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Dent denied again

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Richard Dent has to keep on waiting.

The former Bears defensive end was not elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Saturday evening for the eighth time. This year's class hasn't been announced yet, but Dent won't be among the inductees.

According to Hall of Fame voter Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Dent was eliminated in the cutdown from 10 to five, along with Cris Carter, Shannon Sharpe, Andre Reed and Cortez Kennedy.

Dent's old head coach certainly thinks he belongs.

"What makes any Hall of Fame football player?" Bears coach Mike Ditka said Friday night. "I think he made the game better by playing. He made our team better by winning. He made the people around him better.

"He was a force to be reckoned with every time he stepped on the field."

When he retired in 1997, Dent's 137.5 career sacks trailed only Bruce Smith (200.0) and Reggie White (198.0) among defensive ends. But the decorated Dent - he was a four-time Pro Bowl selection - was one of only six defensive players ever to be named a Super Bowl MVP.

In Super Bowl XX, Dent had three tackles, 1.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. In the NFC Divisonal playoff game against the New York Giants, Dent had seven tackles, 3.5 sacks and two forced fumbles.

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I cant believe it. Dent is one of the best to play the DE position. What is up with this selection group?

Hahaha so called it. I said this was a loaded class and that Dents chances would be slim to none. Dont worry buddy there always next year. And the years after that and the year after that.

Kevin tel lyourself your not going to cry.

Richard Dent has become the "Ron Santo" of the Bears. Three teammates of each of their best teams went into the HOF, but, their other teams didn't win enough to warrant more HOF votes for each of them.

To be honest I think Dent took too many plays off and way too many times just took a big, wide loop toward the QB and basically took himself out of the play. To say that Dent made the others around him better is not the way I see it. The scheme was set up to free up Dent which means the others did the dirty work so he could shine. I think the others made Dent better. Still, he was tall, quick and made some big plays. He just dogged it too much. I think that's what the problem is with getting into the Hall. A certain HOFer would have been more consistent. Remember whenever John Madden would praise Dent he would always say "When he's on, he's one of the best". He knew that he was "not on" quite often.

Absolutely ridiculous. Rickey Jackson and John Randle over Richard Dent. I can't wrap my brain around it. As good as those guys were, they didn't have the impact Dent did.

Unbelievable.

Not that he didn't get in. That Rickey Jackson was elected over him.

Dent was arguably the most dominate player on one of the most dominate defenses in the NFL. His stats are equal to Jacksons, if not superior when you look at the success of the team.

Also not put in? Chris Carter and Tim Brown.

Jackson's election is all about politics. The Saints have become a Disney story. People keep pushing the idea that their success is great, because it "shows" New Orleans is alive again, and gives people hope after Katrina.

(Which is absurd. Benson -- like many carpetbaggers down there -- only stayed to capitalize off of Katrina sentiment, people still not back in their homes, and crime is still rampant).

Had there been no Katrina, and no Saints success this year, Jackson doesn't get in.

Another example that the Hall is an absolute joke.


By Creighton on February 5, 2010 3:33 PM
Well you know these guys are going in first ballot.
Tim Brown
Emmit Smith
Jerry Rice

Um, what happened to that Tim Brown prediction? Notice you left that out of your "I called it" rant.

I thought you were always right?

By Creighton on February 5, 2010 3:33 PM
Well you know these guys are going in first ballot.
Tim Brown
Emmit Smith
Jerry Rice

Um, what happened to that Tim Brown prediction? Notice you left that out of your "I called it" rant.

I thought you were always right.

Wow Idc I actually didn't say just that about Tim Brown did I?

Actually this is what I wrote.

By Creighton on February 5, 2010 3:33 PM
Well you know these guys are going in first ballot.
Tim Brown
Emmit Smith
Jerry Rice
Shannon Sharpe will probably get in, he's the number one all time recieving TE.

"Its a really tough call for Dent because it is such a loaded class. I think either he or John Randle will get in. I would also think Dermontti Dawson is getting considerable consideration. Cris Carter is trying to sell himself but with Brown and Rice already locks, He may go in ahead of Brown his TD totals are insane. I can't see 4 recievers going in at once though, my guess is either Brown goes or Carter goes. Rice will be carried in on their shoulders."

Dent has more Takles than Randle, but Dent was an end. The are tied in Sacks. Both should go in But Randle was a better Under Tackle than Sapp and Sapp is already in. Still Dents numbers are better as a whole. But Randle was a 6 time all pro, Dent only only once was named an all pro.

If Sharpe somehow doesn't get in then both Dent and Randle should be locks.


So as you see I said their is a chance Brown doesn't go in and thought Carter might get in. But also pointed out that their where a lot of recievers. I also talked about Jon Randle getting in. I also never say I am always right, I say I am write most of the time. I never said Sharpe was lock, or Dent, or Randle, Tim Brown was a surprise, but again I can't imagine putting in a ton of recievers at once. You will notice I mentioned Brown not getting in. Grimm is also a surprise they all deserve to go, but I thought DD would go before him not a big deal. Remember one thing this isn't football, this is voting. Its like asking someone to predict all the pro bowlers. Not that I was even making predictions, I just talking about the class and the article. Which is pretty clear sense I talk about 4 or 5 different senarios.

Thanks for trying to twist a comment I made because I made you look like a Chump with the Martz, Marinelli hires. Get over it, you had to be blind not to see that comming.

I love it when loosers try to take one comment out of a paragraph or two and then twist to make a lame argument. Yeah cut out all justification for an argument and just take it as a partial statement.

"Ha you said Brown was going to get in" But you also said he might not but I won't include that."

Thats so desperate and pathetic.

I notice you left out the part were I said Brown may not and Sharpe may not and Dent and Randle could get in if he doesn't. Wasn't really making any predictions, was just talking about the class and how packed it was and how tough it would be to get in this year. But oh no, you had to go and try to change what I said cause you can't handle being wrong about a totally different topic. Basically you tried to lie about what I said, to make me look bad in a really lame way so you could feel better about your own stupidity. Which tells me what kind of person you are.

You do realize that most of those rants are not even written by me, but by someone who has been on this board as long as I have and has on a regular basis as you well know tried to be me and pretended to be me. Or did you suddenly forget about it. Just like that second post up there isn't me. Sorry if I busy today Idc but I can't always post a rant when you want one. I do notice one thing. Your reading everything I write. Sense you hate me so much that is really just sad. Whats wrong? Can't control yourself. What kind of idiot reads all the posts written by someone he hates because they make him mad? Get a shrink dude, I am not here to hold your hand or make you feel better about a team you are totally insecure about. You want to feel better talk to Brando, he will shake his head up and down and tell you how great everything is with the Bears. Go ahead he needs a friend, nobody else likes him, for a good reason, you two should be buddies he would love it. Plus sense he posts under like 10 different names as Biggs once pointed out, it will be like you have 10 new buddies. Perfect.

Plus just stop reading what I write sense you hate it so much. But really trying to create a debate about a partial quote of mine on hall voting. Thats so sad you don't even know. Would you like me to flip a coin so we can debate heads or tails? At least that way you have a 50/50 chance. Which is much better than the normal odds.

BBB, what in the hell are you talking about? Dent finished 6th all time on the career sacks list. Biased much?

This makes no sense, Ive never even heard of Rickey Jackson and Im sorry, did he make the Saints that much better that they actually accomplished anything in the 80's??? Richard must of upset some voters or something because this is a joke!!!!!

I was actually going to post this the other day, but just the same,

I feel that a DE does have to take plays off, so he can make the major impact play like 3rd and 10 on their 20 yard line, they have to pass to get a TD, and the DE HAS to get to that QB on that one play, but if he has used all his specialty moves running full steam on ever play he wont have the juice or that one specialty move he has saved for this one play. Dang, I know its the NFL but some mind combat comes into play as well, you have to make your opponent think that you are not up to par so when its the right time, you smack the QB for a loss, and save the game. These DE know when to take that play off to rest/save moves/save mental will of wits, and the great ones know how to use those `live' plays alot more often.


So, WHAT? The man was a SUPER BOWL MVP! Along with all he did. And it doesnt even matter if they used him or not (I disagree but anyways)He beat his OWN man, thats the point. A great DE wins that one on one situation, whether or not it is `made for him'

and that leads right into ,
why do none of our DE win that one on one battle?? That is exactly why we have to sign a great DE, We dont have the time or the draft skill or the development skill so we need to sign a free agent DE that can win the one on one tackle situation. We havent had that for a long time now. No wonder the DT cant play well, (notice I switched that, from DT makes the DE) You can say the same about a DE. A great one on one DE helps the DT as well.

Didnt we all want a DE for the past 2 years??? Remember our posts? And some of you said the ones we have are fine? How has that worked out?
And just like we all wanted Oline help alot sooner, we are still waiting on both positions to be filled.
So you are saying that Richard Dent wouldnt get r done on this team? I feel he would.

By BBB on February 6, 2010 7:09 PM
"To be honest I think Dent took too many plays off and way too many times just took a big, wide loop toward the QB and basically took himself out of the play. To say that Dent made the others around him better is not the way I see it. The scheme was set up to free up Dent which means the others did the dirty work so he could shine. I think the others made Dent better. Still, he was tall, quick and made some big plays. He just dogged it too much. I think that's what the problem is with getting into the Hall. A certain HOFer would have been more consistent. Remember whenever John Madden would praise Dent he would always say "When he's on, he's one of the best". He knew that he was "not on" quite often."

Then, BBB, by your rationale, Randy Moss and Terrell Owens will never be hall of famers - two of the greatest WRs ever are well-known to dog plays left and right, especially when they know the ball's not headed their way. Likewise, any player on a team that "schemed" to free said player up to make plays should then not be in the Hall of Fame, either.

Facts are: Richard Dent retired behind only Reggie White and Bruce Smith on the all-time sacks list. He is #2 all-time in sacks per start, behind only Fred Dryer. 4 time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl MVP, one of the most dominant pass rushers to ever play the game. Yes, he took plays off. But that cannot, and should not, detract from the stats that say he most definitely should be in the Hall of Fame.

Creighton,

If you believed, in your "non-prediction," that their was a chance that Brown may not get into the Hall, why would you, in your first two references, suggest that you "know" he was going to get in, and that he was "a lock."

It's a contradiction. It makes no sense.

What else doesn't make sense? Dent is a prediction you "called," but Brown was really just a statement

Seems as if you are trying to have it both ways. Had he gotten in -- "I called it." If he didn't, "I really did suggest that he wasn't going to get in, and it wasn't a prediction.

Tortured logic.

To Collin: I'm not biased at all. But thanks for showing everyone what a scumbag you are. The scheme was to free up Dent so he could get to the QB. The other DL and the 46 def were to cause so much confusion and pressure that Dent couldn't be double-teamed very often allowing him easier access to the QB. They did that because he was the quickest DL and was tall and had a long reach. That's why so many sacks. People that know the truth also know he was pretty lazy at times. That is not overlooked when the HOF votes are cast.

To Bryan: Your analogy is totally bogus because I never said he wouldn't get in ever or said he shouldn't get in. Stats are not the only thing being evaluated. Have you ever heard of leadership, character, sportsmanship, teamwork, consistency, dependability to name a few? Have you ever heard this: lies, damn lies, and statistics? Does you mommy know you use the computer?

Dent got jobbed, he deserves the hall of fame. I hope the voters wise up some day and recognize Dent's greatness and finally elect him.

Dent certainly was one of the top 10 defensive ends of alltime.

Just to be clear... I do think Dent should and will get in.

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