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Highlights from the post-draft Jerry Angelo press conference

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Here are some highlights:

Angelo said he was surprised Johnny Knox was still around in the fourth round.

He likes Derek Kinder from Pitt. The coaching staff really liked him and he got a strong endorsement from Dave Wannstedt.

Defensively, they wanted to get some young talent. It was one of the goals of the draft to get more energy. Angelo believes Jarron Gibert and Henry Melton are two very good defensive ends.

Melton made 12 visits and that is why the Bears grabbed him in the fourth round. They like his traits but he needs to take another step.

Potentially we have found three starters given how they feel about Gilbert, Juaquin iglesias and Angelo believes they can find another one.

At safety, Angelo calls is a tough spot. It's hard to find a guy who has real good ball skills and can handle the physical nature of the play. Angelo said the team was going to take a pure free safety and he came off the board before he got to them. Angelo wants to err on the side of playing the run first.

Marcus Freeman was tagged to go in the third round and Angelo called that a deal in the fifth round.

Angelo said six have a chance to make the roster realistically, but he feels all nine have a chance to make it. He called it a "very good" second day draft.

Lance Louis came to San Diego State as a tight end. Grew into a lineman position in school. Interesting thing about this, he said he never saw a guy that big, 303 pounds, run such a fast 40. Tight ends coach Rob Boras looked at him. Worked him at fullback too. Liked his versatility and said "why not" in the second round.

Angelo said they checked out DUI's on Afalava and Melton and they felt good about their backgrounds.

D.J. Moore, they really liked him. Felt very good about value with him as he played 10 or 20 plays a game on offense and played corner and was a returner. "I haven't seen a corner with this kind of ball skills since [Nathan] Vasher." Angelo says he plays tall with exceptional leaping ability. "You see a lot of tall corners who play small. He's a short corner who can play tall. When we were down in Tampa Ronde Barber was like that."

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Anyone see what happened to Chris Clemons, thought the BEARS were looking at him and that he could possibly play FS......Some of the names on the draft board we took are solid, but I still wonder if we have some defensive players who can step right in and play. Gilbert has the size to play a solid DE, but I heard they were thinking of moving him inside, Freeman has intangibles, I like him as a lte pick on the d-side of the ball.

Jerry was surprised Johnny Knox was still around in the fourth round while everyone else was surprised that he drafted in the fourth round. Was there a single team in the league who was wetting their pants over this guy?


Jerry believes Jarron Gibert and Henry Melton are two very good defensive ends but did not believe that the higher rated and more productive ones still on the board were.

The OG that they want to convert to TE was also worked out at FB.
Good thing they traded for Cutler or he might have been the Bears next QB.

They make a stand on Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson and now turn a blind eye to Afalava and Melton both having DUIs. Must be because they have world class talent and the good far outweighs the bad right?
Right?
Let us give a warm welcome to the next Adam Archuleta.

D.J. Moore played corner and was a kick returner. Does that mean that he is now your # 2 WR?
Jerry says "I haven't seen a corner with this kind of ball skills since Nathan Vasher." So who exactly did you draft him to replace?
Let me guess.... Nate Vasher?

He then tops the whole thing off with a reference to Tampa Bay because neither he or Lovie can let that go even though neither one of them actually won anything in Tampa.

Ok Brad I thought you said the Bears were putting Gilbert at UT, now you say he is an end. Which is it?

I love the idea of Gilbert playing DE, goodbye Goon. He would add some nice size to a small line. However I am not a big fan of him at UT because at best he would be in a 3 man rotation with Harris, and Harrison. So he wouldn't be a starter and would not see the field that much.

Iglesias, I picked him going ot the bears go check it out. He is a WCO type reciever but he is not a Split end which is what they needed. He will probably end up in the slot but would be better at flanker. If they were looking for size at WR this is not the guy, he is 190 pounds and 6 feet tall.

Moore, is a great pick, he will be a Corner but big recievers will tear him up, he is not going to help much with the run. Would be an awsome Nickle at very least.

Melton, I really don't like this pick, not because I think he is a bad player. But what is it with Texas guys and DUI's? The other reason I don't like it is because I want Gilbert to be the next end. If Gilbert goes to DT and Melton plays end our line just got smaller, WTF. Plus Lang was on the board and would have brought more value and finally we would have a guy to replace Garza and help in short yardage situations.

Freeman, he has talent but he plays soft. I am torn on this pick because Zack Follet was there and I think he will be the better pro.

Knox, I like him as a kick returner special team guy, but thats about it.

Everything else is blah. It could be a good draft but that all depends on what they do with the guys they drafted and were they place them. Last I heard we are converting a guard to TE. Not really a fan of that move.

Trevor Canfield is a FA I would like to see the Bears go and get him, so is Phillip Hunt.

Chi Clemons went to Miami in the 5th round at pick 165, the Bears liked Freeman better and Knox better.

Brad,,,,Imagine a world where Jerry doesn't jump the shark for a fat faced bigger version of Rex on the verge of a diabetic coma,,,,and he gets Boldin and Holt....keeps this years first round pick....and gets Oher

the bears will battle detroit because they should

and Denver is partying on our dime by week 10

I cannot wait until Cutler and Franchise aren't used in the same sentence again....well, I can wait as long as I know it's gonna take

sorry, got a little emotional up there

6-10....and that's right...all they got is 6

I dunno. I love our first round pick, and the kid from Oklahoma might turn out to be a rookie sensation at wr, but really, I've got to take the wait and see on this one, especially since I said I wouldn't criticize JA until next January (and then only if we don't reach the playoffs). So, let's ask the NFL to start the season in two weeks because I can't wait to see how this is all put together! Go Bears!

Not sure if an endorsement from Wanny is something that I would put on my list of references if I were a player....But the fact remains that Kinder, prior to his injury, was making a solid mark on the Big East. He should be able to make the team, as Iglesias and Knox should as well. We can say goodbye to Broussard, Davis, and Aromashodu. We will go to work with Bennett, Hester, Rideau, Iglesias, Knowx, and Kinder. Nothing to write home about, but not as bad as deserves mocking any more either. At least we have some new talent to bring to the position.

Gilbert is only capable of being a DT in this system, and he is a decent fit in his style to what a nose tackle does in our system, but he has the size and strength to be ideally suited as a 5 technique. He has much more value to a 3-4 team than to us.

Afalava was a wasted pick in my opinion. We had a lot of opportunity to take a real free safety, and chose to go elsewhere with the picks in each case. I would have rather seen OL or DL depth instead of another SS in the 6th round.

Jerry got very good value out of the picks he made, but I struggle to see where these guys are going to help us outside of Gilbert and the wideouts. The rest are special teamers and not much else. melton will probably end up eating a roster spot all year long because we won't want to lose a 4th round pick off our practice squad to another team, but there is no reason to have him active on game day until he learns how to play defense, unless we let him play special teams on coverage because he is athletic...Lance Louis could be a decent 3rd TE, but I would rather keep Kellen Davis, who has prototype size, over a guy who is 6'2, 300 lbs...

Given what we had to work with, Jerry did ok, and we won't know how well it turns out for a few years, but like every year, I see players who were still on the board when we picked, and wonder why we passed on them to take the "projects" we take in a lot of these mid-round picks. It would be one thing if they ever panned out, but they rarely do. Our coaching staff cannot develop anyone, let alone make one of these guys into a top talent. It leaves me with more questions than answers at the end of every draft Jerry has presided over. We got Cutler, which pretty well makes this offseason a success, but the draft is where you build winners, and we always seem to end up with a bunch of regular guys....

@ Hitman. Go watch games Jay Cutler has played and see if he reminds you of Grossman at all. High numbers of interceptions are common for young QBs, that should not count as one of your reasons. 63% completion percentage, over 7 yards per attempt, over 80 QB rating, these are all things that Grossman didn't accomplish.

As for Boldin, when Arizona said it would entertain a 2nd rounder for Boldin, they probably didn't count the #49 pick as proper compensation. Would have cost a 2nd and additional add-ons.

Boldin + Holt + Orton? WTH are you on...sounds only a bit better than Chad Johnson + Houshmandzedah + Ryan Fitzpatrick in Cincy from last season to me.

It's true that the Bears aren't getting good value for Cutler so long as he doesn't have a #1 to throw to, but it's the COMPLETE opposite scenario if the Bears went out and got Holt at $7 mil a year and Boldin for a lot more than that, only to have Orton throwing them the ball.

What is it with all of this negativity? I have been a Bears fan all of my life, and I've never seen anything like this. We get Cutler, Bears fans complain that we gave up too much. We get a cornerback in the 4th, who could have gone in the first, and people complain that he's too small. We trade our 2nd round pick, to pick up a DT who could have gone early in the second and a DE who weighs 280 lbs and runs a 4.6 40, and still get the same guy we would have picked in the 2nd, and guess what.... People complain. I for one am very pleased with the way this draft has progressed. I'm thrilled with the way this offseason has gone as a whole.

We have added the following potential difference makers:

Jay Cutler
Orlando Pace
Josh Bullocks
Glen Earl
Jarron Gilbert
Marcus Freeman
Juaqin Inglesias
D.J. Moore


Who did we lose?

Kyle Orton
Rex Grossman
John Tait
John St. Clair

Sounds like a pretty good offseason to me. Stop being so negative and try to enjoy what is one of the most exciting off season's in years.

The Bears really had a great draft. Everyone they picked has really high ceilings and could develop into great players. The defense just got alot younger and faster yet, and the WRs they took have great potential to go with Cutler. Really good draft.....

@ Philtration

The next Adam Archuleta? Maybe you're right, which would actually be GOOD value on a special teamer for a 6th round pick! 6TH ROUND PICK. Go find out how many 6th rounders start per team, I guarantee there aren't that many.

Hester had 600 yards receiving. It's not great, it's not what you want of a starter, he's not a #1 overall. All that being said, he clearly can be somewhat effective at WR, otherwise more random ass speed guys would've been able to do this at some point too (Dante Hall never put up 600 yards receiving).

Wow, a 7th round compensation selection, one of the last 12 picks of the draft, and you find it suitable to criticize the selection? Really? So the guy they drafted at best is the #3 tight end who can block, something the Bears could use. Just what the heck is your expectation of pick # 246?!?

Melton's background vs Benson's background, I'll give you that. The only way I can defend the move is that the Bears are willing to grant him a chance to be a professional on and off the field. Drafting a 4th round rookie who had a DUI is different than signing a 10-year vet who also had a DUI. Absolutely pointless to pull Tank Johnson into this comparison, that guy was a walking weapons cache.

Angelo didn't draft a 5th round CB with the expectation of drafting a replacement. Drafting for competition, sure. Plus, you seem to interpret ball skills as being more important than it really is. knowledge of the game, size, strength, ability to lock a receiver up, knowing how to go with a guy in the middle of the field, tackling, drop-back agility, run recognition...these are all things Moore hasn't earned a comparison to a starting NFL CB.

Nobody was wetting themselves about Knox. The same way nobody was wetting themselves about ANY PLAYER THAT FELL SO FAR AS THE 4TH ROUND. They're left in the 4th round because there's a weakness in their game. Knox's is size, hands, route running and perhaps any other number of things. Angelo's probably excited because Knox is faster than Bennett, Iglesias and perhaps even Rashied Davis, and gives them options outside of Hester downfield. Such a big is made about speed, Angelo expressed excitment that a speed receiver "slipped", according to his predraft board


Finally, Tony Dungy built the core of the team that won the superbowl, Gruden improves the passing attack enough to put them over the top, but remember how many touchdowns that defense alone put it? Fine, they won nothing in Tampa, but they built one of the most tenacious defenses in recent memory, built on finesse and quickness and not just brute strength.


Most draft picks don't pan out, only about 2/3 ever make a team roster. that's true with ANY team. Geez, I don't understand all this insane anal probing some Bears fans are doing of this draft.

Go Packers!!

14-2...rodgers wins superbowl MVP.

Thank you "RJW" & "What is it with all this negativity".

I can't believe all the complaining. JA went out and got a FRANCHISE QB in his PRIME! He then trades down and picks up extra picks gambling that if he takes some risks the numbers will work to his favor. He picks players that were very highly rated at the points they were taken. All the players have good qualities and only time will tell what kind of desire they have.

As Bear fans we should be dancing for joy. The Bears are ready now to make a run for the division and in the playoffs who knows.

Ignore Hitman he is one of the homos from the Orton army a group of about 7 people. You can tell he knows nothing about football just by what he said. He is just mad that he will not get to see his loving Neckbeard on the weekends anymore.

What is it with all this negativity???!!!

Dude shut up. You know nothing about Melton, and you list Glenn Earl and Josh Bullocks as pluses. Pace and Cutler are awsome picks but Pace probably will start one maybe 2 years and you need another OT. Gilbert is a 5 tech and does not really fit the system, he is not a NT people, he will be used in rotation with Harris. Freeman may be a wasted pick or he may be good.

No one is really complaining were just talking about the draft.

Hey Brad you keep listing Vasher as a success. If he is such a success why did they just draft a guy to replace him in Moore?

We won't know anything until pre-season, and probably won't know much for at least a year. Right now it looks OK to me.

Gilbert and Melton are obviously blank slates for Marinelli to develop. We get to see if he's worth the hype I guess. According to Brad they've had their eye on Iglesias and he looks like a good value. They called that compensatory pick a 3, but it was essentially 4th round.

I don't get Afalava. It's possible they looked and just couldn't find a safety worth drafting. It's a tough sell to see him at FS though.

The bottom of the draft guys have all got some intriging qualities, we'll see. The Louis kid could help in short yardage, which they really need.

I did the math on that Casserly formula that Brad published. The one that gives the percentage odd of finding starters by round drafted. According to that the Bears would do well to eventually develop 2 starters from this draft. Do that and add a francise QB and it's a decent draft.

I'm sorry, but I see this as a VERYsuccessful "draft". LETS FACE IT Jay Cutler WAs our "dearft" for rounds 1 and 2,. I would say we already HAD a "good draft". Inglesias? I liked him all along- He was the "go ro" reciever for the Hiesman QB. gILBERT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PASS RUSHER, AND MELTON WAS HIGH ON A LOT OF BIARDS. I think they got good value , considering yesterday their FIRST pick was 49! I think Angelo did a good job this year , I don't think it is an "if", but just HOW GOOD after Mekton-how rhe players betong him pan out. He got a few good men fior the DL, one of the top recievers with "good hands", and I think a Cb who will ay worst, be a good nickel back.ANYTHING decenr betond say the first 3-4 picks is a BONUS because the "prize bull" of the Draft WAS CUTLER. Somehow this is getting lost on some peopke. It was NOT lost on Chris Mortenson =when askes who had the best draft on ESPN-he replied "the Bears, by getting Jay Cutler". I agree.

Arlen....

So Lovie is trying to recreate one of the most tenacious defenses ever seen in his Tampa-2, lets get the old gang back together plan?
How is that working out so far?

The more he sticks with this system and the more former Tampa/St. Louis guys he brings in the worse the defense gets.
Where has the Bears defense ranked in the NFL over the last two seasons?

By the way... Lovie Smith was just the linebackers coach with Tampa from 1996-2000.
Not the Head Coach, not the Defensive Coordinator.... he was basically the Bob Babich of that team and now he is teamed up with the real Bob Babich here.
The more he tries to make this Tampa Bay part II the worse it gets.

There is a video on youtube of this kid they drafted, Gilbert, leaping out of a pool and up onto the deck. Concrete deck, too. Impressive even for a small guy, let alone somebody his size.

Let's not forget we won't know how good or bad this draft was for a few years. That said, I like the picks. The way I see this draft is this: Jerry Angelo did a LOT of gambling. What else could he do, really, without a first round pick? He tried to get Anquan Boldin with our 2nd Rounder; Arizona wasn't biting. He wanted Robiskie or that safety the Raiders beat him to 2 picks before Jerry could grab him. His only choice at that point was to trade out and get more picks so he could do his gambling. The more picks, the better the chance of striking paydirt.

You see, listening to and watching Jerry Angelo over the years, I've come to believe that Jerry understands and accepts the fact that drafting ANY player is a gamble. Every team has its hits and its misses. New England and Indianapolis have a lot more hits than others, but those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Every pick Jerry made today was a gamble, with Iglesias being the safest. Gilbert is a freak athlete whom we are counting on Marinelli to discipline into a pass rush force. Melton is a speed rusher whom we are hoping can have a Mark Anderson-type rookie year. Let's hope he isn't a Dan Bazuin, right? Iglesias will be a decent player with Cutler throwing to him. D.J. Moore is a gamble he can become a shut down cover 2 corner. He may develop into a starter. Jerry gambled that Afalava can play free safety. He runs in the 4.4s so maybe he can. He also can be an enforcer out there. Jerry also gambled on Freeman, with a higher value than where he was drafted. Johnny Knox and Derek Kinder are speed guys. Kinder reminds me of Hines Ward, and before his knee injury, he might have been a 1st round pick. He could be our next Bernard Berrian and Jerry is gambling that he will be. It's the same with the 300-pound tight end who ran a 4.6 40. These are ALL gambles. He's gonna miss on some, but he might hit on a few, too.

At the very least, Jerry Angelo just created competition at a lot of key positions, and hopefully lit a fire under the arses of some guys who needed it. Nate Vasher, Desmond Clark, Nick Roach, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Rashied Davis, Adewale Ogunleye, Mark Anderson, Kellen Davis, Craig Steltz, Trumaine McBride, Tommy Harris, Danieal Manning...these guts should all be feeling the heat in July in Bourbonnais.

I'm sorry I do not see this as a successful draft for JA as some of you do. I like the pick up of Gilbert alot, we are lucky he fell as far as he did and he can fill two needs for us being that he can play tackle and end. The Inglesias pick I have to say I felt he would be the Bears choice all along and I do like him alot, BUT either he or Bennett from last years draft is a wasted pick because both guys play very similarly, and at that time of the draft we could have picked up a taller receiver with 4.4 speed and believe me I can name two players that fit the bill. Yes your going to say that we got Knox but he is just a combine sensation, what did he do on the field at Aberline and against what type of talent, apparently not much. Now I hope he pans out now that he is a Bear. And then we take a linebacker to backup the backups, and at round 5, I too then in that case would have liked to see Follett drafted from Cal rather than Freeman (Good call Creighton). We got 2 quality picks out of this draft but we still did not fill our needs at receiver or free safety, the 2 areas of need on this team. For the most part all wasted picks except for Gilbert and Moore. I as many of you had been looking forward to this draft and to find out my team did not have much of a plan I find hard to take. Well there is still free agency. Maybe now it would be smart to sign Ken Lucas and convert him to free safety.

I'm sorry I do not see this as a successful draft for JA as some of you do. I like the pick up of Gilbert alot, we are lucky he fell as far as he did and he can fill two needs for us being that he can play tackle and end. The Inglesias pick I have to say I felt he would be the Bears choice all along and I do like him alot, BUT either he or Bennett from last years draft is a wasted pick because both guys play very similarly, and at that time of the draft we could have picked up a taller receiver with 4.4 speed and believe me I can name two players that fit the bill. Yes your going to say that we got Knox but he is just a combine sensation, what did he do on the field at Aberline and against what type of talent, apparently not much. Now I hope he pans out now that he is a Bear. And then we take a linebacker to backup the backups, and at round 5, I too then in that case would have liked to see Follett drafted from Cal rather than Freeman (Good call Creighton). We got 2 quality picks out of this draft but we still did not fill our needs at receiver or free safety, the 2 areas of need on this team. For the most part all wasted picks except for Gilbert and Moore. I as many of you had been looking forward to this draft and to find out my team did not have much of a plan I find hard to take. Well there is still free agency. Maybe now it would be smart to sign Ken Lucas and convert him to free safety.

Creighton - Dude.. Shut up. The more you say, the more ignorant you sound. Nobody said that Gilbert was a NT. There isn't a NT in the cover 2 defense. He will be on rotation with Harris, and that's not a bad thing. Fits this system well. Have you watched any film on him? Did you see the senior bowl practices? This guy is lightinig quick, strong, with great explosion. Perfect for a 1 gap penetrating scheme.

Glen Earl and Josh Bullocks are absolutely potential difference makers. Bullocks was a 2nd round pick. He started strong, and had some issues last year. As it stands, there is no true free safety on the roster, and this is a guy that could fit that bill. He fits in Chicago's scheme much better than he did in New Orleans.

What exactly do you know about Melton? It seems like the only thing that you could point out about him is that he's had a DUI. Wow... Impressive. You must have spent hours doing that research. You also said that he makes the line smaller. 6'3 280 lbs at DE, and he makes the line smaller? Really? How do you figure?

Here's what I know about him:

He came to Texas as a scholarship player at a premium position - RB. He was good enough that they wanted him on the field as a true freshman. He was switched to DE his Junior year. With limited experience his senior season, he racked up 25+ tackles 10+ tackles for a loss, 4 sacks, and 17 hurries. Sounds pretty good for someone just learning a position doesn't he? I'm not saying this guy is the second coming of Reggie White, but I am saying that with Rod Marinelli coaching him up, he has the potential to be a dangerous player a couple of years from now.

I'm sure you probably already knew that, with you being the 2nd coming of Bill Walsh and all.

P.S. - Trevor Canfield was picked up with one of the last picks of the 7th rd. Again, I'm sure you already knew that. You just wanted to see if the rest of us did.

@ Philtration

I can't argue that the last two seasons haven't been successful.

I can tell you that nearly every starter the Bears are going into this season with was the same as they were the year the Bears were a super bowl defense, and the same as the past two years


So what besides personnel has changed?
- DE's are a bit older
- Tommie Harris is either unmotivated or a worn-down athelete
- Urlacher is still good but not as good as the player he was
- Motivation or a series of injury is causing Vasher to play like shit
- New defensive coordinator

I think that last point might be key. Lovie demoted Babich and is assuming the position himself more and more. Marineli is brought in to further ice out any role Babich had in commanding the defense.

All that being, said, I'll attempt to directly answer your contestations:

- The tampa-2 is a good defensive scheme that's produced some great defenses just in this decade, including two superbowl winning defenses and another super bowl loss. Schemes are just hollow foundations though, you have to have players and coaches that can constantly inject the physical and mental effort and talent on the field in order for it to be successful.

-You're really knocking a guy for having a background as an assistant job as a position coach? Do you realize just how many NFL coaches start out like that. To keep things in Tampa, Dungy started out that way as a D-backs coach for Chuck Noll! Hungry for more examples? Well, Belichick started off as an assistant special team coach himself. Trust me, there is no shortage. Just because Lovie Smith and Babich both had the same job title at one time doesn't mean they have the same qualifications for coaching an NFL defense from a head coach position. After all, every team has a coach for D-backs, special teams, d-line, linebackers. No, there are not 128 potential NFL head coaches comprised of assistants at those positions. There's probably a few, though.


-Lovie's got a pretty good record to this point, and a super bowl appearance is a credit to his work on the team

By Creighton is the 2nd coming of Bill Walsh on

"Creighton - Dude.. Shut up. The more you say, the more ignorant you sound. Nobody said that Gilbert was a NT."

By Joe Felicelli on April 26, 2009 8:46 PM
"Gilbert is only capable of being a DT in this system, and he is a decent fit in his style to what a nose tackle does in our system,"

Really moron nobody said it, I just imagined this quote on this thread. Did you read any of the other posts or are you just stupid?

"Glen Earl and Josh Bullocks are absolutely potential difference makers. Bullocks was a 2nd round pick. He started strong, and had some issues last year."

Yep that settles it you are stuipid. Earl has not played in two years and Bullocks was considered the worst FS in the NFl. Not just last year either, he has sucked for three years now. Why do you think the Saints didn't sign him/ Because he was good. What you think because a guy was picked in the second round he can't suck. Once more, you are stupid. Just ask Manning how good a FS he is, he was second round pick too. Guess what first rounders, second rounders and third rounders can all suck, yeah it's true, they can all be bad.

Lets see you asked about Melton and then cut and paste the tribs post on him. Was today the first time you ever heard of him? I bet it was. Yeah you really saw him play, sure you did. I know he got 4 sacks playing across from Orakpo and that guys switch positions in college all the time, he would not be the first. So no I am not impressed at all. Rod M has never coached up an end in his life. He has generated a couple of first round busts though. Or do you think the Bucs signed Rice because it was a cheaper alternative to the draft. Worst coach in Football History. You really are stupid.

Lets see what did I say about Melton.
"Melton, I really don't like this pick, not because I think he is a bad player. But what is it with Texas guys and DUI's? The other reason I don't like it is because I want Gilbert to be the next end. If Gilbert goes to DT and Melton plays end our line just got smaller, WTF. Plus Lang was on the board and would have brought more value and finally we would have a guy to replace Garza and help in short yardage situations."

Tell you what stupid how about you quit acting like a little B**** looking to pick a fight, if you don't like people talking about the draft don't be here. If you read what I wrote in no way did I insult Melton, I just said I would rather have Lang. So once again you prove how stupid you are.

You are f****** stupid.

By Arlen on April 27, 2009 12:32 AM

The tampa-2 is a good defensive scheme that's produced some great defenses just in this decade, including two superbowl winning defenses and another super bowl loss. Schemes are just hollow foundations though, you have to have players and coaches that can constantly inject the physical and mental effort and talent on the field in order for it to be successful.

Ok first off the Tampa 2 is a good scheme but you are missing a few important things. It's based off the Steel Curtain defense and requires 4 linmen that can rush the passer. What is really difficult about this defense is building it. You need tons of talent, that is not easy to come by. With the way things are going in college football, UT's are becoming extinct and hybrids are all over the place. That does not help.

Now a moron spoke that that there is no NT in a Cover 2. This is from NFL.com, oh and i have a nice article were Brad Culpepper talks about playing NG for the Bucs. But I guess it doesn't exist. Let me add this also a cover two can be played in a 4-3 or 3-4 it just means 2 safties deep only a moron wouldn't know that. Now let me point out that a NT plays is both a 3-4 and a 4-3 and has nothing to do with the safties.

"In a traditional 4-3 defensive set, the nose tackle is one of two defensive tackles, usually on the weak side of the offensive line. His job is to take up the center and weak-side or pulling guard so that the smaller 'rush' end has a 1-on-1 matchup with the offense's blindside tackle. The second defensive tackle sometimes referred to as an 'under tackle', takes up the strongside guard and the strongside end takes up the strongside offensive tackle."

You can actually play with two NT in a 4-3, just like the Ravens did in 2000. Hmmmmmm, I guess some people shouldn't go picking fights.

Guess what position Buger McFarland played?


Jarron Gilbert is a beast man...I like him better at DT. I think we need a 3 DT rotation, and Tommie Harris, Marcus Harrisson and Jarron Gilbert give us the potential to have one of the best DT situations in the NFL, especially with all 3 being under 25 years old.

Creighton
I dont get why you think Gilbert would get more time at DE. At DT he's behing Tommie and Harrison...and you have said on NUMEROUS occasions that Tommie Harris takes the least snaps...

So how will he get more time behind Alex Brown, Adewale Ogunleye, Mark Anderson AND Israel Idonije...i dont think he'd see the field. But playing next to Tommie or Macrus, he could be great.

Why is everyone hating on the Henry Melton pick? he is the EXACT same size as Brian Orakpo and might actually have a higher ceiling. The dude is EXTREMELY talented, you cant ask for much more talent in a 4th round pick..he is raw, but he doesnt have to start this year..or even next year..he can learn, and maybe work his way in and see a little action..and maybe someday be a starter. ITS A 4th ROUND PICK..jeesh. I love it.

Juaquin Iglesias or Earl Bennett WILL start next to Devin Hester this year. Creighton you are wrong about Iglesias's size. He is 6'1 (6'0 and 7/8) to be exact and weighs 210. I think he'll be a great split end..hes EXACTLY the kind of WR we need...he's got great hands, is strong, fearless over the middle and can block. He is bigger then Marty Booker or Brandon Lloyd, and they started at split end..im sorry but 6'1 210 is good size for a west coast offense, almost prototypical...there aren't many 6'5 freaks out there..Iglesias is a good player.

I think Johnny Knox will take Drops Davis's job in the slot at some point...Knox has speed and good good hands and will be great as a #3 or #4 WR at some point...He will be better because of Cutler.

DJ Moore is a stud...and am I the only one that thinks maybe he's not here to replace Vasher?? maybe he's here to give us another solid corner..im actually wondering if maybe we can move Tillman to FS now...we'd still have solid corners - Nate Vasher, Corey Graham, DJ Moore, Trumaine McBride and Danieal Manning. I think its very possible.

Um...did you watch Marcus Freeman play? The guy is a gamer. He could come in and take the strong side job from Nick Roach this year. He was amazing his junior year, he was slowed by injury this year, but we was still a perfect Cover 2 linebacker type..

I think this draft was amazing considering where we picked these guys at...DJ Moore, Jarron Gilbert, Juaquin Iglesias AND Marcus Freeman could have been 2nd round picks and we got all 4! Incredible..and then we added Henry Melton and Johnny Knox..oh and
JAY CUTLER.

Oh..and that safety we took in the 6th round? Dont sleep on him, i did some extensive research cause i (admittedly) had never even heard of him..but man he was impressive at the combine, has speed and can lay the hammer down...it was a 6th round pick, so im not expecting anything, but lets see what he has..JA has a knack for getting DBs late (Kevin Payne, Brandon McGowan, Chris Harris, Todd Johnson, Nathan Vasher, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride and now DJ Moore)

GO BEARS!!

I was disappointed not by the players drafted so much but by the plan for Gilbert and Louis. I would prefer to play Gilbert at DE he adds size and athletism to the defense could be a outside pass-rusher. I believe Louis could be a factor if given a opportunity to play fullback it would be like having a guard in the back field and a dump off or swing with him in stride could be interesting to watch what happens to DB's. I was hoping Melton and Gilbert were the future bookends. D.J. Moore plays taller than he is and he is a lockdown type corner. The only problem with this whole thing is the coaching staff has not stepped up and developed much of anything that is were my concern is they could have drafted all #1's if the staff doesn't develop what they are given then it dosen't matter.

Creighton - you are a douche of the highest odor. You sound like you suffer from a serious case of Napoleon Syndrome. Let me guess... you're about 3'6. It's ok. I'd be pissed all the time too if the my face was level with ass all day. How's the air down there?

Pitt fan here. Don't sleep on Kinder. Pitt didn't have a quarterback who could throw the ball more than 15 yards last year so his stats mean nothing. He should be fully recovered from his injury by training camp (it takes two years for an ACL injury like his) and runs a legit 4.4. Most importantly, the dude is a devastating blocker. Kinder is the guy who sprung Darrelle Revis on the punt return he was up for an ESPY for two or three years ago at Pitt.

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