. Olsen is a tweener TE.. thats it. His blocking is terrible and he rarely comes down with the end zone jump ball pass. He can catch when not covered.. but goes down the instant he feels the defender. We have few draft picks and many glaring holes to fill. One would have thought with jobs on the line.. (JA and Lovie) that JA woulda been much more agressive moving up??? Nope!!?! Joke... this team is 7-9 ..maybe. Im a fan..but this is enough. From the DC joke hiring to letting Alex Brown leave (cough cough... releasing him)..to doing zilch in the FA market to fix the constantly broke FS spot.. now this. JA sits on his a$$ and does nothing. Again. How ownership allows this shows the depth of the problem. Plus.. the OL is still in shambles.. O-by-the-Way to RT?? LG played by???? Kreutz is a back up at this point in his career.. Garza..back up at best.. Good gawd.. JA!?!?! Done.. will not be buying sunday ticket.. no more bears jerseys.. We the fans keep this NFL machine rolling in $$$$$$.. Chicago..a huge NFL market..the team is run by idiots. I bet the lions win more games this year then we do. At least the lions have been agressive in getting players.. And when this team implodes...again.. and Tommie "mental case" Harris is punching out OL for pancaking him..and Cutler is getting his a$$ pile drived continually.. there will be Lovie.. forever staring into the abyss... mumbling... "and we will go from there"... Night all... this team has lost all credibility..

I know this is off Topic but what is going on with Jammal Brown and the Saints? They took Charles Brown in the 2nd round and already have a really good young backup LT. If Brown gets cut during Roster cuts he sure would look good in a Bears uniform. Even though Thompson will probably jump in front of the Bears offer and sign him.

Joe- Comparing Wright with the rest of the safeties JA has picked is way off the mark. He played FS his entire career, has the instincts, ball-skills, the toughness, and more importantly the range to cover the deep middle. Manning lacks instincts and awareness to be a good FS, Payne the speed and coverage skills, Steltz the athleticism, and AA the instincts. Major is better in all those traits than any of them.

Mostly right on, "1990," but ownership allowing all this to happen doesn't show any depth to the problem, it IS the problem.

Jerry "Do Nothing" Angelo is the symptom, McCaskey is the disease. Nothing really exciting will happen to this team until that updated version of the Munsters sells the team. Whoa, sorry! That was cruel. I apologize to the Munsters for the insult.

Not only was Olson trade bait but the Bears could have made a move a long time ago when they knew that they were not going to resign Brown and Ogunleye.
You could have gotten something in return for these guys when you knew that you were not going anywhere last year.
Some team with playoffs hopes would have grabbed these guys.
A package deal to get back your 2nd round pick would have been better than just letting these players go for nothing.

Jerry Angelo has dug a deep hole for the Bears and keeping him for another year has just set them back even further.
How nice it would have been to have Bill Cowher as the new head coach and a real G.M. calling the shots going into this season.

This season just feels like we know the situation is terminal and we are just waiting for the patient to die.

I don't know who writes this ?>$#@&% to rile up the fans but all you need to do is look at the angelo draft picks for the last 9 years to see that he couldn't draft himself out of a wet paper bag.

That being said...this was the analysis on nfl.com web site....

Pick Analysis: The Packers nab a ball hawk in Morgan Burnett. As an instinctive defender with outstanding range, Burnett has the ability to get over the top on deep throws. With Atari Bigby underperforming at safety, Burnett could be a surprising rookie starter in Week 1.

Note the last line. The packers are in the business to get better....just like the rest of the teams. They surely do a better job of it than the bears.
Still don't believe that....then ask yourself...
Why would any team play those cards (drafting someone so someone else doesn't get him)when there are only so many draft picks available to better your team? Draft picks are a limited resource. Only the bears and a few other lousy teams are experts at screwing up that resource year after year.

It is no coincidence that this team is at or below .500 since the Super Bowl. And 05 & 06 were anomalies. Just the result of having some good players maturing, staying healthy {besides Brown}, and executing at the same time. When you have a below average GM, and a roughly .500 coaching staff, this is what you end up with. For every good move JA makes...regardless of what circumstances brought him there, he makes at least 3-4 horrible ones. And it's not just on the field personnel that's called into question, but the positional coaching staff that he allows Lovie to put together. If Lovie can't or won't select positional coaches {especially on offense} that will best utilize the talent on the field, then take that responsibility from him.
As an example; drafting Briggs, Tillman, Williams, and Chris Harris with mid to late round picks, good move. Not drafting an OL prospect with anything higher than a 5th or 6th rounder for 4+ years, horrible move. Drafting guys year after year that are choosen 2-3 rounds from where other GM's would take that same player...horrible move. And I could go on and on about this.
As I said last week, JA just doesn't get what the draft is all about. It's not about trying to prove to the NFL world that you know more than anyone else {what I call the "Jerry Krause" disease}. It's not about "bringing in bodies." It's about making your team better. He just doesn't get it. I would rather Jerry traded all the picks in this draft and got 1 player that, by all accounts, would have made some sort of impact or difference, than to have a couple of "maybes" and then the rest "bodies" that will never make the team. If you want bodies, bring in undrafted free agents. Have a good day all.

Yo,
The scouting reports I have seen on Wright all say he is a tweener. From the Sporting News:

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a tough and aggressive safety who enjoys delivering violent hits to receivers just as the ball arrives. Has good range against the run and can chase down ballcarriers. Is a smart and instinctive; reads and reacts well to plays. Reads the quick dump-off pass to the running back well.

Weaknesses: Lacks the elite playing speed to be a standout in pass coverage; a good, but not elite, athlete. Is not always fast in run support .

Bottom line: Wright is a tough, hard nosed safety who enjoys making violent, intimidating tackles. He is not going to be chosen in the first or second round because of his average athleticism, but he should be a third- or fourth-round pick and develop into a solid starting safety in the NFL.

From NFL.com:
Wright has good size, strength and toughness for the safety position. He is an instinctive defender that fills the alley quickly versus the run. He is a good open field tackler and can be physical to deliver a big hit. Wright reads route progressions well and is solid leveraging the ball in zone coverage’s. He can be inconsistent to shed blockers and will need to improve in this phase of his game at the next level. Wright doesn’t have great speed or agility which may limit his ability to be effective in zone coverage. Wright is a good football player that wins with toughness, instincts and technique but may lack the pure athleticism to break into a starting roll at the next level.


ESPN:
What he brings: Wright has great athleticism, fluidity and brings great toughness with his game. While he is a bit tight in the hips when getting off the hash, he has an extra gear to recover once caught out of position. In addition, he has adequate ball skills to make plays when in position.
How he fits: The Bears' defense already had good, tough run-playing safeties, but needed more range and closure on the back end versus the pass. While Wright does not possess great ball skills, he will give the defense more versatility to play both run and pass. He will have a chance to earn playing time right away.

So none of them think he is a rangy, coverage oriented free safety, and he sounds just like the scouting reports on Al Afalava.

So comparing him based on previous scouting reports coupled with the ones on him, and I would say the comparisons are legit. Maybe all of them are wrong, but he was demoted into a rotation this year with a freshman, so either the freshman is a total freak, or Wright is not as good as advertised.

I did not watch Wright much in college, mostly because I hated Tebow so much, so I am going with scouting reports, but none of these say the same things as Burnett's scouting reports, who I think is a true free safety, and who we should have taken, but the Pack was smarter than us. They continually improve their roster, and we continually draft the same player over and over expecting a different result.

Morgan Burnett was rated higher by most analysts but he also was flagged as lacking intelligence. Major wright is more athletic than our other safeties other than Manning who doesn't have the instincts. The bears tend to get a good player whne they stick with major winning programs and players that have started their whole career. I think it was a good pick. The draft that JA really messed up was 07. That was the draft we needed to add youth to the o line instead we added specialists in the first three rounds. Olsen is the only guy left.

I hope Major Wright turns out to be the FS we've been missing, he comes with some degree of promise; but the move by the Packers makes us as fans wonder if Olsen and a later pick might have been packaged to improve this pick. Of course, the reliability of the Bears to use such a pick properly (or evaluate talent and needs) can always be questioned; e.g. see Chris Harris trade. Daniel Manning early 2nd round.

The reluctance to trade Olsen shows their lack of commitment to the M.Martz experiment. Not saying that Martz is the answer. Just pointing out that they make decisions without an assertive long term plan. And then fail to fully commit to those decisions. Choosing to try and avoid failure rather than achieve success. A recipe for failure. All the meantime we see other teams; e,g, Philly, SD, New England, Cleveland, Balt make bolder assertive moves, confident in their approach.

At least we can look forward to today, because JA does his best work in rounds 4-7. Which is rather comical. One would think it gets harder in later rounds, but this is probably just indicative of the 'evan a blind squirrel occasionally finds an acorn phenomena'.

Draft OL all day and hope JA finds a couple of acorns.

Closing comment; ESPN covers the draft and spends like 10 seconds on the Bears when they finally pick. Kudos for Kiper in trying to point out that this pick was the Bears first of the draft and trying to steer the conversation to a brief discussion of our team. Our management is incompetent, but their have been interesting off season moves here of late (Peppers, C.Taylor, Martz) but ESPN would rather milk the PR potential of Holmgren and J.Jones than trying to decipher the mystery of the McCaskey-Angelo-Smith plan.

Hmm, the last guy who cried after being drafted by the Bears didn't turn out so good...

Joe you forgot this.

"He only has average coverage skills, shouldn’t be relied upon to often in man, and may struggle to contain receivers over the middle or athletic tight ends. Doesn’t have the agility in space to consistently break down and wrap up. Is inconsistent with his block protection."

Mayock however did say he may be a better pro than college player. I wouldn't worry about his talent as much as the Bears ability to develop a player at his position.

4th round pick is comming up and their is not much in ways of interior line talent available. Should be defense again.

Mike Brown, was a pretty damn good free safety. The Major may have many of the traits that made Brown the leader of the defense and someone that could knock a guys head off. I like the move, although I do think it was BS that the Pack moved just in front of the Bears to pick safety They knew what the Bears were picking, Thompson is an ARS and I hope the Bears get some payback to Thompson and the PAck this year.

Donald Driver across the middle, WOW what a hit by Wright, Tillman scoops up the ball and scores.

I would love to see some of the Packer receivers get alligator arms when they play the BEARS, like the good old days.

Posted this in a related thread but ...

NFL Draft Scout: "Wright, a second or third-round option, is projected to become an NFL strong safety because he doesn't backpedal smoothly, and doesn't transition clearly out of his breaks. At Florida he generally played in deep coverage and the level of defensive talent the Gators had masked his deficiencies. That means Wright is best fitted as an in-the-box zone defender."

And the bears...still...suck! ROTFL!

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