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Rookie minicamp observations: Iglesias stands out

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It's difficult to tell much from rookie minicamp.

The Bears had nine draft picks running around with nine undrafted free agents and 25 tryout players. General manager Jerry Angelo said after the draft that it was realistic for six draft picks to make the 53-man roster but that all nine had the qualities and attributes that made them a real possibility.

If an undrafted free agent makes the roster, it probably won't be more than one. So of the 43 players hustling through drills for the first time as part of a professional football team, maybe seven will be there come September. Here are a few observations:

*** Wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias looks the part. He has good size and catches the ball well with his hands. But if skill position players don't stand out in 7-on-7 drills and drills vs. air, well, then you have a real problem on your hands.

*** Cornerback D.J. Moore broke on the ball well and was praised by coach Lovie Smith afterward.

*** Wide receiver Johnny Knox showed all the speed and quickness that was advertised.

*** Defensive linemen Jarron Gilbert and Henry Melton ... well, tough to tell anything about linemen until the pads go on.

*** Fullback Will Ta'ufo'ou might not be quite the 253 pounds he's advertised to be.

*** Missouri's Chase Patton probably displayed the strongest arm of the three quarterbacks.

*** Northwestern wide receiver Eric Peterman, an undrafted free agent, looked like he has a chance to compete.

*** Guard Lance Louis does not look like a tight end at 303 pounds. He's an athletic guard, not an oversized tight end, so he's just right wearing No. 60.

"I don't know if they are going to experiement later,'' Louis said about the grand tight end announcement that was made by the team on Sunday when he was selected in the seventh round. "I'm just here if they need me. Whatever they ask me to do, I am doing it.''

OK. We'll bite. What are they asking you to do?

"Pretty much just O-line,'' he said. "So that's what I am doing.''

Louis will focus at guard although he was at left tackle for one short-handed line that didn't have a right tackle.

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Brad you said no more than one UFA would likely find room on the roster. That's good stuff.

I know they must end up with no more than 53, but these kids fight numbers way before then don't they? Can you tell us how the numbers game shakes out for existing veterans and rookies going into training camp?

Cornerback D.J. Moore might prove to be the steal of this years draft class. Moore has elite ball skills, and probably fell to the Bears in the fourth because of his size 5-9. Because of his coverage skills, some scouts had him projected to go in the first. In todays NFL, you can never have enough corners that can play the ball.

Juaquin Iglesias should develop a lot faster than the last receiver the Bears got out of Oklahoma Mark Bradley. Iglesias has played at receiver a lot more than Bradley did coming out of college, and has led Oklahoma in receiving the last two seasons. He should prove to be a nice addition to the Bears receiving core.

Speaking of receivers, and possible draft day steals, how about 7th rounder Derek Kinder of Pitt. Kinder has nice size at 6-1 210lbs, and as a junior back in 2006 was named first team All-Big East and chosen as a Biletnikoff semifinalist. A torn ACL in 07 derailed his college career for a season, but he came back in 2008. Most torn ACL's take about 2 seasons to fully heal, this will be year two for Kinder, he could surprise. Had he stayed healthy, he might of turned out to be a day one player draft wise, we'll see.

End Credits: Before one of the crybaby pessimist come on here and go on about how none of these rookies have done anything in the NFL yet.....balh blah blah and nobody has the right to get excited about any of them [how dare you]......blah blah blah, I say, calm down. Give me a break, its the off-season. If your on this site during the month of may, why crybaby? I realize most of these guys probably won't contribute as rookies, but its still fun to watch them come into the NFL and develop. Some of these rookies could contribute early like DT Jarron Gilbert and corner D.J. Moore, give em time GO BEARS!!

*** Wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias looks the part. He has good size and catches the ball well with his hands. But if skill position players don't stand out in 7-on-7 drills and drills vs. air, well, then you have a real problem on your hands.

*** Cornerback D.J. Moore broke on the ball well and was praised by coach Lovie Smith afterward.
*** Wide receiver Johnny Knox showed all the speed and quickness that was advertised.

*** Defensive linemen Jarron Gilbert and Henry Melton ... well, tough to tell anything about linemen until the pads go on.

*** Fullback Will Ta'ufo'ou might not be quite the 253 pounds he's advertised to be.

*** Missouri's Chase Patton probably displayed the strongest arm of the three quarterbacks.

*** Northwestern wide receiver Eric Peterman, an undrafted free agent, looked like he has a chance to compete.

*** Guard Lance Louis does not look like a tight end at 303 pounds. He's an athletic guard, not an oversized tight end, so he's just right wearing No. 60.

mm hmmm.....yess...ok....ok....

wel feelas after looking thru teh list of players i have com to teh conclusin tah THEY ARE ALL BUSTS!!!! those worthles LOOSERS MAKE ME SICK!!!!! i am too times teh athlete they are ans i am FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS ANS CANT LEAVE MY BED!!!! ans let me just tell you kevin BUMstead...that NONE of these rookies have done anything in the NFL yet.....balh blah blah....and nobody has the right to get excited about any of them....blah blah blah!!!!

but you gays now me old crap-ton just truing to be posative...

ps boo hoo hoo!! that BRANDO is so mean to me. he allways picks on me ans makes fun of me. :( (somone play a violin!!) im going to tel my mommy on you brando...

I may be unduly optimistic, but this year's Bear team strikes me as a total winner. All the pieces seem to be in place for a solid Super Bowl run. I certainly am not a talent analyst, but top to bottom, rookie picks included, this Bear team looks great to me. May my happy thoughts prove totally "prophetic" rather than "pathetic."

If I remember correctly, it was Matt Forte who stood out at the rookie camp last year. Could be a good omen for Iglesias.

The draft was a good one hands down and the players will be good players for years to come. This is not just thinking positively but thinking logically. I said the same thing about Forte even when people were doubting him and look at the player he became. Look out for Iglesias and Gilbert this year they are going to be great.

Crap-ton

Maybe Creighton forgot how to spell her name and can't reply.

Hey Crap-ton
Your intelligence matches your grammar. Not much to add huh.
Have a nice day. Go BEAR!!!

Hey Crap-a-ton
Your intelligence matches your grammar. You don't seem to know anything at all, but at least you have an obvious way of showing it. Have a nice day.
Go BEARS!!!

"It's difficult to tell much from rookie minicamp."

See, Brad, you lost me right from the first sentence. If you were Mel Kiper, you could tell me from a minicamp performance a player's favorite rap band, what his facebook page looks like, his final GPA, how many cheerleaders he schtooped in college -- gee Brad, maybe you're not any good at this!

Crap-ton are you even a bears fan?

i think you guys forgot that the bears need a true free saftey, you know a ball hawk. they let chris clemons getaway. in the cover two you need a very good free safety. if we don't get a very good pass rush it will show our real weakness. remember we blitzed more than any other team in football. for some reason the bears think a strong safety is a free safety. you can't have a in the box player try to have the range of a free safety. we still had a good draft when you consider we didn't draft till the second day. maybe one of the corners can be converted to free safety.

If wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias looks the part then the Bears may have a real issue. I have read NFL Draft reports that state that Iglesias is NOT NFL starter material. This may not bode well for the Bears this season - unless they reach out for an NFL proven wide receiver starter.

Anonymous

I don't think anybody's forgotten the need for a free safety, including the Bears. There just weren't a lot of FS out there, either in the draft or free agency. And after trading for Cutler, the Bears didn't have many options for trading during the draft. The Bears needed upgrades at QB, D-line, O-line, FS, and WR at the end of the season. They addressed four out of five of those. The reality is they'll just have to make due this year at FS, but I agree that they should start experimenting with their corners.

"Guard Lance Louis does not look like a tight end at 303 pounds. He's an athletic guard, not an oversized tight end, so he's just right wearing No. 60."

He's apparently bigger than Beekman and perhaps Garza. Certainly more athletic - but not the in mode of "bigger" interior o-line that the team is now seeking. Any chance he is groomed as Kruetz's replacement while playing in the goal line O as a TE?

Brad,

What are your thoughts about Derek Pegues?

I think this will prove to be a good draft. Iglesias might start but likely not (Bennet). Moore will at least contribute in the secondary. Knox might only catch 15-20 passes but if so three or four will be touchdowns. Gilbert and Melton will rotate in and out and that means a fresh front line. The race for the Norris crown won't be settled until the last game of the season. The Bears have done will to improve their depth.

Haha, Crap-ton..that's hilarious...and a ton of crap! LOLz

In the 'Perfect World' I would have liked to see a nice solid veteran safety and tall wide receiver fall into our laps, but the top three picks seem to have all the tools. Considering the locations of our picks, we have to be truly blessed. I saw PLENTY of Oklahoma this year. I have been truly enamored of Bradford from day one. What a beautiful touch for a kid so young. With this came the opportunity to watch Iglesias, and knowing we had no reach at the top two, I was hoping we might pick this kid up. He's just a winner and a player. NFL Draft report will be wrong on that one. Actually, Cutler is going to make all our receivers that much better, so I see improvement no matter who's there. DJ not only has the tools, but he's smart. That speaks volumes at his position. Gilbert will be the biggest impact, even if he sees little playing time. Lighting the fire under a certain underachieving blabbermouth may be just what we need.

I don't know what you're talking about. Iglesias came from a pro style offense and despite all the talent on the team he was still the go to guy and had incredible stats. He has excellent hands, he's a great route runner, and has amazing work ethic. The only knock is that he doesn't have elite speed but is still quick. Even by watching his interviews you can tell that he is a humble guy who is always striving to get better. I don't know what you read but Iglesias is NFL ready. Iglesias will do well. When the season starts you will say I was right like I was with Matt Forte.

Let's not forget that the Bears did happen to address a need for a safety in Afalava. There were better available, but obviously we didn't have a pick until well into the second day and there were more pressing needs. However, for as late as we got him, Al is actually quite talented and I wouldn't be surprised if he made the team and got to contribute this year. Overall, I was amazed at how Angelo managed to make this a productive draft despite his lack of options...adding to that the acquisition of Cutler and I'm ready to give that man kudos for the first time in awhile. Lastly...Crap-Ton...you are delirious and depressingly ingnorant. Go Bears!!

And another thing...by the end of next year Iglesias will be producing numbers similar to Steve Breaston and Steve Smith (Giants not Panthers) at LEAST! Watch it happen.....

I still think as much as Lovie denys it Tillman is still the best choice to move to safety: [1] has the size and knowledge, [2] is a playmaker, [3] could be coach type on the field. Moore makes this possible I have absolutely no confidence in Steltz as a free safety or really at strong either actually another blown draft choice. Pegues could be replacement. Lovie probably to hard-headed to say he's wrong.

Deputy:

Totally agree that tillman would be the best free safety, he would be a star at that position. He seems to have lost a little off of his speed at corner last year, maybe with the personal situation with his daughter he just lost some concentration. Regardless he would be a star and a turnover creating machine at free safety.

Remember that the Bears now have four quality CB's, so what makes sense is for Graham or Tillman to move back to free safety, either would be great. Bowman has a history of injury which may be a concern.

As for Inglesias, I really believe he is going to be very good as a possession receiver. I know he does not have the speed desired but as said prior he runs great routes is tall and has good hands; he will be open if for no other reason than he has Hester the speed burner getting double covered on many instances therefore Inglesias will be open.

Maybe this is the year for the Bears to win it all, the D retooled, a real QB, running game and o line and enough WR's to make a difference.

Go BEARS!!!!!!!

Kevin A chill out all of us are fans just like you and like to do the same things discuss our team, yes I said our as a collective and what you see as pessimistic is only opinionated pros and cons which make for exchange and discussion. If you don't like it you don't have to participate but we do have the right to do it. So let the opinions flow yea and nay, for and against and in America everyone has the right to say what they want as long as it isn't a violation of the constitution. So get a grip and enjoy the banter of your fellow posters. all together now GO BEARS.

I have always though that Tillman would make a good Safety.
He is big enough and is great at stripping the ball when he has to come up to play the run.

I was ranting a bit on draft day but I have calmed down and see some good picks in this draft.
Gilbert, Iglesias, Moore and Freeman were good picks who should have been taken before they were drafted.
I hope that Knox is a sleeper.
I still think that the Melton pick was wasted and they should have gotten an Offensive Lineman, Safety or another WR there but oh well.

They still have done nothing to address the O line and they are not getting any younger. How long before Kreutz is done?
Not long judging by the way he has played over the last two seasons.

why not put urlacher back @ his original safety position that would save some wear and tear on his back and also move tillman to safety and go with more 2 wide outs and 2 tight end sets that should open the field for forte and eliminate hester being double teamed so much

I heard as well from a ton of scouting reports on nfl .com that Iglesias is NOT nfl material.Also i dont see how you guys can be so optamistic when the bears have a horrible coaching staff other than spec teams and the /head coach who should be def coord.The bears need a proven WR a godd free saftey,a good RG,and a good DT and a good weakside LB to go to and win Superbowl.DONT GET TOO EXCITED YET!

mike in ft wayne:

If scouting reports were always correct then Tom Brady would not be having a hall of fame career right now. Devin Hester would have been a first round pick. Adewale Ogunleye was not even drafted because of these expert scouting reports. He has had a really good career and played at a high level for a good portion of it. The draft is a crap shoot, and there really is no such thing as a expert when it comes to predicting how a player will play in his career. What was Ryan Leaf's scouting report like. If I'm not mistaken he was considered a better QB than Peyton Manning. How correct was that?

Brad has a good point. Most of these try-out players won't end up getting a contract offer. I do believe that (8) to (10) will however and continue to work out with the team and get a shot at making the team during training camp/pre-season games.

The Bears have to fill out that 80-man roster and most of the 80-man roster will consist of vetearans, draftess and the very undrafted free agents/tryout players we are reading about this weekend. It's good stuff to read, sure most of these guy's won't make it or contribute right away but it is nice to here who stands out, shows some skill and has a shot to compete.

I think Angelo is right, (6) from this draft class will make the active roster ie.... Gilbert, Melton, Iglesias, Knox, Freeman and Moore. A handful more certianly will have a shot at the 53-man or at the very least land on the practice squad ie... Afavla, Louis, Kinder. Will Ta'ufo'ou, Eric Peterman, Dahna Deleston, Woodny Turenne, Maurice Covington, Byron Glaspy, Derek Pegues, Anthony Reddick and Tyrell Fenroy all have enough talent to surprise and some of these guy's could unseat a few veteran's along the way or fill out the practice squad this year....

Go Bears !!

Okay look, this is for all who THINK they know what they are talking about. You all think that the Bears have a wide reciever problem? You couldn't be more wrong, the problem was not that Devin Hester or Earl Bennet do not have what it takes, it is that Kyle Orton wasn't doing as good as what we needed him to be. Don't get me wrong, I am also a Purdue football fan and loved Kyle when he was with them. But any pass over 20 yards and his accuracy went down the tubes! Hester had many deep wide open oppurtunities and he aalways had to come back to catch the ball. You will all see the difference when Cutler steps up to the plate. He played with Bennett in Vanderbilt and those 2 together were incredible together! The problem was not the WR, it was the QB. Watch and see as this team rolls into the playoffs, and quite possibly the Super Bowl!!! DA BEARS!!!!!!!!!!

Where does this crap about Iglesias' speed come from? He has similar speed as Boldin and Fitzgerald when they came out of college. I think they are doing fairly well.
Johnny Knox is rated a top 5 small school pick from an article in Sporting News.
Kinder had many awards b4 his injury and he has had the necessary time to heal. Could, realistically, be a contributor sooner than most believe.
It looks like the Bears are in good hands, for once, with depth at the WR position. I agree with the assessment that Cutler will make the receivers we have look so much more than what we saw last year, and, I believe that we will see a strong rotation of WR's. This is going to give Ron Turner the chance to, again, and not since he had Eric Kramer, show that he does have a good offensive mind and ability to run a prolific offense. Will see the 4 wides set.
One more thing. The Bears coaching staff has had a large turnover, so get off of that pedestal. It does take the players doing their job, and the players that blew our chance to have an 11-5 season last year, now have new coaches and new players behind them, so, less mistakes this year in critical situations, albeit, there will b fewer of them because of Cutler's presence, means, 11-5 this year.

GO BEARS

Kyle was pretty good at QB, but yes, Cutler is in a different realm, I mean was he a Pro Bowler just bc the Bronco's were that great? I think not, He has it all, scramble ability, throw on the run. the long TD strike, did I mention throw accurate on the run?
Yes, optimism is sky high, and I like our team with Cutler as he will make our WR better but no one knows what we will be or what these rooks will do, alot of posters are saying that just bc Fort was great that means we will get another Forte this year, well how many Fortes actually show up on teams every year after the draft? I remember 4-5 realistic Rookies of the year candidates, thats worse than lottery odds there so I would not bet the farm on another Forte this year guys.
Lets hope we get a starter out of this draft and a player that contributes off the bench as well. Everyone said it takes a WR a couple years to produce so I expect on of the vets to be one of our WR out of preseason.
Does anyone expect Gilbert to take away Harris or Harrison job? How about Eglesias starting every game? Melton may contribute as well, but it would be nice to see these guys just contribute often, never mind about another Forte again, thats a bit much to ask for 2 years in a row.
Remember it took Bennet the entire year just to see the field - Williams as well, so lets not get too excited bc they shined at camp.

Now, I see Gilbert,Melton, Moore and Eglesias as contributors but realistically 2 of them wont see the field for a year just like last years picks, but I have not seen a single 7th rd pick stick with the team yet, I would like for Louis to stick but thinking it might happen is a bit of a reach, I remember quite a few people were high on our 7's last year (me included)
And the main bad apple on the Coaching staff is still with us so I am not sure about that Coach turnover ratio, we added Rod and demoted Babich - but Babich is still with us and that is a negative.
You know I like our WR but anyone has to be crazy to think we don't really need a good veteran to go with Hester, as Bennet is still a rook and Eglesias has not seen the field, Cutler will make our WR better but cmon.
I am not as negative as it sounds as I like our team but I am trying to be realistic about rooks coming in and taking us to the SB.

Romero I beg to differ Oklahoma runs over 75% spread and you would have seen that if you had watched the Florida game. Please don't be so snooty and discuss or prove your opinion. Some of your other points I agree with but keep the I told you so's to your self.

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