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UPDATED: Angelo, Gabriel discuss 2009 NFL draft

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The Bears have started their pre-draft media session with general manager Jerry Angelo and college scouting director Greg Gabriel. Here are some highlights as we go:

JA: "I know not having a No. 1 pick will put a cloud on the draft. I see potentially three starters from this draft class. We certainly have needs some of you have talked about, pretty obvious in some areas."

Angelo says the after market in free agency starting next week will be better than usual. Maybe he targets a wide receiver there. Angelo believes some wide receivers could be cut after teams draft some.

JA: "The receiver position is a position we are looking at strongly but I don't want to rule out other players at other positions that can be better players. We're never going to rule out defensive linemen. There are other positions we feel potentially you would classify as a need as well."

JA: "Three starters down the road [could come from this draft]. When we put a final grade on a player that reflects what that player will be in Year 2 or Year 3."

Can the wide receiver corps be better in 2009?

JA: "I think it will be better given the fact that our quarterback is going to play better. I feel that is something that is going to help that position and the whole off overall. We want to create some depth there. I feel we are going to be better there as a whole. [Devin] Hester going into his second year, Rashied Davis being slotted as a slot receiver, we do like Earl Bennett a lot, the familiarity with [Jay] Cutler. We feel good going forward. We could [do something] post draft."

UPDATED

Could the Bears trade up?

JA: "I don't feel like we have enough ammunition to do that."

Angelo didn't rule it out as a possibility but he acknowledged it would be tough to pull off if not impossible.

Angelo says if the Bears draft a wideout in the first four rounds he believes it will be a player who will be able to step in and contribute as a rookie.

Angelo says that because three defensive ends are coming out of contract after this season, it could shape their plans on draft weekend. He reiterated he always does extra work on defensive linemen.

On Georgia wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi:

JA: "I like him very much. He's very explosive. He can do everything."

Angelo said he had his best season this past year for the Bulldogs and said drops are maybe the one knock on him. Angelo also lauded Massaquoi's character, which can be an issue for some at the position.

Angelo on Plaxico Burress:

JA: "He's got pretty strict laws up there and what he did is looked at pretty seriously. I can't really answer that right now in terms of how we view him. I'm not looking at him as an option."

JA: "You're not going to get a home run guy at the 49th pick."

JA: "I think the receiver group this year is outstanding. We felt like we could get a really, good quality receiver [at No. 18 before the Cutler trade]. I felt the quality at the position was so good maybe you could get a blue receiver at 18."

JA: "I think [Brian Robiskie] could easily be gone by No. 49."

Gabriel's thoughts on Jason Williams, the Western Illinois linebacker who is a DuSable product:

GG: "He's a dominant player at the I-AA level. He's athletic."

Angelo on drafting players with medical concerns after the Chris Williams experience:

JA: "Last year we made a conscious decision, we talked about it as an organization, we're going to be more disciplined in our approach to taking players with medical concerns. We hve to do a good job of being more disciplined because we have had some issues."

JA: "Don't beat us up too badly if we don't [draft a wide receiver]."

On Cutler impacting the organization

JA: "We've done a pretty good job in Chicago of playing arounf the quarterback. We've won a lot of games without a quarterback. That bodes well for the organization. With a quarterback, maybe we won't have to be error free as much."

Who is the receiver the Bears have targeted? It sounds like Angelo will definitely draft one in the second round at No. 49 if the right guy is there. Here is what we base that on when he was asked what the difference could be between a receiver at No. 49 or No. 99.

JA: "If the receiver we like isn't there [at No. 49], it won't be a big difference."

That could mean the Bears look at a guy like Virginia's Kevin Ogletree at the end of the third round or in the fourth round, or perhaps Oklahoma's Juaquin Iglesias if he slides that far.

Angelo on defensive ends in this draft

JA: "It's a good nucleus of trait guys. I think it's a stronger group than in past years. You are really looking at the traits, the ceiling. If you're totally relying on the stop watch, that could be a misnomer. I only have to look at my bone collection to see that isn't an easy thing to do."

On Cutler

"I think he has the mettle to come in and do the things we all know and want him to do."

Are you going to draft a QB?

JA: "Well, it's not a position of need."

Check back soon as we update this press conference as it is in progress.

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For all you Kyle Orton fans:

"We've done a pretty good job in Chicago of playing around the quarterback. We've won a lot of games without a quarterback. That bodes well for the organization. With a quarterback, maybe we won't have to be error free as much."

Not exactly a ringing endorsement. Makes his statements about the QB position sound more like this was going to be it for K.O., one way or the other.

Denver is now stuck with him. Good luck with that.

"Experts" like Peter King can go on about how key he was to the trade, how the Broncos really like him, ad nausuem. He was, is and always will be a decent back up. We should know. We saw him upfront and personal.

And please, Orton apologists, don't tell me about how the ankle injury derailed a pro bowl season. What it did was take away what little mobility he had. That's all.

Kudos to J.A. I won't miss a first round pick at all.

Tall order from the man himself. No doubt they NEED at least 3 starters. Historically it's hard to find a Jerry Angelo draft class with that many. From that perspective you could argue that the stinker '05 class is the best one, except that they start for other teams.

If he gets 3 starters from this class it will be a banner year. Especially with no first round pick.

To me it is vital they hit with their first pick at #49. I don't care what position, just get a player that consistently produces.

JA: "I know not having a No. 1 pick will put a cloud on the draft. I see potentially three starters from this draft class. We certainly have needs some of you have talked about, pretty obvious in some areas."

Actually thats okay cause you got Jay Cutler, and you usually blow the pick anyway.

JA: "The receiver position is a position we are looking at strongly but I don't want to rule out other players at other positions that can be better players. We're never going to rule out defensive linemen. There are other positions we feel potentially you would classify as a need as well."

Everything is going good with the interview so far.

JA: "Three starters down the road [could come from this draft]. When we put a final grade on a player that reflects what that player will be in Year 2 or Year 3."

He actually says this every year, his average over the last 6 years is less than 2 starters a year. But anyone can be a starter, what we want are good starters.

"Angelo says that because three defensive ends are coming out of contract after this season, it could shape their plans on draft weekend. He reiterated he always does extra work on defensive linemen."

Really then explain this. "Peter King points out at SI.com, Bill Belichick has been involved in 28 trades on draft weekend from 2000-2008, and 16 times he traded down (remember one of those trades up came with the Bears in 2003 when Angelo was dumfounded that Jimmy Kennedy was off the board and the Bears didn't know what to do. They swapped down one spot with the Patriots and proved they didn't know what to do by selecting Michael Haynes)." Extra work you say?? Both Kennedy and Haynes were busts.

On Georgia wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi:

JA: "I like him very much. He's very explosive. He can do everything."

Angelo said he had his best season this past year for the Bulldogs and said drops are maybe the one knock on him. Angelo also lauded Massaquoi's character, which can be an issue for some at the position.

Why does Angelo always like recievers who drop the ball? Here you see Angelos big weakness, he to often likes a guy for who he is and not what he does on the field.

JA: "You're not going to get a home run guy at the 49th pick."

What kind of attitude is that? There have been tons of 2nd round studs, why give up already. Maybe with Angelo drafting we wont get a home run guy, but other teams seem to have no problem finding guys there. Hester was a second round pick idiot. A guy you claim can be a number 1 and one of the best return men in NFL history. If he is not a home run threat how can you feel he can be a number 1.

JA: "We've done a pretty good job in Chicago of playing arounf the quarterback. We've won a lot of games without a quarterback. That bodes well for the organization. With a quarterback, maybe we won't have to be error free as much."

Hahahahaha, thats right crush the Orton and Rex fans. Thats awsome.

Angelo on defensive ends in this draft

JA: "It's a good nucleus of trait guys. I think it's a stronger group than in past years. You are really looking at the traits, the ceiling. If you're totally relying on the stop watch, that could be a misnomer. I only have to look at my bone collection to see that isn't an easy thing to do."

Thats interesting, you would think if he was interested in Ends he might look at them cause he does extra work on the dline. This could be a smoke screen. However it is a need and all 3 contracts will be up.

JA: "You're not going to get a home run guy at the 49th pick."

Jerry, what? Are you serious? What kind of guys are you looking for then? SHouldn't you always looking for homeruns? Maybe thats why your drafts SUCK!!! PLEASE DO US DIE HARD BEARS FANS A FAVOR AND NOT REACH FOR A GUY IN ANY ROUNDS THIS YEAR, I.E. DAN BAUZIN 2nd RD. PLEASE

ORTON SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been telling you all that for 5 years now and Jerry now says it!! I'm a genius!!! I should be GM!!!!!

Im a realist and my problem with this draft is the lack of attention being paid to the safety position. I believe the QB makes the receiver, If you look at QB's around the league you will see what IM talking about. You look at trent Greent when he was with the Chiefs. Look at Bree's he was missing Colston and he made a studd out of Lance Moore who is undersized. Rivers in Sand Diego, who do they really have that jumps out at you. You look at the WR's that have come thru Chicago, Gage, Wade, Bradley, Muhammed, Lloyd, Booker, berrian. I find it very hard to believe that despite being mediocre that they wouldnt have been as productive or better. The Bears need another WR, in the 3rd round there will still be options or even FA after the draft like they stated. My biggest concern is the safety position. That Bears D is not the same without a true free safety. I still think bringin Brown back would be better than the clowns we have as hopeful starters. Payne at strong safety is a plus but we need a Free Safety, Rashad Johnson should be the pick for the Bears in Round 2.

"Three starters down the road [could come from this draft]. When we put a final grade on a player that reflects what that player will be in Year 2 or Year 3."

Before everyone gets excited about starters from this draft read the last 6 words in JA's statement. "Starters in 2 or 3 years".

JA has picked alot of winners in the later rounds, so give it a chance. It worked out good for Tillman, Hester, Briggs, Brown and Vasher, all picks from rounds 2 thru 4.

Im not going to beat a dead horse here but Orton did have a better season the McMann did in all of his years in Chicago!

FUMBLING AWAY THE DYNASTY---TURNING JAY CUTLER INTO KYLE ORTON

From:
"Four Down Territory, April 20: Could the Bears trade up in Rd. 2?"
April 20,2009

"NFL.com draft analyst Mike Mayock said last week that you can throw the traditional draft value chart away. He calls is obsolete.

``Every team in the top 10 is looking to trade out,'' Mayock said. ``Never seen it, never seen the situation quite this heavy.
I think any team in the top 10 that is looking to get out will listen to any reasonable offer"

Brad Biggs wrote:

"The first round is where you find blue-chip talent in the draft. Personnel people will tell you time and time again it's the blue chip players that make a difference on Sundays. You point to the busts in the first round and I'll point to the first round producing more Pro Bowl players than any other round. There's no sure thing in the second round."

Jerry Angelo:

"We've done a pretty good job in Chicago of playing around the quarterback. We've won a lot of games without a quarterback. That bodes well for the organization. With a quarterback, maybe we won't have to be error free as much."

OT Andre Smith, Center/Guard Alex Mack, OG Duke Robinson. If the Bears go out and make the deals to get these players then they are on their way to a dynasty of 3 Superbowl wins.

If not, the next Superbowl they go to might be in 2026 in keeping with their history. But I would think they might go to one Superbowl if they don't get the "Elite O-line" in Jay Cutler's career here in Chicago. That's right folks. In the next 10-12 years Jay Cutler and the Bears will probably only go to one Superbowl; if they're lucky.

The Chicago Media has failed. They were screaming to get Jay Cutler. But they remain silent on getting the "Elite O-line" that Jay Cutler and the Bears NEED to get a "DYNASTY".

If Jay Cutler wants to win 3 Superbowls, he better not sign a long term contract with the Bears until he sees them try to do better on the O-line.

It is clear. Mack and Smith, two rare players, are there for the taking. Teams are willing to make trades like never before. Brad Biggs writes: "Personnel people will tell you time and time again it's the blue chip players that make a difference on Sundays."

But Brad also reports that the Bears look like they may not even DRAFT an O-lineman. They seem to want to go to the very bottom of the barrel in their search to fix the O-line!

As I've said before, the Bears are in a UNIQUE situation. They now have an "Elite QB" and NEED an "Elite O-line" to get the most out of Cutler's talent. The Bears are WASTING Cutler's talent!

I cringe every time I read people write that Cutler is great because he is so mobile. Yes, he is. And I can almost guarantee that he is going to get injured because he is forced to run because of the weak O-line. You don't want your QB's running anymore than they have to. Can anybody think of QB's who got hurt because they were running around?

The Bears are lacking in WR's and the O-line today because they thought they had mediocre QB's. Who needs a good O-line or WR's when you just want to run the ball and let your Super-duper Defense win the game for you? Angelo's recent statements confirm that attitude.

There were Free Agent WR's the Bears could have got this year to fix the position. They sat and did nothing. Why? Who needs 'em? Orton was the QB.

They targeted Omiyale as a Free Agent, but he's barely played. So nobody knows if he's any good. Shaffer and Pace were last minute signings and Pace was low-balled in his offer! Williams fragile back is a great concern. Why did the Bears get in this position? Because Orton was your QB. And the Bears just don't value the offense.

Temporary fixes and scraping the bottom of the barrel for O-linemen.

No NEED is greater right now than to "Blue-chip" the O-line by getting Mack, Smith, and Robinson.

They will come in and be starters from day one. The Bears will have one of the weakest schedules-a great time to let them develop. And did I mention they are all great run blockers? How good is that for a team that "gets off the bus running"?

This is the way you "DOMINATE". This is the way you get a "DYNASTY".
By getting the best players that give you the best chance to succeed.

It CAN be done. All it takes is guts, effort and a little luck. And to know when to do what it takes. And that time is now.

Bears management, please do not condemn Chicago to 12 more years of soul suffocating mediocrity.

BE BOLD AND GLORY SHALL BE YOURS!

GO BEARS!



Mac/Orton Stats

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OrtoKy00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McMaJi00.htm?redir

uh Jim had that ring though....plus look at other stats as well,
I like Orton and I would have been comfortable with him here at QB, But if I had to pick I would pick Jim Mac, his field vision was incredible and leadership as well.
Posters like nbs are idiots as they do not see the real Orton but they will in Denver. But I do like Cutler/Mac both better than Orton.

and remember Mac had Walter the Great who was going to get his carries (deservedly so) but look at % comp.
Orton had 465 att. Mac didn't have hardly over 300 in his career, his top years 331 he had 60% comp. Not saying Orton wasn't good as you would never hear mesay that.

Getting three starters out of the draft class might say as much about your current roster as it does about the draft class. Just because someone *is* starting doesn't necessarily mean he *should be* starting.

By NeckBeardSucks on April 21, 2009 2:12 PM
ORTON SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've been telling you all that for 5 years now and Jerry now says it!! I'm a genius!!! I should be GM!!!!!"

Hahahaha, dude you crack me up but you are so full it. You know you love Kyle Orton, thats all you ever talk about.

By the way Kyle Orton has only been in the NFL for 4 years. So for 5 years you have been saying he sucks?? Did you see into the future with your magic powers again?

By the way I know your going to love this, Simms has a leg up on him in Denver and Denver is currently brining Sanchez in for a final look. There going to trade up for him. Orton will probably be cut if they draft him.

How giddy are you right now? He will probably be cut from the Broncos and Angelo said he sucks. How good a day is this for you?

Orton better than McMahon. You must be nuts. I was at the Vikings, BEARS game in 1985. I saw Jimmy MAc come in and win the game in the second half at Minnesota. Were you there? For that matter why don't you compare Grossmans 1st full year stats (2006) with Ortons 1st full year (2005). When your done, come back and tells us about it.

NBS you are probably having that afterglow cigarette now. But it must be hydroponic you post as usual is incoherant and ignorant as always. You have not even the smallest idea of how it works. It's not a fantasy league it's for real and you are in a fantasy world. Stop hanging out with M.P. put down the bong and pay attention: the Bears will be selecting the best player availible on their board REGARDLESS of position. Please cease all those wild impossible scenarios that exist only in your clouded fantasy world.

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