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Packers-Bears all for naught? Playoff hopes could be officially dead by Monday

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How troubling were the results of games Sunday and Monday for the Bears?

The league office has confirmed that the Bears can officially be eliminated from playoff contention before they host the Green Bay Packers Monday night at Soldier Field. That's how bad Sunday was and Philadelphia's victory over Cleveland Monday night only served to make matters worse.

If all of the following occurs, the Bears will be playing for 2009 come Monday:

Dallas defeats Baltimore on Saturday night
Minnesota defeats Atlanta on Sunday; wins NFC North
Tampa Bay defeats San Diego on Sunday
Philadelphia defeats Washington on Sunday

For what it's worth, for those who follow such stuff, the Cowboys, Vikings, Buccaneers and Eagles are all favored in those games. If they all win, it will make getting up for a meaningless game in what should be frosty conditions probably a little difficult. But maybe not.

"I'm excited to get another crack at Aaron Rodgers and that offense,'' defensive end Adewale Ogunleye said. "I think you [have to embrace the rivalry] because the fans won't like you if you don't. So I hate the Packers; I want all the Bears fans to know I hate the Packers. But it's a big rivalry and actually after losing the way we did up there, it makes it even more of a heated battle with Monday night coming up. I can't wait. I really, really want to try to settle the score and at least go 1-1 against the Packers."

That's what it could be reduced to, playing to go 1-1 against Green Bay.

Obviously, the Bears' best chance for a postseason berth is to hope the Vikings lose to Atlanta and then again next week against the New York Giants. The wild-card scenario is farfetched and would require even more help next weekend.

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I pray that we even make it to the POs, but from what it seems right now the odds are severly stacked against us though I will remain obstinate an think we have a shot, even though the possiblities look bleek. All we can do is hope that we win out, and the vikings lose out, along with any of the mathematical cenarios brought up above. Go Bears!

Look in the mirror, boys! You only have yourselves to blame!! If they are eliminated by Monday, it's time to see Chris Williams, Caleb Hanie, Dan Bunning, Jamar Williams, Earl Bennett, Brandon Riedue, and every other young player that is better then the starters but Lovie is too stubborn to play!!

"Packers-Bears all for naught? Playoff hopes could be officially dead by Monday"

Brad, please. You're making Creighton's mouth water.

I think we all agree that with a Vikings win on Sunday the playoffs will be out of reach regardless of all the wacky, drawn out possibilities for a wild card. It's either win the NFC North, or go home and wait 'till next season. With that said, Go Falcons!!

Way to go Wale!, you are correct that's what I want to hear as a BEARS fan, we play to beat the packers no matter what the situation is, and I hope the whole team remembers the desperation beatdown we took up there earlier this season from a team we had owned in their home stadium for the past few years......I want to beat them just because of who they are, doing so will ensure a winning season....so let's kick their azz.....
Brad thanks for maintain a sense of reality with the playoff picture, but let's closely examine some of the intangibles in our favor in some of those games....First ATL has to win to help their cause also, they have the Eagles and TB along with Dallsa to be concerned about a win by them helps us, second The Ravens are not guaranteed a spot either, and beating a dysfunctional Dallas team is not out of the rhelm of possiblity there also, San Diego is still the hunt, only the Eagles have a game that bothers me at this point. Let's stay positive and see what happens, who know what strnge call may change to outcome of a game this week by the officials as well...Still I'd rather have hope than be playing out the string or for the hated pack looking up at the BEARS in the standings where they belong

Way to go Wale!, you are correct that's what I want to hear as a BEARS fan, we play to beat the packers no matter what the situation is, and I hope the whole team remembers the desperation beatdown we took up there earlier this season from a team we had owned in their home stadium for the past few years......I want to beat them just because of who they are, doing so will ensure a winning season....so let's kick their azz.....
Brad thanks for maintaining a sense of reality with the playoff picture, but let's closely examine some of the intangibles in our favor in some of those games....First ATL has to win to help their cause also, they have the Eagles and TB along with Dallas to be concerned about a win by them helps us, second The Ravens are not guaranteed a spot either, and beating a dysfunctional Dallas team is not out of the rhelm of possiblity there also, San Diego is still the hunt, only the Eagles have a game that bothers me at this point. Let's stay positive and see what happens, who know what strange call may change the outcome of a game this week by the officials as well...Still I'd rather have hope than be playing out the string or for the hated pack looking up at the BEARS in the standings where they belong

We will destroy you clowns and salvage our season. At least we have an excuse for losing, half our defense is injured!!! You guys just plain stink!! Go Jets!!! The better the Jets do, the higher our draft pick next year! One more player to help kick the Bears into hibernation again!!!! See you losers Monday!!!!

It finally dawned on me PackerWacker. I had always wondered why a Packer fan would repeatedly visit a Bears blog again and again and now I know the answer:

Because nobody, not even Packers fans, could care the least about this years Green Bay team!

Oh how I remember the pre-season chatter; experts and analysts were selecting either the Packers or the Vikings to take the NFC North. They figured that with such a young team, the very same that posted a 13-3 record last season, how could the Packers not retake the division? Fast forward to today and now, even Detroit gets more attention than you because they have a 99.9% chance at making history! Hmm, must be that pesky Suberbowl hangover. Oh wait, nevermind.

So I guess I pity you because you have no team to root for. But we Bears fans are decent people so you're welcome to drop by as often as you like just as long as you behave yourself.

Oh and forgive the speculation, but if the Jets advance and succeed in the playoffs, won't that make your organization look all the more foolish for practically giving away a football legend?

A Packers fan spends time out of his day -- probably about 15 minutes to type 7 sentences -- to go to a Chicago media web site and trash talk with Bears fans? And he calls us losers? Hmmm.

packerslacker, maybe you all can pick Mandarich again with that pick, you remember how great a player he was..........NOT!...........

Washington will loose, Chargers have a shot, Vikes and Falcons will be too close to call, but there is no way the Boys are taking down Baltimore. Either way Atlanta is getting to ten wins in there last game.

Twice this year the Bears season was on the line, once in GB and once in Minn. The Bears failed to beat either team in a playoff like atmosphere but instead got there butts kicked both times. They have done this too themselves.

Mike stop worrying about what my mouth is doing it creeps me out. Oh and Mike if you are going to insult someone like Fudgepacker, could you at least try and do a good job of it. Be clever, come up with something new and original and then hammer him.

But instead you give this, "So I guess I pity you because you have no team to root for. But we Bears fans are decent people so you're welcome to drop by as often as you like just as long as you behave yourself."

I actually puked in my mouth a little when I read this. Why don't you just get it over with and have him over for dinner, movie and cuddle time. Then you can discuss which is worse the frozen tundra of Lambeau or Bear weather while you knit tea cozies and reminisce over who has a better sausage, your chicago polish or his fudgepacker brat.

Also decent people?? It's Chicago, it's rated the most corrupt city in the US, it has a top 5 murder rate every year, number 1 this year, our popular culture consists of mob ties and political corruption. Worst of all the UFC ranks us there most popular city and pulls it's largest share of the market from us. Man the UFC thinks were great. We are the single largest market in the world for skull caps and Tapout T-shirts.

A lot is at stake this weekend, I know sunday we will all be checking out the Vikings Falcons game. Its cool Pat Williams went down, even though he shouldn't be playing right now anyways, but thats another story for another blog. I can't say this enough, "the Falcons must win," winning the NFC north is our only realistic shot, plus, it will be cool to host a playoff game and win the NFC north at the same time. If Chicago can win their next two, and I got a feeling they will beat the Packers, along with the Vikings losing their next two, we also might not hear from Packerbacker anymore, and if we do, my theory is correct, Packerbacker is really a disgruntled Bear fan. Its just the little things he has said before that make me think this, the one thing that really stuck out to me was the Grossman comment he made awhile back, it was almost like he was mad Bear fans booed Grossman. I ask you this, what REAL Packers fan would give a two #hits about Bear fans booing Rex???????????? Just a theory GO BEARS!!

"Washington will loose, Chargers have a shot, Vikes and Falcons will be too close to call, but there is no way the Boys are taking down Baltimore. Either way Atlanta is getting to ten wins in there last game."

There you go, folks. Divine words straight from Mt. Olympus. No need to speculate anymore about this Sunday.

"I actually puked in my mouth a little when I read this."

Ah, my mistake. I will try to be a little more careful in using words such as "decent" in your presence.

Actually, I'm not sure why me calling Bears fans decent set you off, but I wonder, what's your beef with Chicago, dude? Great, the murder rate is high and corruption is rampant, but I got news for you. Ready? Not everyone in Chicago is corrupt or criminally violent. Corruption and crime exist in every city and, ready for this? Good people, who do good things, actually live in Chicago and the surrounding neighborhoods! I know, take a moment if you need to, I didn't mean to shock you so badly. I should also add that not all Bears fans reside in Chicago but whatever.

Well, this is the time of year that transformed the Grinch so I'll hold out hope; for your sake Creighton. Who knows? Maybe this year you'll be the one who carves the rare Who roast beast.

"I'm excited to get another crack at Aaron Rodgers and that offense,'' defensive end Adewale Ogunleye said.

Thats funny, lololol
Dude! wtf have you done MOST OF THE YEAR!

That out of my system, The Bears will show up cause they do get up for the pack, (usually)

Copy/Paste link below for a interesting read preview on the Bears Players/Team before their last game:
Interesting that they pegged St. Clair as our No.1 OL, and they lay it on URL and then he has 7 tackles. (This is a sports article - not a blog)

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/34489904.html

Oh well, if they don't make the playoffs, I still think they did better than I thought they would this year.

Who cares what the other teams do. Just beat the Pack and the the Texans.

Then sign Peppers and Goff.

Then draft Maualuga in the first and TIM TEBOW!!! in the 2nd. It could happen. He could play fullback. He could throw!! We could have a Wildcat formation on steroids!! Just kidding. Getting ahead of myself. But Tebow is one heck of a talent, and a beast of a human being. He could be a lead blocker, slot receiver, goal line back, run the option, and who knows what else.

They might not get Maualuga, but Oher, Raji, Laurenitis, and Cody would probably be available.

Face it, the Bears are on the high end of "middle of the pack" teams this year. Their starting QB got injured at a critical time. It may have cost them the Tennessee game. Their O-line and D-line underperformed and they got pushed around at the line of scrimmage. And they still might win 10 games.

And they are 2 or 3 players away from being dominant on defense again. It is obvious that Nose Tackle, Defensive End, and Strong side Line Backer are weak this year. They could go the expensive route and sign and pay Julius Peppers, Haynesworth, and Farrior. That would be awesome in fact. But fact is they won't be able to afford both of the D-linemen. Plus they need more bulk on the O-line too. And Goff could fill that role. They still may have enough left for Columbo at Right Tackle.

The Offense is good enough averaging 24 points per game. that should be plenty for any "Traditional" Chicago Bear's Defense.

Just win Bears. And then make the moves to become dominant again.

I am a bit disappointed in an article I read by Sun-Times staff writer Mike Mulligan, titled "A season of mythic distortions." In it, Mulligan basically calls Matt Forte an Anthony Thomas with receiving ability, are you kidding me!!?? Fortes receiving ability are what make him better than Thomas and a lot of other runners out there, this is why I think Forte deserves a little more credit than that. I agree with Mulligan that Forte might not win rookie of the year, [even though I still think he should, being such a big part of Chicago's offense] it will probably be Atlanta's Matt Ryan or Tennessee's Chris Johnson. Mulligan also compares Forte to fellow rookie runningbacks Chris Johnson and Steve Slaton, Mulligan goes on about how they have a few more rushing yards than Forte. Couple things Mulligan never took into consideration, first of all, as far as Chris Johnson goes, Johnson runs behind one of the leagues best o-lines, also, Johnson is spelled by LenDale White. I ask Mulligan this, put Forte behind Johnsons line, and spell Forte with a bruiser like White, I wonder how Forte's rushing yards would look with these simple advantages Johnson has over Forte???? Also, the fact that the Titans have one of the leagues better defenses, is also advantage Johnson, the fact that the Titans were up a lot more than the Bears were, equals a lot easier time runnung the ball for Johnson, vs Forte with the Bears being behind a lot more and having to pass. As far as Slaton goes, all I have to say is Andre Johnson, the leagues best receiver. With a threat like Johnson at receiver for Slaton, I guarantee Forte faced a lot more 8 man boxes than Slaton did. Again, give Forte Andre Johnson or any number 1 receiver, and watch his stats inflate.

Botton line, give Forte the advantages that both Johnson and Slaton had, on top of the fact Forte is a much better receiver, and I think Forte is a little better than Mulligan makes him out to be. GO FORTE!! GO BEARS!!

I'm sorry PackerBacker, did you say something? I couldn't hear you over the vortex of suck that is Green Bay's season.

Chicago was picked to finish 3rd or 4th this season and BE LUCKY to win 8 games. Well, it's December and Chicago is fighting for their playoff life. Green Bay - the division favorite - fans are hoping for a win over Chicago to salvage their train-wreck of a season as they are already locked into 3rd place ... thank God for the Lions, huh?

The sad, stark reality is settling in for cheese heads ... Favre is gone and Green Bay is back to being irrelevant ... not only in the NFC North but the ENTIRE NFL.

Brad my man, what's with the alarmist tack? Yes, it's possible the Bears will be eliminated this week before they get to play. But you make it sound like the roof is caving in (BTW, the copy would be fine with a different title).

The probability of that 4 part scenario unfolding is 17.7%. To put that number in perspective, no team playing this weekend is that big of an underdog (the biggest dog (7.5 points) is ARI at NE at 24.7%).

Yes, anything can happen in the NFL, but let's not get carried away in melodrama. There's still a 82.3% chance the Bears will be alive heading into the Packers game.

BTW, if you're curious here're the probabilities on those games:


game odds prob
bal@DAL -193 65.9%
sd@TB -179 64.2%
PHI@was -210 67.7%
atl@MIN -162 61.8%
all 4: +465 17.7%

ARI@ne +305 24.7%

For comparison again, 7.5 point dogs ARI on the road beating NE has a better chance of happening.

I say Tarvaris Jackson wakes up and throws 4 INTs, Falcons win 35-31. Bears beat Green Bay 37-3 and that will make the last game fun and entertaining.

Packer Backer go back to your room, close the blinds and do what you do best.

The Pack is going down on Monday and the Pack is going down in general.

Forte is better by far than any running back since Neal Anderson. Forte does it all runs well, makes defenders miss, blocks well for the QB, catches passes well out of the backfield and carries around 36% of the Bears offense. Ryan will win the award but Forte is the Bears most valuable this year with Orton right along side of him.

Stranger things have happened, the Vikings could lose both since the two teams they will face are run based teams with a good pass rush.

Go Bears!!!!!

I think Atlanta has a real shot at Minnesota. People forget about Michael Turner.

I'm actually looking forward to the prospect of TO getting decapitated by Baltimore defenders. The Dallas offense will have a VERY difficult time with that defense.

Bears got a shot. I really don't think Dallas can win that game.

I had to re-read Ryan's post to be sure, but he wants us to re-sign Marc Columbo? I know the the organization was very high on his ability before that knee injury 5-6 years ago, but paying to get him back seems rediculous to me. Playing on a Dallas team with nothing but offensive playmakers around him has made him look a lot better than he actually is.

More importantly, the starting O Line needs to get younger. I've watched Beekman progress quite nicely this year once he was given a chance in place of Metcalf. He still needs to develop better pass protection, but his run blocking, especially in his ability to pull is getting to be quite good. He might still project to our center of the future. I think Tait will put in one more solid year at RT, so we'll have time to either develop Balogh or a draft pick next spring.

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