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Live from Halas Hall: Angelo talks about trade down

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General manager Jerry Angelo discussed the trade down today.

"The key to drafting is filing your needs. Unfortunately, the players we targeted at 49 did not fall to us and we weren't in a position that we were able to move up. We just didn't have enough to be an attractive candidate. Rather than put a square peg in a round hole ... we really looked at this part of the draft hard. Forty-nine we had to get a little luck.

"I had Bobby [DePaul] call around to see if we could move down. We were able to facilitate a trade that I feel is good for us. We feel we can still get some good football players.

"We were looking at a receiver, a defensive player as well. We were looking at Robiskie and there were a couple other receivers just not Robiskie. We didn't want to manufacture a player. It didn't fall the way we wanted it to fall. We just didn't get luck at 49. That's not to say we won't have a good draft [Sunday]. It's not like we missed gold. There were no guarantees."

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I don't understand why he didn't take Massaquoi! What's the deal?!?

Whatever. I felt there were lots of goot players available at this slot, far more than we desrved, due to apocalyptically bad drafting by a lot of teams (Browns, Raiders and Bills spring to mind). Michael Johnson was still available. Why not get him as a new toy for Rod Marinelli? Will Moore was a decent safety prospect. Loadholt and Unger were available and could have solidifed the future of the O-line. Christ allmighty, Protect the QB is probably hanging himself right now. Duke Robinson was available too.

We feel we can still get some good football players.

That inspires confidence...NOT.

So let me get this straight:

"Unfortunately, the players we targeted at 49 did not fall to us " Jerry Angelo

So I guess William Moore and Mohammed Massoquoi must have been figments of the media's imagination.

Funny how both guys, along with Loadholt, were both picked in the next 6 picks.

I call B.S.

Sherrod Martin was available too. I guess all the rtime effort and money that went into private workouts with Massaquoi, Martin, Loadholt etc was a complete waste. My guess is that they were so busy fumbling a trade for Anquan Boldin they hadn't watched the draft board to see who was still available. THis draft has been wierd as hell, loads of trading, with a few teams seeming to know what they're doing, and a bunch of teams reaching left right and centre for poor value at their picks.

I think Angelo must have convinced himself that there weren't any players of need available at that pick that would negate his love of stockpiling later picks.

I don't really get it.

arent bears fans tired of project players...we went that route with d manning...a corner who COULD play FS...

i dont want a SS that COULD play FS...or a CB who COULD play FS...i want a damn if that means we wait til day 2 to get good value instead of getting our al davis on and reaching a WHOLE ROUND for a rather just wait...

im not sure what kind of impact the the 7th or 8th best WR is going to give you over the 9th or 10th?

in case no one noticed Mohammed Massoquoi was picked before the bears traded their pick, pretty sure thats the reason they didn't draft him.

17(49)Seahawks (From Bears) Unger, Max OT 6'5" 309 Oregon

18(50)Browns (From Buccaneers)Massaquoi, Mohamed WR 6'2" 210 Georgia

Phil, I'm not really good at math but I would have to say that Mohammed was picked after the Bears trade. Along with William Moore, Loadholt etc. etc......

No Phil, he was taken the pick after the bears traded to seattle at number 50, the browns took him.

No, phil. Massaquoi was picked one pick later by Cleveland. Bears could have had him.

No Phil, Massoquoi was taken after the Bears made the trade. If the Bears still get Iglesias, I won't scream too much. I really wasn't that impressed with Massoquoi and Iglesias, I think, fits at least as well into what the Bears are looking for at WR. It would be strange the the next WR ended up at 68.

Raiders pick Mike Mitchell in the 2nd round #47, two picks before the BEARS, I was watching draft with a Raiders fan who did not even know who he was, same for the guys on espn....Man we covered a lot of players on this blog, he might have went high, but at least the BEARS looked at him, we have extra picks to go after some of the others we've talked about there are still some left, I think we get our first pick at 75 then go to 99.....Barden, Clemons, Ogletree and Johnson are still on the board, still some players left. We needed to get a starter at 49, once Hood was gone along with Robiske, Nicks, Britt, Mitchell and McBath I guess JA said there's still some value on the board let's get a extra pick or two and see what we can pick up later....this now guarantees that the phone will ring for a veteran wR, maybe Harrison for the possession guy????.....

Massaquoi than the guy the idiot Raiders took at #7. The Bears will regret not taking him!

I'm going to say the same thing here that I said elsewhere: Calm down, people. There are still good prospects available for our picking. In fact, one of the most highly touted receiver prospects, Juaquin Iglesias, wasn't picked up yet. Our first Third Round pick is at 68, and he may still be available.

Furthermore, Angelo is pretty good when it comes to getting talent in the mid to later Rounds, and the offense is already very different from last year's. The O-line has improved substantially, and for the first time in decades, we have a proven stud QB. I'll repeat that: For the first time in decades, we have a proven STUD QB! A better offense can stay on the field longer, and thus keep the defense off the field longer. And with an improved O-line, we can expect Forte (and perhaps Kevin Jones, who has now completely healed from his surgery,) to be even better. And Cutler has been reunited with a friend from Vandy in Earl Bennett. He helped Earl out in college, and even threw to Earl at his Pro Day. You cannot teach chemistry, and these two have it. Expect big things from Earl this year.

Angelo may not have made the sexy moves, but he got more picks, and there are still intriguing people available. So once again, chill.

Phil, You need to get a job with bears management via the Peter principle

So Massaquoi was a smokescreen, and the Bears did not view him as a player worthy of the 49 pick. We all said a lot of the same things leading up to the draft. They brought all of these guys in to work them out, but that does not mean that all of them were worth the first pick we had....I think they do not see the difference between them and the guys we can get at 68 and 99 as big enough to warrant reaching for them. If we get Ogletree in the 3rd plus a D-lineman, Clemons (Or Kevin Barnes from Maryland) and Corvey Irvin in the 4th, it will be a wildly successful trade down for JA. We now have 6 picks in the next 3 rounds....We can do a lot of good, especially considering how many talented players are dropping like DC-10s out of the sky... dating myself with that reference, but to see Michael Johnson still on the board at the start of the 3rd round is promising to say the least.

First we make the worst trade in the HISTORY of the Bears by overpaying for marginal improvement at QB, and now this. Somebody stick a fork in our Bears . . . they're done.

This year is one that will be talked about for generations to come . . . how the Bears set the organization back 10 years by WAY OVERPAYING for a QB, then getting fleeced by Seattle. How sad the last couple of weeks have been for our beloved Bears. Lest anyone forget, in a draft Mike Mayock called better than this year's, we have no 1st round pick in 2010 either.

Instead of focusing on our OL, and getting some receivers who can catch consistently, we trade the present and the future for a QB who hasn't had a winning season since high school, an extra 5th round pick (Cutler deal) and an extra 4th round pick (today's insanity).

Just a thought...let's see who the Bears end up getting with the two picks they acquired. If they end up with two solid players, Rashad Johnson and Jason Meredith for example, then the trade down might end up as a decent option.

Honestly, it would be premature even to judge this trade at the end of Sunday, but to start laying blame on Saturday night doesn't make any sense.

JPCZ - the worst move in Bears history was starting Orton last year and expecting him to be better than what he is - a back up QB. With the run on WRs and DEs, I am not surprised by the trade down. Although, I have to agree that we did not get much in return for dropping down 19 spots to 68. Hopefully we can pick up a WR, FS, DE, and LB tomorrow. I'm not counting on it, though.

People yhe Bears did not gain two picks. They gained 1 pick, you see when you trade a pick away you lose that pick, ok.

JPCZ why do you post here your an Orton fanbay go Post on the Denver boards, and talk about that 2nd team homo to your hearts content, the guy sucks.

Tom I agree it was a weak trade by Angelo. The Steelers got better value for there 64th pick than we got for our 49th. 4th round picks do not have much value.

There were some nice players on the board and the Bears dropped the ball a bit, not to bad, but Unger, Martin, Loadholt, Moore, Beatty, Smith, and Marks all could have helped the Bears and most were really good value picks.

One thing to worry about. The Rams pick before the Bears and they need a WR and they like Iglesias.

The Bears will probably look at Brooks Foster in the 5th or Ogletree in the 4th.

We could see a DT, DE, FS, OT. This is classic DT territory for the Bears, maybe Alex Magee or Chris Baker. Or maybe Lang, Johnson in round three.

Still the farther you go down in the draft the harder it is to find starters. Angelo did not help himself with that trade.

Some of the players the Bears could get at the 68th pick are ones people thought would have been worthy of the 49th pick (Iglesias, Rashad Johnson, Michael Johnson, etc.) so I think this is a good move because we will be able to acquire more picks (better chance of getting a player who is successful) and still get a player that would have been worthy of the 49th pick.

Tom and JPCZ,
Some perspective on "worst move in Bears history:"
- Stan Thomas.
- Alonzo Spellman.
- John Theirry.
- Rick Mirer traded to Bears for 1st round pick,
- Our triplets: Curtis Enis, Cade McNown, David Terrell.
- Henry Burris gets a start.
- Jonathan Quinn: primary backup QB
- John Shoop.
So please.

Chill out guys. Wait till we see who we pick before you cry in your beer. There are still good receivers out there (eg, Williams-Penn State, Iglesias-OK, )and good DBs (eg Rashad Johnson). JA does do well in mid-rounds.


Why the all the hate, man? For the record, I haven't missed many Bears games since the late 70's. So, I suffered through my share of bad QB play. That said, Orton is a decent QB who would have been better for us with a decent OL and receivers that didn't keep dropping the ball. Of course, it looks like the receivers were merely taking a cue from management.

Consider: Denver started this whole thing by chasing after Matt Cassel who ended up going to the Chiefs for a 2nd round pick; no starting NFL QB; no sacrifice of next year's draft; a 2nd rounder, PERIOD. We paid way too much. We put all our eggs in one basket and have not yet improved the offense from last year.

I agree that it was a bit premature to rant last night as we may yet get some players, but I'm not very confident.

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