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Gaines Adams will arrive from Tampa this morning to take his physical, and then it could be back on a plane for him to head to Atlanta with the Bears. The team is scheduled to leave Halas Hall before 2 p.m. The team will have to make a roster move before then in order to clear a spot for Adams on the 53-man roster. I speculated here about some players who could potentially be released to make room for Adams.

His comments about the trade, his new team, working with Rod Marinelli and more are in the main story here.

Now, let's take a spin around the Internet and see what they are saying about the second big trade in two weeks in the NFL. Cleveland dealing wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the New York Jets got things started last week.

Kevin Seifert at ESPN.com writes about the transformation of general manager Jerry Angelo, who barring a trade will go without first- and second-round picks for the second straight draft. Angelo traded out of the second round this past April. It used to be Angelo's draft picks were next to untouchable.

Pat Yasinskas, also at ESPN.com, reports that Stylez G. White is likely to take over for Adams in the starting lineup for the Buccaneers. if that name doesn't sound familiar, it should. He was with the Bears in training camp in 2005. That is when he was the pass rusher known as Greg White.

Stephen Holder of the St. Petersburg Times reports that first-year Bucs general manager Mark Dominik said Thursday, "When we're not getting consistent play out of an area, we've been making changes. And that could continue." Talk about foreshadowing. The trade gives Tampa four picks in the first three rounds of he 2010 draft.

At FoxSports.com, Jay Glazer chimes in on the deal in a video and says, "I think it is a great move for the Chicago Bears'' citing the fact that he will work with defensive line coach Rod Marinelli.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated called it a good move for the Bucs on his Twitter account: "Good trade for Bucs. Getting mid- to late-2 in very strong draft for unproductive rusher Adams (13.5 sacks, 36 games) good for bad team."

Chris Mortensen of ESPN sees upside for both parties on his Twitter account: "Very interesting, Gaines Adams trade from Bucs to Bears for 2nd rder. With Rod Marinelli coaching him in Chicago, could pay off 4 Chicago. Bears fans will ask, "what about a receiver?" With iffy Bears secondary, putting heat on opposing QB may be more vital to playoff hopes. I think it's good deal for Bucs for an underachiever but, trust me, good bet that Gaines Adams will be marked improvement under Marinelli. I wouldn't say Peter & I have opposing views. I say it's a good deal for Bucs in light of Adams underachieving in Tampa. Adams strengthens their rotation & I'll bet he does have some impact if Bears are in the post-Thanksgiving playoff run, as I expect."

Mike Florio at ProFootballTalk.com reports that the trade of Adams chews up a whopping $15 million in cap space this season the Bucs, who have been pinching pennies under the Glazer family watch.

And, in case you are wondering, here are the base salaries for Adams, who is signed through 2012:

2009 $900,000
2010 $1.08 million
2011 $1.1 million
2012 $1.15 million

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I followed Gaines's career at Clemson on a week-to-week basis. He was a holy terror. He can/will be the same for the Bears with Marinelli's coaching. Go Bears!

That is a great bargain if he can even manage to get to the level of Alex or Wale, where he gets 6-8 sacks a year, with the potential to get to 10. The Bucs eat the whole signing bonus, and the Bears only have to pay $900k-$1.15M for a top 5 draft pick who is only in his 3rd season for the next 3 years.

I am contiually surprised at how solid of a rep Marinelli still has around the league, even with the Detroit debacle. Normally, the media would pound a guy for being a crappy head coach, and he would need a couple of seasons to re-establish himself as a credible anything. Norv Turner took a big hit from the press before re-establishing himself in multiple stops as a coordinator, to get another chance in SD, where he is about to get fired again. Marinelli is getting a mulligan because of Millen I think, and considering how bad Detroit has been, they aren't blaming him, which is a good thing.

The players consistently talk about details with Marinelli, and when you watch them play this year, it is night and day from last year (except Tommie Harris, who looks like he is sissy slap-fighting with the lineman who is handling him). Every step is calculated, every hand placement precise, and it is getting to the point where it is automatic, and they are speeding up. We are going to get better, stronger, and faster as the season wears on, as these guys will still be getting faster, and the O-linemen they face will be getting slower. We should be able to terrorize Favre in November.

If this pans out like we hope it can, Jerry will have delivered 2 dynamic players entering their prime in the same 12 month period. We haven't done that ever in my lifetime. We do have some guys that have value on this roster that may not make the cut, so he could conceivably get a pick or two later in the draft out of them, and his wheel house has been 3rd to 5th round anyway. We could go all offensive line for the 2010 draft now, with free safety and running back picks thrown in there for good measure.

So who in the league takes advantage of this new "Let's Make A Deal" Jerry Angelo and makes a call?

-Cleveland needs help all over the roster.
-Buffalo is Jerry's second favorite trading partner to the Tampa Bears farm system
-Al Davis is always good for a laugh, so maybe Bowman is attractive to him because of the size/speed measurables
-San Diego has been a good trading partner in the past, and they are struggling on defense. They just signed Ian Scott off the street, and picked up Alfonso Boone if that tells you anything...
-Kansas City is looking to upgrade its roster a lot


Guys that might have some value:
Vasher
Bowman
Graham
Toeaina

Dez Clark
Michael Gaines

Scary that as bad as our secondary looks, our CBs are the most valuable position group we have

Joe:

You may be onto something with the Bears still moving to trade before the deadline on Tuesday.

Maybe they move one D lineman and Graham (safety or nickel type) to Denver for Marshall. Lets face the facts, Marshall most likely will be gone from Denver next year as a free agent, unless they tag him. Denver has some talent behind Marshall but must get something for Marshall who is the next T.O. type of talent, although not as caustic or cancerous as Terrell Owens.

Their new D coordinator has done a good job so far, keeping Denver in games. Maybe just maybe they call JA to work the deal.

Could you imagine Cutler and Marshall on the same field again, Bennett in the slot, Hester on one side and Marshall on the other with Knox alternating between the two positions to give them a breather and Olson dominating as a pass catching tight end. WOW!!
Holy Cow!!

The offense would be close to unstoppable and the defense would still be good and maybe great if they get Gaines Adams to the level where he dominates at the end postion.

Adams, Gaines
Status: Active Substatus: Active
Primary Position: DE Free-Agency Status: Veteran
Draft Year: 2007 NFL Start Year: 2007
Draft Round: 1
Draft Position: 4

Contract, Signed 07/28/2007
Team Name: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Disposition: Current
Average Per Year: $3,339,167.00 Signing Bonus: $13,049,000.00
3-year APY: $5,568,333.00 OATSB: $0.00
4-year APY: $4,446,250.00 Option Bonus: $1,000.00
5-year APY: $3,777,000.00 Second Option Bonus: $0.00
Free-Agency Status: Drafted Rookie Minimum Salary Benefit: No
Agent Name: Smith, Fletcher N
Option Year: 2012 First Voidable Year: 2012
Option Exercise Year: 2008
Comment: Signbon earned after option; prorated 08-12

Contract Year 2007, Cap Number $2,385,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $285,000.00 $285,000.00
Base Guaranteed $285,000.00 $0.00
Roster Bonus $2,100,000.00 $2,100,000.00 8/2
Total NLTBEs $1,225,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, rookie honors, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs

Contract Year 2008, Cap Number $2,980,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $370,000.00 $370,000.00 $2.98125m guaranteed prior to option
Base Guaranteed $370,000.00 $0.00 after option; injury only
Signing Bonus Prorat $2,609,800.00 $2,609,800.00 earned with exercised of option; prorated 08-12
Total NLTBEs $1,050,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs
Option Bonus Prorat $200.00 $200.00

Contract Year 2009, Cap Number $3,510,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $900,000.00 $900,000.00 $3.5775m guaranteed prior to option
Base Guaranteed $900,000.00 $0.00 after option; injury only
Signing Bonus Prorat $2,609,800.00 $2,609,800.00 earned with exercised of option; prorated 08-12
Total NLTBEs $800,000.00 $0.00 one-time NLTBE w/ min p/t
Total NLTBEs $1,050,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs
Option Bonus Prorat $200.00 $200.00
Comment: Up to $1.145m escalator

Contract Year 2010, Cap Number $3,690,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $1,080,000.00 $1,080,000.00 $4.17375m guaranteed prior to option
Base Guaranteed $1,080,000.00 $0.00 after option; injury only
Signing Bonus Prorat $2,609,800.00 $2,609,800.00 earned with exercised of option; prorated 08-12
Total NLTBEs $800,000.00 $0.00 one-time NLTBE w/ min p/t; void if earned in 09
Total NLTBEs $1,050,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs
Option Bonus Prorat $200.00 $200.00
Comment: Up to $1.7175m escalator

Contract Year 2011, Cap Number $3,710,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $1,100,000.00 $1,100,000.00 $4.77m w/ $3.1175m guaranteed prior to option; if club does not exercise option and one-time NLTBE earned the guarantee reduces to $2.3175m
Base Guaranteed $800,000.00 $0.00 after option; injury only
Signing Bonus Prorat $2,609,800.00 $2,609,800.00 earned with exercised of option; prorated 08-12
Total NLTBEs $1,050,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs
Option Bonus Prorat $200.00 $200.00
Comment: Up to $2.29m escalator

Contract Year 2012, Cap Number $3,760,000.00
Term Type Contract Value Cap Value Comment
Base Salary $1,150,000.00 $1,150,000.00
Signing Bonus Prorat $2,609,800.00 $2,609,800.00 earned with exercised of option; prorated 08-12
Total NLTBEs $1,050,000.00 $0.00 Pro Bowl, sacks, sacks + p/t, sacks + honors, sacks + playoffs
Option Bonus Prorat $200.00 $200.00
Comment: Voidable; club may buyback with $3m-$10m signbon; up to $2.8625m escalator

Joe Felicelli wrote:
"So who in the league takes advantage of this new "Let's Make A Deal" Jerry Angelo and makes a call? ...

Buffalo is Jerry's second favorite trading partner to the Tampa Bears farm system"

Joe,

You have had numerous worthwhile comments on this site. But I know of no trades with Buffalo. Which trades are you referring to?

Sorry Dahli but they are not trading for Marshall, I want him on the team too, but this move is designed for when the inconsistant Goon is gone next year. Some think Goon is having a good year but his sacks have come against two of the worst lines in football. He still disappears in games.

The only thing kepping Adams from being good is Adams. This is a actually a good Rod M project, the guy has talent but is lazy and stupid. I still have a problem seeing him at LDE next year, he really is a RDE. Its a smart move by Angelo, all it can do is help this year and it fills in a major need next year. This also fits the type of line Rod M wants. I excpect to see the Bears look for an undersized DT like a Chris Hovan or Brad Culpepper. Rod M has never been a fan of run stuffers like Adams or McFarland. I excpect to see this line get addressed further, till it fits the Tampa 2 mold.

If he turns into the player he should be then basically you would be looking at a poor mans version of the 2002-2003 Bucs line in 2010 for the Bears. In fact this team is starting to resemble that team in a lot of ways even the y way the built it.

QG
Brad Johnson FA, Jay Cutler T, Bucs couldn't find a QB forever.
LT Roman Oben FA, Orlando Pace FA, Couldn't find a LT so signed a vet
LG Kerry Jenkins FA, Frank Omiyale FA, niether guy was or is any good.
C Jeff Christy FA,, Olin Kreutz Hatley, Pro Bowl Centers
RG Cosey Coleman, Roberto Garza FA, Decent guards.
RT Kenyatta Walker, Chris Williams, 14th overall pick, both of them, both drafted to be starting LT's, both end up playing RT.
TE Ken Dilger, Greg Olsen, a pair of 6'5, 250 pound recieving TE's
WR They had much better recievers
RB Michael Pittman, Matt Forte, very similar players.

LDE Greg Spires, Alex Brown, both are solid ends but not great pass rushers.
LDT Buger McFarland, Anthony Adams, brothers from another mother.
RDT Warren Sapp, Tommie Harris, Harris should have been the next Sapp but injuries are injuries.
LDE Simeon Rice, Gains Adams, if Adams gets it together he would be a poor mans rice, he will never be as lean or big as rice.
WIL Derrick Brooks, Lance Briggs, clones
DB, Lynch, Tillman they played at different spots but they play so much alike.
K Martin Gramatica, Robbie Gould, highly accurate kickers that lacked top end range.
P Tom Tupa, Brad Maynard, top talent punters.

They are missing some pieces but they are very similar in terms of type of players and even the way the players where gotten. Lots of FA and T and few draft picks.

Kevin,
Several draft day moves with the Bills over the last 3-4 years. I think we have swapped draft picks with them 3 different times, and I think they pick up every player we drop.

Don't know the specific count off the top of my head, but I think we moved with them to get Tommie Harris, and the year we drafted Hester, we let them move up to draft someone in the late 1st round.

Creighton Wrote:

"WIL Derrick Brooks, Lance Briggs, clones"


Both are terrific players, but...I have a very hard time seeing them as the same type of player. Briggs is terrific at making tackles behind the line of scrimmage and is a better run-stopping LB. Briggs can hold his own in coverage, but Brooks in his heyday was as much an interception machine as a linebacker could be. He also played with more speed than I'm used to seeing Briggs dispaly.


Adams, like Cutler, is a young football player who is a proven commodity. In Adams' case, he's been proven mediocre to this point in his career. I'm fine trading the draft pick to get him, for no matter how bad Gaines Adams might be in Chicago, it's better than Angelo blowing the pick on another Dan Bazuin.

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